Dak Prescott

[PDay8810]

everything points to July with a July 15th deadline

 

[Manster7588]

Looks like Dak is open to a 5 year deal. A little pricey but it's an option.

As the latest rumor goes, unsigned QB Dak Prescott is "asking for somewhere like north of $45 million in that fifth year'' in order to finalize the long-term deal being offered him by the Dallas Cowboys.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.si...escott-wants-45m-for-5th-year-what-that-means


I know it's a business, but Dak has to stop with his "It's not the money", if reports are right It's ALL about the money.

 

[PDay8810]

"The Cowboys want five years at $35 mil per, and Dak will do five years at $37 mil per. That gap seems solvable."

This I agree with....now all Dallas has to factor is they paid Dak 4M over the first 4 years
189M over 9 years is 21 per.

sure....it's the money and I don't see where Dak is the bad guy here. What I don't understand why it's business for Elliott & Dlaw but Dak is being greedy. NFL QB is still the most valued position in pro sports. The ball remains in Jerry's court, he created this issue and it's up to him to solve it.

 

[Manster7588]

"The Cowboys want five years at $35 mil per, and Dak will do five years at $37 mil per. That gap seems solvable."

This I agree with....now all Dallas has to factor is they paid Dak 4M over the first 4 years
189M over 9 years is 21 per.

sure....it's the money and I don't see where Dak is the bad guy here. What I don't understand why it's business for Elliott & Dlaw but Dak is being greedy. NFL QB is still the most valued position in pro sports. The ball remains in Jerry's court, he created this issue and it's up to him to solve it.

I didn't want them caving into Elliott or Law either.

 

[PDay8810]

I didn't want them caving into Elliott or Law either.

I don't recall you calling them greedy. Dak deserves everything he can get, 4M over the first 4 years says as much. You don't draw a line in the sand with your QB is my point.

maybe it turns out to be 180M over 5 years.(36 per) Jerry has said deadlines make deals, that's July 15. Time will tell

 

[Manster7588]

I don't recall you calling them greedy. Dak deserves everything he can get, 4M over the first 4 years says as much. You don't draw a line in the sand with your QB is my point.

maybe it turns out to be 180M over 5 years.(36 per) Jerry has said deadlines make deals, that's July 15. Time will tell

I don't recall Elliott or DLaw say it's not about the money.

 

[UK Cowboy]

I don't blame Dak for asking for $37 million per. I just wouldn't give it to him

 

[Schmoopy1000]

"The Cowboys want five years at $35 mil per, and Dak will do five years at $37 mil per. That gap seems solvable."

This I agree with....now all Dallas has to factor is they paid Dak 4M over the first 4 years
189M over 9 years is 21 per.

sure....it's the money and I don't see where Dak is the bad guy here. What I don't understand why it's business for Elliott & Dlaw but Dak is being greedy. NFL QB is still the most valued position in pro sports. The ball remains in Jerry's court, he created this issue and it's up to him to solve it.

a couple of things.
I thought they were saying Dak wanted 37 over 4 years. In which case GTFO with that shit.

Another thing. those two guys combined would equal Daks money. QB money is by far the highest percentage of the cap
Also both signed long term contracts to help the cap. (spreading Signing bonuses etc....)
Zekes contract realistically isnt gonna go to 2026. So his AAV is just for show.


Now we honestly dont know the particulars, but most players will take higher bonuses on a longer contract or lesser bonuses on a shorter contract. If Dak is asking for the best of both worlds it is all about the money.

While you mention the 2 mil gap (if true) is solvable. It is also solvable from the other side as well. So it would still be all about the money. As far as Zeke & D-LAW (& any contract negotiations bar a couple) it is always about the money. Although when you look at Zekes contract his might have been more about ego/pride of being considered highest paid RB. So many of those years is too easy to cut bait if need be.

I truly believe they are battling over 4 vs. 5 years. Now as a fan I wouldnt mind the Cowboys giving in & giving him his 4 year deal (within reason) but if I am the Cowboys & that is where I drew my line. That line has to stay. IMO.

Jerry has said deadlines make deals, that's July 15.

This to me is what will happen right here.

 

[PDay8810]

I've said this many times over the years. Many of you guys worry about the money and I remain worried about a championship. Jerry has caved with every player when it became deadline time and now is not the time to draw a line in the sand with you QB, your proven team leader. That is beyond stupid to me. What are we talking about if the reports are true...a year and 2M bucks, really?? Now Jerry & Stephen want both and wanna play hard ball? Fuck, Jerry & Stephen had 4 years where their QB made shit and they couldn't put a team & coaching staff around him to win. Hell, Jerry has had 25 years and he couldn't put a team together to win more than 2 playoff games. The only consistent shit here is the Joines's and they haven proven time & time again to fuck this shit up. BUT you guys wanna side with these guys and worry about the money?? NOT ME....pay they guy 35M for 4 years or play the guy 37M for 5 years and get the hell outta the way. Let the coaches coach and the players play and stop the fucking grand standing! There are a few of us here for a championship. That is not Dalton nor some other clown standing in front of a 7-11 looking for a job.

