Detroit Tigers Ongoing 2016 Thread

[Iffster]

Burf....I bet I can get a ''dislike'' before you do!!!! Watch.....

Hernan Perez

 

[Iffster]

Hopefully Sanchez' arm feels good tomorrow. I'd like to see him make 2 or 3 more decent starts before I feel evenly remotely secure in declaring him as healthy and the #3 starter.

 

[Howie115]

Hopefully Sanchez' arm feels good tomorrow. I'd like to see him make 2 or 3 more decent starts before I feel evenly remotely secure in declaring him as healthy and the #3 starter.

I think Ausmus would agree with you. Even if pain-free, Sanchez won't have the stamina built up yet to start a game that opening week. I doubt he gets more than 5 innings in either of his remaining 2 spring starts. Fortunately, the Tigers only play 2 in Miami, then have an off-day Thursday. Works out well.

 

[MiamiVice]

I think Ausmus would agree with you. Even if pain-free, Sanchez won't have the stamina built up yet to start a game that opening week. I doubt he gets more than 5 innings in either of his remaining 2 spring starts. Fortunately, the Tigers only play 2 in Miami, then have an off-day Thursday. Works out well.

going to both miami games... its going to be glorious. will post pics.

 

[Iffster]

MLB.com listed their Top 10 Outfields. The Tigers did not make it. The person creating it leaned heavily on defense stats and dWAR. Admittedly, none of the Tiger outfielders showed up well in either category. Upton and JD Martinez both had overall good WAR numbers but defense brought them down in this listing....although, looking at some of their other defensive numbers on fangraphs, JD and Upton seemed to appear near the middle of most lists. Only Gose seemed to get a lot of low rankings. IMO, it looks like whatever defensive shortcomings they may or may not have, their offense is capable of making up for it.

PS.....The World Champion Royals were ranked number 3. (Dyson was included, although injured)

 

[Howie115]

Upton and JD Martinez both had overall good WAR numbers but defense brought them down in this listing....although, looking at some of their other defensive numbers on fangraphs, JD and Upton seemed to appear near the middle of most lists. Only Gose seemed to get a lot of low rankings. IMO, it looks like whatever defensive shortcomings they may or may not have, their offense is capable of making up for it.

J.D. Martinez had very good defensive metrics last year and was a Gold Glove finalist in RF. His fielding pct. (.993) was 1st in the AL for RFs, UZR (7.7) was 2nd, and his 15 outfield assists were second among all AL outfielders. Perhaps Gose brought the unit down (he covers a lot of ground, but is otherwise no better than average), but JD-Mart should not have.

 

[Iffster]

J.D. Martinez had very good defensive metrics last year and was a Gold Glove finalist in RF. His fielding pct. (.993) was 1st in the AL for RFs, UZR (7.7) was 2nd, and his 15 outfield assists were second among all AL outfielders. Perhaps Gose brought the unit down (he covers a lot of ground, but is otherwise no better than average), but JD-Mart should not have.

That is what I could not understand in this guys(s) rating system. JD had high numbers in some metrics, some mediocre. But Upton seemed to hold middle ground in most of them. I suppose in their view, Gose's poor numbers, cancelled out whatever positives JD had, and left an, overall, average outfield. But like I said, offensively they are a lot better than a few of the teams that were rated in the top ten in that list.

However.....that Royals' outfield IS star-studded. When Dyson is back, I doubt ANY ball hit in the air to the outfield will touch grass. Awesome!

 

[themuzzer]

4 out of 5 dentist recommend Trident.....Nice stat, but it doesn't past my taste test.

 

[Iffster]

Vice......you crack me up. I swear your shoes must be wet with piss 100% of the time. WD-40 gets the brown off, btw. LOL

50/50. Sanchez back....Norris hurt. Parnell hurt his chances at getting a bullpen spot today, so did Rondon. If Alex Wilson can't go, maybe a trade or waiver claim? Where IS Joba, by the way?

 

[Iffster]

4 out of 5 dentist recommend Trident.....Nice stat, but it doesn't past my taste test.

I understand. Some rough carpenters still just prefer a regular old claw hammer....nail guns hurt their ears and the cords are a pain. And besides, they spent twenty years learning to drive a 4" nail with two hits.

 

[Voltaire26]

Vice......you crack me up. I swear your shoes must be wet with piss 100% of the time. WD-40 gets the brown off, btw. LOL

50/50. Sanchez back....Norris hurt. Parnell hurt his chances at getting a bullpen spot today, so did Rondon. If Alex Wilson can't go, maybe a trade or waiver claim? Where IS Joba, by the way?

No dislikes and no answers back ... I think @MiamiVice is no longer taking the bait.

 

[MiamiVice]

No dislikes and no answers back ... I think @MiamiVice is no longer taking the bait.

i will chime in when a decent tigers discussion starts.

 

[Iffster]

i will chime in when a decent tigers discussion starts.

Insults everyone! Got to love it. LOL

Viceroy is so important, he only condescends to deal with us lower-level types when it reaches HIS level of expertise.

 

[broncosmitty]

What the hell happened to Norris today?

 

[MiamiVice]

What the hell happened to Norris today?

Daniel Norris’ back injury puts new spin on Tigers rotation

 

[broncosmitty]

I've assumed it was going to be Greene from the start anyway.

But hard for me agree with Ausmus. 3 runs in a third of an inning doesn't seem like an outing where "He was good" is a response.

 

[MiamiVice]

I've assumed it was going to be Greene from the start anyway.

But hard for me agree with Ausmus. 3 runs in a third of an inning doesn't seem like an outing where "He was good" is a response.

i would rather they bring norris along slow and have his innings for later in the year than have them trying to pussy foot around innings limits anyways. 5th starters don't make or break seasons.

 

[broncosmitty]

i would rather they bring norris along slow and have his innings for later in the year than have them trying to pussy foot around innings limits anyways. 5th starters don't make or break seasons.

I don't think his spot is the 5th one. Pelfry....

But I agree on bringing him along slowly. They should shut him down for a couple weeks really. If he's not going to be coming north, which it seems likely he isn't, no need to push.

 

[MiamiVice]

I don't think his spot is the 5th one. Pelfry....

But I agree on bringing him along slowly. They should shut him down for a couple weeks really. If he's not going to be coming north, which it seems likely he isn't, no need to push.

technically he probably was the 4th starter and pelfrey the 5th... or they wanted it as such.. but they were going to slot him in 5th so they could skip starts when a 5th starter wasn't needed.

 

[broncosmitty]

technically he probably was the 4th starter and pelfrey the 5th... or they wanted it as such.. but they were going to slot him in 5th so they could skip starts when a 5th starter wasn't needed.

Either way.

Tough to dismiss 40% of the starting rotation as not make or break.