Dak Prescott

[UK Cowboy]

Too me, that 8-8 was more on the coaching and defense last year. However, total offense is overrated. When you are behind in so many games, you tend to pile up empty yards in trying to come back. Defenses give you the underneath and let up with big leads.

My thing isn't whether or not Dan is a good player. It's about is he worth $35-40 million per year. A lot of teams pay their QB because he is the next guy up and a lot of teams live to regret it(Rams, Goff).
My question is, replace Dak with other QB's in the league and how many could have gone 8-8 with the same defense and Head Coach. Its a pretty large list IMO.

 

[Manster7588]

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I don't know how you can say " Super Bowl quality "without getting there lol. He is not Brady yet lol. You really go overboard with Dak sometimes.

Because the TEAM hasn't gotten there. You cant put all blame on the QB.

Trent Dilfer won a SB, and I wouldn't say he had the talent to lead a team to a SB, but he had a TEAM good enough to win it.

 

[Manster7588]

My thing isn't whether or not Dan is a good player. It's about is he worth $35-40 million per year. A lot of teams pay their QB because he is the next guy up and a lot of teams live to regret it(Rams, Goff).
My question is, replace Dak with other QB's in the league and how many could have gone 8-8 with the same defense and Head Coach. Its a pretty large list IMO.

Had Dallas selected Cook in 16 and he put up the same numbers as Dak has, he would've had that 35M offer. Maybe he would have signed for the 5 years.
Every QB who resets the market is overpaid, but thats the system.

 

[UK Cowboy]

Had Dallas selected Cook in 16 and he put up the same numbers as Dak has, he would've had that 35M offer. Maybe he would have signed for the 5 years.
Every QB who resets the market is overpaid, but thats the system.

So what is the deal? You think this is about race? Just asking.
I think it's fair to believe he is a good QB but still draw a line at how much they are willing to pay him and dictate terms. The Cowboys seem to love the guy, but have still drawn that line

 

[Manster7588]

So what is the deal? You think this is about race? Just asking.
I think it's fair to believe he is a good QB but still draw a line at how much they are willing to pay him and dictate terms. The Cowboys seem to love the guy, but have still drawn that line

No I don't think it's about race, I just used Cook because word is he was the target, until he was taken. Point is the system dictates salaries, you cant low ball a guy your trying to say is your starter.

I wish Dak would've signed for 25M but thats completely unrealistic.

I'm not blaming Dak or the team for not getting this hammered out, as they both stood by their guns.

Now if the rumor is true that Dak was going to sign before the clock hit zero, I could blame both sides for not getting together a few hours before that.

 

[Earl Stevens]

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I don't know how you can say " Super Bowl quality "without getting there lol. He is not Brady yet lol. You really go overboard with Dak sometimes.

How can I say it? I just did. He has Super Bowl quality leadership. I didn't say he was Brady. I said he's a leader of men, "like Brady." I'm so sick of people on this board twisting words and accusing me of being a Dak homer. All it takes is basic reading comprehension. Just because I support our starting quarterback and think he displays great leadership doesn't mean I go overboard. I have criticized Dak plenty of times. I just don't choose to pile on with Dak criticism every time the Cowboys lose a damn football game. That's shit fickle people do.

 

[Earl Stevens]

Too me, that 8-8 was more on the coaching and defense last year. However, total offense is overrated. When you are behind in so many games, you tend to pile up empty yards in trying to come back. Defenses give you the underneath and let up with big leads.

The Cowboys were #2 in offensive DVOA. They led the NFL in yards per play. It wasn't empty stats. They had a FG kicker miss 10 FGs, a defense that collapsed after losing LVE, and a head coach who played prevent offense with the best offense in the NFL.

 

[PDay8810]

I'm borderline Dak homer and may fall in after this coming season.

 

[Dak_&_Zeke]

Two more weeks guys I cannot wait. The days seems like they just flying by.

