Dario Saric coming to the Sixers

[flyerhawk]

Because no one is offering shit because they want to rip us off.

Sounds like the Sixers will be moving at least one of the big men..

Bryan Colangelo Admits 76ers Will Likely Trade Okafor, Noel Or Embiid - RealGM Wiretap

Some possible trade partners.

Who Wants Jahlil Okafor? — The Ringer

IMO, unless the Celtics are willing to offer more than this article suggests, I would think the Wolves would be the best trade partner.

 

[tlance]

If you don't understand about spacing and how defensive rotation works, then no point in arguing this further. Good luck with trotting that lineup out there.

Sorry, been busy the last few days.

You can never have too much shooting, but if you don't have enough, you are completely screwed offensively. Even the most dynamic offensive players are easy to guard if the D can help without consequence. If guys like Okafor and Embiid are spotting up within 15 feet, is is really easy for defenses to help and recover.

This is precisely why teams like Golden State and Cleveland are so difficult to defend. When you have multiple options the defense has to account for at and beyond the three point line, the defense has to choose between helping or staying on shooters. They can't do both.

Simmons would find nothing but 6-10 bodies every time he got to the paint if Saric were your 3.

 

[tlance]

No one is hitting 60% of their twos unless you're within a couple feet of the basket aka layups. Beyond those couple of feet, league average is around 40%. League average for 3s is around 35%. So using your crude example, 10 three point shots would produce roughly 10 pts, 10 two point shots (non layups) would produce around 8pts. That's a big difference that adds up big over the course of a game. Not only that, those 3s open up the space to get layups.

Also, the long rebound thing isn't true. There was a paper recently at the Sloan conference that showed pretty much all jump shots outside of the paint tend to land in the same general distance.

Missed Layups and dunks often result in a layup on the other end because it is much harder for defense to transition back if a guard gets caught in the offensive paint. Missed jump shots usually allow defense to get back quite easily.

 

[eaglesnut]

Simmons would find nothing but 6-10 bodies every time he got to the paint if Saric were your 3.

And if Saric can shoot?

 

[tlance]

And if Saric can shoot?

Then spacing becomes a bit better, but still not good. You already have 3 non shooters with your big men and Simmons. Also, like others have mentioned, I can't imagine Saric being able to defend the 3.

 

[CitySushi]

Then spacing becomes a bit better, but still not good. You already have 3 non shooters with your big men and Simmons. Also, like others have mentioned, I can't imagine Saric being able to defend the 3.

Could you imagine what sort of havoc running teams would cause that 76ers lineup. They would give up 40 points a game on fast break points.

 

[tlance]

Could you imagine what sort of havoc running teams would cause that 76ers lineup. They would give up 40 points a game on fast break points.

I can't imagine that group being able to defend the half court. Transition would certainly be awful.

 

[eaglesnut]

Could you imagine what sort of havoc running teams would cause that 76ers lineup. They would give up 40 points a game on fast break points.

And score just as many. Simmons may be one of the best fast break starters in the NBA. Already. That's how good he is at that particular skill. Teams aren't going to want to run with the young Sixers.

 

[CitySushi]

And score just as many. Simmons may be one of the best fast break starters in the NBA. Already. That's how good he is at that particular skill. Teams aren't going to want to run with the young Sixers.

You don't think teams will want to run on a team with 4 guys on the court of 6'10" plus? Every team will literally try to beat you guys up the court and will do so successfully if you trot out a front court of Okafor, Embiid and Saric.

Every team is going to want to run on the 76ers if you have that "big" lineup out there.

Also how will the 76ers score points on the fastbreak? Who's going to run with Simmons? Is he just going to do it all by himself? And he's going to single handedly beat a running team down the court every time?

If you got into a running game, Okafor, Embiid and Saric would have to be conditioned to running that amount otherwise they'll be asking for a sub 4 minutes into the game. This isn't NBA 2K where you can turn the stamina off. There are multiple facets to a game.