 

[jarntt]

Breaking Down Dak Prescott’s Contract Situation; What's the Delay? ✭

Per the article Dallas is is the 33 to 35M range with 5 years minimum. Granted it's not my signature but I see that as more than fair.

Then it say Dak want's only four years (Yes we already know this), but it also says Dak wants between 35 and 37M per.

If Daks demands are true I say let him play on the FT and look for his replacement in the next draft.

If true it does make Dak look greedy.

Who knows if this is 100% true and I didn't read the article, but going off of your summary I'd say that is exactly what most have been thinking all along - that there is still more to work out The idea that it is 4 vs 5 years and nothing else was never believable to me.

 

[GNG]

I know it's a business, but Dak has to stop with his "It's not the money", if reports are right It's ALL about the money.

These players say it's a lack of respect but it is usually all about the money.

 

[GNG]

Dallas should not give Dak a 33 to 35 million contract. They have Dalton to fall back on.

 

[UK Cowboy]

Who knows if this is 100% true and I didn't read the article, but going off of your summary I'd say that is exactly what most have been thinking all along - that there is still more to work out The idea that it is 4 vs 5 years and nothing else was never believable to me.

Everything Im reading has the hold up at $175 vs $185 for a 5 year deal. I understand what some folks are saying about the going rate for a QB, but $35 per would be the break point for me. That's more than Goff, more than Wentz, it's Russell Wilson money, and as much as I love him, he ain't RW. If he wants $37 he can be franchised and traded IMO. I'm sure Dalton would be happy to jump from $3 million to $15 million next year and we would have 2 #1 picks and $22 million in cap space per year to add to the team. Fine too

 

[jarntt]

Looks like Dak is open to a 5 year deal. A little pricey but it's an option.

As the latest rumor goes, unsigned QB Dak Prescott is "asking for somewhere like north of $45 million in that fifth year'' in order to finalize the long-term deal being offered him by the Dallas Cowboys.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.si...escott-wants-45m-for-5th-year-what-that-means


I know it's a business, but Dak has to stop with his "It's not the money", if reports are right It's ALL about the money.

Absolutely he is. It was always a bargaining chip and not much else. Dak has been about the money from day one of these negotiations and going for every penny he can get just like almost every other player. I have no problem with him doing that because that's the game and I would do the same thing, I just wouldn't cave to him either. Wilson didn't likely get what he wanted and nor did Wentz or Goff The team needs to decide what is reasonable or more so what is the most they will be willing to give him and then just like every negotiation, neither side will get what they want or there is no deal. His ass ain't turning down a contract he won't likely get from anyone else to sit out the year and probably never make up. My concern is and has been that he signs the tag and shows up right before week 1 (or sits out) unprepared to run a new offense.

I just think it's weird how some on social media pretend he isn't going for every penny or that we should just give him what he asks for. Of course they are the ones saying that in every negotiation. I also don't get all the drama about how this whole thing ends with no Dak. Better QB have left teams or retired and teams keep playing. The Cowboys will take a hit but with $35M in cap space they can figure out a way to be a similar team to what they would be with Dak.

 

[Manster7588]

Absolutely he is. It was always a bargaining chip and not much else. Dak has been about the money from day one of these negotiations and going for every penny he can get just like almost every other player. I have no problem with him doing that because that's the game and I would do the same thing, I just wouldn't cave to him either. Wilson didn't likely get what he wanted and nor did Wentz or Goff The team needs to decide what is reasonable or more so what is the most they will be willing to give him and then just like every negotiation, neither side will get what they want or there is no deal. His ass ain't turning down a contract he won't likely get from anyone else to sit out the year and probably never make up. My concern is and has been that he signs the tag and shows up right before week 1 (or sits out) unprepared to run a new offense.

I just think it's weird how some on social media pretend he isn't going for every penny or that we should just give him what he asks for. Of course they are the ones saying that in every negotiation. I also don't get all the drama about how this whole thing ends with no Dak. Better QB have left teams or retired and teams keep playing. The Cowboys will take a hit but with $35M in cap space they can figure out a way to be a similar team to what they would be with Dak.

I have no problem with players getting what they can as it takes the team to agree to the amount, my issue is his early BS about it's not about money.
By reports Dallas looks to make Dak the 2nd highest paid player, to Wilson, and quite honestly Wilson is the better QB IMO.

Damn, I hate to harp on what it's, but Dallas should have inked him last year to the 27M rumors out there.