 

[tomodach10]

How can I say it? I just did. He has Super Bowl quality leadership. I didn't say he was Brady. I said he's a leader of men, "like Brady." I'm so sick of people on this board twisting words and accusing me of being a Dak homer. All it takes is basic reading comprehension. Just because I support our starting quarterback and think he displays great leadership doesn't mean I go overboard. I have criticized Dak plenty of times. I just don't choose to pile on with Dak criticism every time the Cowboys lose a damn football game. That's shit fickle people do.

Right now 24 years and counting. Dak has been one of the few bright spots. I think he is a great character guy and we can win with him. I dont see many people blaming dak for loses. However, you seem to be over defensive of any criticism of Dak.

 

[Manster7588]

Right now 24 years and counting. Dak has been one of the few bright spots. I think he is a great character guy and we can win with him. I dont see many people blaming dak for loses. However, you seem to be over defensive of any criticism of Dak.

You can't put 10 years ago on the current players much less 24 years ago. This team is very good, if you can't see a true contender you have blinders on.

You have to remember there are 32 teams trying to win it all, its not that Cowboys failed on their own, other teams were just better.

 

[tomodach10]

You can't put 10 years ago on the current players much less 24 years ago. This team is very good, if you can't see a true contender you have blinders on.

You have to remember there are 32 teams trying to win it all, its not that Cowboys failed on their own, other teams were just better.

Who is putting 24 years on Dak or the current players Mr. BLUE LIVES?? WHERE THE HELL was I talking about this team being a contender or not? I SAID, We can win with DAK !!! Take off your Blue glasses. You can't see.

 

[GNG]

It has been 24 years and counting. I hope dak is our QB for a long time. I am just not as high on him as you are.

We have no choice as it looks like he'll be here under a long term contract.

 

[Manster7588]

Who is putting 24 years on Dak or the current players Mr. BLUE LIVES?? WHERE THE HELL was I talking about this team being a contender or not? I SAID, We can win with DAK !!! Take off your Blue glasses. You can't see.

You said "24 years and counting". I don't give a rats ass about the past when grading this team. Hell, 5 years ago really doesn't mean shit as most of these guys weren't part of the team then.

 

[Sir Robin Of Camelot]

Another reminder...

The price of a starting QB in the NFL never goes down.

Never.

 

[Manster7588]

Another reminder...

The price of a starting QB in the NFL never goes down.

Never.

There's a solid concrete wall in Dallas hopefully Dallas and Dak can figure out a fair way get over it

 

[PDay8810]

well....Watson insisted on 4 years in order to get another contract when TV & gambling money effect the expected large cap jump while Jerry stood firm on 5 years for Prescott.

 

[Sir Robin Of Camelot]

well....Watson insisted on 4 years in order to get another contract when TV & gambling money effect the expected large cap jump while Jerry stood firm on 5 years for Prescott.

And I’m more and more convinced that Dak will not sign a 5 unless Jerry money-whips him. And Jerry isn’t going to do that.

 

[PDay8810]

And I’m more and more convinced that Dak will not sign a 5 unless Jerry money-whips him. And Jerry isn’t going to do that.

jerry has blown this multiple times to the point where it looks like he'll either money whip him or allows another team too.
Jerry biggest mistake was the same as many Dallas fans....He thought Elliott was the straw that stirred the drink. In a QB driven league no less. Lucky for him, he got that Gold jacket for making a shit load of money for the NFL cause he remains one of the worst football GM's ever.

 

[jarntt]

And I’m more and more convinced that Dak will not sign a 5 unless Jerry money-whips him. And Jerry isn’t going to do that.

The question now seems to be will Dak even prefer a 4 year deal next year or will it drop to 3? I would love to know what that final conversation was that happened at the 11th hour and with not enough time to push it over the finish line.

On your point, I never believed for a second Dak wouldn't sign a 5 year deal if the numbers were right so yeah if Jerry offers enough he'll sign for whatever # of years. 4 vs 5 was always about money so if the 5 money was good enough he would have taken it in a second. I still think the tag this year was best case scenario, was never bothered by it and was kind of hoping for it. My only concern was if it left bad blood and Dak didn't let that happen. Where other QBs sit out or sulk, Dak built a field at his house to be even more around the team and get even more practice in.