Derek Carr...............

[PDay8810]

@Rowdy and @fastforward have this one right.

Two posters... I'm glad post their football opinions here, You & Stymietee.

 

[VikingFan2k2]

It would be better to give Cousins a defense instead of wishing you had the Jets QBs.

I didn't wish we had the Jets QBs, I just wish we hadn't wasted 5 years hoping Cousins could carry us to the top.

 

[jarntt]

I admit I giggled when I read this headline

Jets pitch Derek Carr on being ‘first-ballot Hall of Famer’ in New York

The Jets aren’t alone is courting Carr, but they did offer a grandiose vision of what the 31-year-old could accomplish in New York.

nypost.com

 

[PDay8810]

How in the hell can the cap needy Saints sign him?

I can't imagine that a team like the Jets can't offer him more.

Now we both know.

 

[thedddd]

And I am assuming Winston will be cut after June 1st.

Correct me if I am wrong but right now his dead money is a lot higher prior to that date?

New Orleans Saints Salary Cap | Over the Cap

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[fastforward]

And I am assuming Winston will be cut after June 1st.

Correct me if I am wrong but right now his dead money is a lot higher prior to that date?

New Orleans Saints Salary Cap | Over the Cap

New Orleans Saints salary cap, contracts, bonus money, dead money, and cap savings for every player

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It's a marginal decision. The Saints have to account for $2.8M of dead money relating to Winston in 2023 regardless of what they do. There's $8.4M in dead money that they're scheduled to account for in 2024. If they cut him before June 1 they'll remove Winston's $12.8M salary from the 2023 cap but the $8.4M will have to be accounted for in 2023 rather than 2024. That would give them $4.4M more cap space in the free agency period before June 1. Alternatively they could designate Winston as a post June 1 cut which would mean they had to keep the $12.8M salary on the books until June 1, (hurting their cap space in the free agency period). However after June 1 they wouldn't have to account for either the $12.8M or the $8.4M dead money in 2023. This would give them more 2023 cap space to sign their Draft class and make in-season moves. They'd still have to account for the dead money in 2024. My guess is that they designate him as a post June 1 cut to help with the 2023 season, but it's marginal.

 

[thedddd]

It's a marginal decision. The Saints have to account for $2.8M of dead money relating to Winston in 2023 regardless of what they do. There's $8.4M in dead money that they're scheduled to account for in 2024. If they cut him before June 1 they'll remove Winston's $12.8M salary from the 2023 cap but the $8.4M will have to be accounted for in 2023 rather than 2024. That would give them $4.4M more cap space in the free agency period before June 1. Alternatively they could designate Winston as a post June 1 cut which would mean they had to keep the $12.8M salary on the books until June 1, (hurting their cap space in the free agency period). However after June 1 they wouldn't have to account for either the $12.8M or the $8.4M dead money in 2023. This would give them more 2023 cap space to sign their Draft class and make in-season moves. They'd still have to account for the dead money in 2024. My guess is that they designate him as a post June 1 cut to help with the 2023 season, but it's marginal.

Thanks for the explanation!