 

[jarntt]

Everything Im reading has the hold up at $175 vs $185 for a 5 year deal. I understand what some folks are saying about the going rate for a QB, but $35 per would be the break point for me. That's more than Goff, more than Wentz, it's Russell Wilson money, and as much as I love him, he ain't RW. If he wants $37 he can be franchised and traded IMO. I'm sure Dalton would be happy to jump from $3 million to $15 million next year and we would have 2 #1 picks and $22 million in cap space per year to add to the team. Fine too

It's funny how the story is getting louder that it wasn't really about the 4 vs 5 years in the first place. I don't know what number I stop at personally. I'm not even sure I go $35M per to be honest depending on the structure. He is good but he isn't worthy of that deal from a talent perspective alone so it comes down to the next man up theory and whether or not the next man up who is a top 12 or 15 QB is deserving of being paid more than any other player or if the next man up theory only applies to the top 5 or so players. QB salaries lately say it goes deeper than that and maybe that covers Dak.

I don't worry about a million or two either way so I can see going up to $35M or maybe even $40M depending on the guaranteed money. The devil is always in the details on these deals as Cooper's contract proves. I'll give him a 6th year at $42M to make him the highest paid player in the league if that is what his ego needs, I just won't pay him that year. To me the deal is using a starting point of Wentz's and Goff's deals plus a boost for being a year later. But, the key is that the team gives an offer they will do and is ready to move on if he doesn't want it. Don't screw yourself by low balling him and don't screw yourself by letting him kill your cap. Teams are 53 men deep, not 1 but QB is the most important position.

 

[UK Cowboy]

It's funny how the story is getting louder that it wasn't really about the 4 vs 5 years in the first place. I don't know what number I stop at personally. I'm not even sure I go $35M per to be honest depending on the structure. He is good but he isn't worthy of that deal from a talent perspective alone so it comes down to the next man up theory and whether or not the next man up who is a top 12 or 15 QB is deserving of being paid more than any other player or if the next man up theory only applies to the top 5 or so players. QB salaries lately say it goes deeper than that and maybe that covers Dak.

I don't worry about a million or two either way so I can see going up to $35M or maybe even $40M depending on the guaranteed money. The devil is always in the details on these deals as Cooper's contract proves. I'll give him a 6th year at $42M to make him the highest paid player in the league if that is what his ego needs, I just won't pay him that year. To me the deal is using a starting point of Wentz's and Goff's deals plus a boost for being a year later. But, the key is that the team gives an offer they will do and is ready to move on if he doesn't want it. Don't screw yourself by low balling him and don't screw yourself by letting him kill your cap. Teams are 53 men deep, not 1 but QB is the most important position.

I understand both sides of the argument as well, but yeah, I just can't see $37. If there were no cap...Jerry might pay him $45-50, I have no doubt. But there is a cap. 5 years and $175 million is beyond fair, beyond market value, to me, turning that down means Dak is gonna try and squeeze out every penny possible.
Almost every time a QB has broke the bank his team suffered, especially when he is not the best in the game. Wherever you rank Dak, even top 10 or top 5, he isn't Mahomes, Rodgers or Wilson

 

[Sir Robin Of Camelot]

Here's what I don't understand about this particular story...

When the hell did Chris Simms become this "trusted" insider? Out of the blue, he shows up on Sunday Night Football last year or the year before with no fanfare or announced credentials and just starts sharing hot sports opinions with (of all people) Mike Florio... and next thing you know he's being quoted as a reliable source... by friggin' Mike Fisher (don't get me started on that waste of bandwidth).

They definitely got chatter going. Just don't know that it's warranted.

I'll climb back into my box now.

 

[Manster7588]

Here's what I don't understand about this particular story...

When the hell did Chris Simms become this "trusted" insider? Out of the blue, he shows up on Sunday Night Football last year or the year before with no fanfare or announced credentials and just starts sharing hot sports opinions with (of all people) Mike Florio... and next thing you know he's being quoted as a reliable source... by friggin' Mike Fisher (don't get me started on that waste of bandwidth).

They definitely got chatter going. Just don't know that it's warranted.

I'll climb back into my box now.

Good question, and a reason why I say per reports, as I'm not sold on any source being a reliable source unless it's coming direct from Daks camp, or the Front Office.
Odd thing is Jerry who's never at a loss for words is eerily silent on the situation.

 

[PDay8810]

Everything Im reading has the hold up at $175 vs $185 for a 5 year deal.

this is somewhat correct. Dallas wants 5 years at 175 while Dak's camp whats a 4 year term. Dak's side said if you insist on 5 years then we want 45 for year #5 (185). Nothing new here, Dak wants another contract after 4 years when the new TV deal is in play. The cap is expected to be a shit load more in 4 years with that new TV deal. The salary cap in 2014 was 133 and in 2015 it was 143....that's right at 50M in the last 5 years and remains the main reason why this is headed towards the 11th hour. In 5 years the cap could very well be north of 250 and Dak at 35 will be a bargain.

Fuck....give him 4 years at 140 and see if he plays well enough to get that next big contract.

also....I'd bet Dak is in camp when it's time to go to camp and not sit out a week before the seasons start