Do we have a CBA strife thread yet?

[Upstater]

F this league.


F them all

You know something is wrong in the world when a Sabres fan (me) and a Flyers fan (you ) agree.

I am just plain tired of it all.

 

[PhillyPhaithful48]

You know something is wrong in the world when a Sabres fan (me) and a Flyers fan (you ) agree.

I am just plain tired of it all.

I just don't get how grown men can be so childish.


Then again, the United States is going through the same exact thing with the dems and GOP with the "fiscal cliff" approaching.

 

[Jimmy_the_Tongue]

Getting ready for the Winter Classic! Got my beer on ice...got the steaks seasoned...picking up some gas for the grill. Hell yeah! (picture Clark Griswold arriving at Wally World)...

 

[forty_three]

Sorry folks, park's closed. Moose out front shoulda told ya.

 

[Jimmy_the_Tongue]

i just checked out my profile and saw that my join date was 4/20...isn't that national cannabis day? maybe I was high..I don't know.

 

[Jimmy_the_Tongue]

Sorry folks, park's closed. Moose out front shoulda told ya.

that's what i'm talking about!

 

[forty_three]

This is a life-sized rod hockey game at the Ufa arena. All of the players look... familiar.

Much more expressive, but familiar.

 

[puckhead]

i just checked out my profile and saw that my join date was 4/20...isn't that national cannabis day? maybe I was high..I don't know.

~ internet high-five ~

 

[flyersfan4706]

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@Real_ESPNLeBrun: An NHL player says the NHL made a new offer to the NHLPA on Thursday, one which moved on contract term limits, buyouts and variance...

 

[flyersfan4706]

@TSNBobMcKenzie: In the interest of accuracy, @Eklund was first to report the NHL offer to NHLPA.

 

[dash]

Sounds like Bill Daly might have fallen off of the "hill will we die on". TSN reporting some of the details (including a compliance buy-out).

 

[flyersfan4706]

Sounds like Bill Daly might have fallen off of the "hill will we die on". TSN reporting some of the details (including a compliance buy-out).

Contract limits up to 6 years, 7 if you're re-signing

 

[jstewismybastardson]

Sounds like Bill Daly might have fallen off of the "hill will we die on". TSN reporting some of the details (including a compliance buy-out).

or maybe he died?

 

[evolver115]

This might be their final offer with a hope of salvaging a 48 game season.

 

[banditshcky11]

As has been reported, the terms are:
" Term limit on player contracts moves to six years from the five years NHL asked in previous offers (seven years if you're re-signing your own player).

" Year-to-year salary variance moves from 5 percent (NHL's previous offers) to 10 percent.

" Each team will be allowed one compliance buyout before the 2013-14 season that will not count against the salary cap but will count against the players' share.

" The Make Whole provision stays at $300 million.


The only thing I could see the NHLPA asking for now is that if a 35+ player suffers a career ending injury that their cap hit is removed. This is because some teams can't afford to have a hurt player on the roster and really replace them so in the long run it costs other players jobs. That said I'm hoping that this is the beginning of the end now and I can watch some NHL hockey soon because as much as I'd like to pretend I don't miss it the WJC is making me realize I'm lying to myself.

 

[mattola]

As has been reported, the terms are:
" Term limit on player contracts moves to six years from the five years NHL asked in previous offers (seven years if you're re-signing your own player).

" Year-to-year salary variance moves from 5 percent (NHL's previous offers) to 10 percent.

" Each team will be allowed one compliance buyout before the 2013-14 season that will not count against the salary cap but will count against the players' share.

" The Make Whole provision stays at $300 million.


The only thing I could see the FLYERS asking for now is that if a 35+ player suffers a career ending injury that their cap hit is removed. This is because some teams can't afford to have a pronger on the roster and really replace them so in the long run it costs other players jobs. That said I'm hoping that this is the beginning of the end now and I can watch some NHL hockey soon because as much as I'd like to pretend I don't miss it the WJC is making me realize I'm lying to myself.

 

[dash]

Also it is pretty clear that the league doesn't want to go down the road of disclaimer of interest/decertification. Let's hope reason will prevail and we'll see a new CBA signed.

 

[banditshcky11]

Funny thing is if the rules stay in effect where Pronger could be placed on ltir I see no problem with the Flyers paying him(I meant financhially afford not being inable to replce them). However can u see Jacobs wanting to continue to pay Savard with his stance on other issues? What about PHO is Doan goes down already being a struggling team? The other side to the issue is that if the big market teams have their $ tied up elsewhere going to a lower cap hit a lot of FA's will have to settle for lesser offers due to lack of bidding and I can't see the NHLPA liking that one bit. I'm just trying to point out an issue I think Fehr could make a mountain of is all.

 

[mattola]

Funny thing is if the rules stay in effect where Pronger could be placed on ltir I see no problem with the Flyers paying him(I meant financhially afford not being inable to replce them). However can u see Jacobs wanting to continue to pay Savard with his stance on other issues? What about PHO is Doan goes down already being a struggling team? The other side to the issue is that if the big market teams have their $ tied up elsewhere going to a lower cap hit a lot of FA's will have to settle for lesser offers due to lack of bidding and I can't see the NHLPA liking that one bit. I'm just trying to point out an issue I think Fehr could make a mountain of is all.

I was just being sassy

I agree. But if they dont allow it and the 35+ stays on the hit will they keep him on LTIR forever? he wont be allowed to retire and get into the hall of fame which we all know he will. or will it go to the end of his deal only?

 

[banditshcky11]

I was just being sassy

I agree. But if they dont allow it and the 35+ stays on the hit will they keep him on LTIR forever? he wont be allowed to retire and get into the hall of fame which we all know he will. or will it go to the end of his deal only?

I'm not sure if this is the same now but I know with Mike Rathje who the Flyers signed to a 5 year deal(played parts of 1 or 2 seasons(?) & spent the rest on ltir) that he could only retire once his contract was up. I'm not sure if there were any changes to the policy during these talks.

I'm also wondering what the rules are on buying a player out and then re-signing him(I could see this being the new method of cap circumvention), anyone know???

Also anyone know if they ever decided to calculate cap hit by years left and not years total? I know this was discussed as a method to get teams cap compliant.