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[calsnowskier]

Okert and Blanks sent down as well.

 

[Mays-Fan]

I don't know about that. If healthy (a big if, admittedly), he's been a solid contributor.

And he has been both so far this spring, hitting around .500.

I don't see any big surprises in the OF this spring. The one of Parker and Williamson who gets sent down is probably the one they like better, so he can play everyday.

 

[tzill]

And he has been both so far this spring, hitting around .500.

I don't see any big surprises in the OF this spring. The one of Parker and Williamson who gets sent down is probably the one they like better, so he can play everyday.

I think both will be sent down. Gorkys was the fastest guy I saw in Arizona. He's a RH Blanco, and I loves me some White Shark. My guess:

C: Posey, Brown (Sac to DL)
IF: BB9, JP, Stamos, Duffman, KT, EA
OF: Herk, Span, Oxy, Shark, RHShark
SP: Bum, JC, SammyJam, Peaved, Horse
RP: KCya, Romo, JLo, Strick, Osich, Greek, Hesto

 

[Mays-Fan]

I think both will be sent down. Gorkys was the fastest guy I saw in Arizona. He's a RH Blanco, and I loves me some White Shark. My guess:

C: Posey, Brown (Sac to DL)
IF: BB9, JP, Stamos, Duffman, KT, EA
OF: Herk, Span, Oxy, Shark, RHShark
SP: Bum, JC, SammyJam, Peaved, Horse
RP: KCya, Romo, JLo, Strick, Osich, Greek, Hesto

I agree with your list. The exceptions MAY be the last OF as discussed, and given the unimpressive starting pitching so far, they may carry another reliever ("On" Broadway?) with EA getting sent down.

 

[calsnowskier]

If Gorkys were to make the team, someone would need to be removed from the 40 (Gardecki, I assume, would be placed on the 60).

EA and Gearrin can not be sent down, but I THINK Broadway can (not sure, but I have not seen him on any "no-options" lists).

 

[Stokes1931]

I think both will be sent down. Gorkys was the fastest guy I saw in Arizona. He's a RH Blanco, and I loves me some White Shark. My guess:

C: Posey, Brown (Sac to DL)
IF: BB9, JP, Stamos, Duffman, KT, EA
OF: Herk, Span, Oxy, Shark, RHShark
SP: Bum, JC, SammyJam, Peaved, Horse
RP: KCya, Romo, JLo, Strick, Osich, Greek, Hesto

I am in pretty much agreement with you. I love speed. And yet, Noggin is not known for allowing speed to be used.

 

[calsnowskier]

I like Gorkys, and would love to keep him in the fold. But he has a skillset we have in spades. Parker has a skillset we do NOT have (pure power off the bench).

Gorkys = Blanco = Pagan (in basic skillsets)

 

[Stokes1931]

I like Gorkys, and would love to keep him in the fold. But he has a skillset we have in spades. Parker has a skillset we do NOT have (pure power off the bench).

Gorkys = Blanco = Pagan (in basic skillsets)

Nice problem to have.

One thing in Blackburn's favor, aside from the fact that the kid can pitch, he can hit as well. Maybe not Bum's power, but the kid can rake.

 

[tzill]

Nice problem to have.

One thing in Blackburn's favor, aside from the fact that the kid can pitch, he can hit as well. Maybe not Bum's power, but the kid can rake.

Many speculating that Clayton is now the #6 SP, and not Moses.

 

[dredinis21]

Many speculating that Clayton is now the #6 SP, and not Moses.

I think we'd be nuts NOT to use Moses as #6

 

[calsnowskier]

I think we'd be nuts NOT to use Moses as #6

Both are solid 4/5s on most MLB teams right now. The Giants are deep at SP.

But I agree that Heston should be the #6. He has demonstrated dominance at the MLB level. If he can build up his stamina, he can be a legit 2/3. I like Blackburn's potential more in the long run, but he is just potential. Heston is a known(ish) quantity.

 

[Mays-Fan]

I still think a 6-man rotation is worth looking at, at least until the ASB. Then go with the best five.

 

[tzill]

I still think a 6-man rotation is worth looking at, at least until the ASB. Then go with the best five.

I am not in favor of less starts for Bum and JC.

 

[Mays-Fan]

I am not in favor of less starts for Bum and JC.

That can be accommodated. There is no rule that says your SPs have to go in the same sequence everytime.

But so far, neither Bum nor Cueto look like they are ready to go 6+ innings every 5th game. There's only a week to go here. Just saying.

 

[calsnowskier]

It really sucks that the Giants are not going to win the Cactus League Championship this year.

Do you think we will be able to get anything good for Bum if we traded him now?

 

[Mays-Fan]

It really sucks that the Giants are not going to win the Cactus League Championship this year.

Do you think we will be able to get anything good for Bum if we traded him now?

Understood. But ponder these ERA's so far:

MLB Baseball Spring Training Leaders - San Francisco Giants - Major League Baseball - ESPN

Bum 10.56
Cueto 16.63
Sammy 8.53
Peavy 8.52
Cain 10.11

I'm not sayin'. I'm just sayin'.

(LOL I just noticed at the link - "Coonrod")

 

[calsnowskier]

But these guys are not TRYING to get outs. They are trying to get their work in and trying to find their slots. In thise situations, they are pitching while OCMPLETELY ignoring the batter and the situation. They may, for example, be throwing 15 consecutive curveballs just to get the feel of it, or throwing a repetitive cycle of pitches (FB, CB, SL, FB, CB, SL,...) so they can get used to changing grips.

ERA means next to nothing. However, almost all of the SPs have very nice peripherals (Ks, BBs, etc)

 

[Mays-Fan]

But these guys are not TRYING to get outs. They are trying to get their work in and trying to find their slots. In thise situations, they are pitching while OCMPLETELY ignoring the batter and the situation. They may, for example, be throwing 15 consecutive curveballs just to get the feel of it, or throwing a repetitive cycle of pitches (FB, CB, SL, FB, CB, SL,...) so they can get used to changing grips.

ERA means next to nothing. However, almost all of the SPs have very nice peripherals (Ks, BBs, etc)

Bum and Cueto have ERA's higher than their salaries. There's your Factoid of the Day.

 

[tzill]

That can be accommodated. There is no rule that says your SPs have to go in the same sequence everytime.

But so far, neither Bum nor Cueto look like they are ready to go 6+ innings every 5th game. There's only a week to go here. Just saying.

I figure 12 more starts before opening day. Something like this:
3/23 - Horse
3/24 - Bum
3/25 - Blackburn and JC (ss)
3/26 - SammyJam
3/27 - Peaved
3/28 - Horse
3/29 - Bum
3/30 - JC (@ Rivercats)
3/31 - SammyJam
4/1 - Peaved
4/2 - Horse

Opening Day is 4/4

So Everybody but Cain has 2 more starts to get it together. Cain has 3. I'm not overly concerned, though Bum only went 2.2 in his last start (you'd like to see 4-5 IP at this point). JC went six, SammyJam six, Peaved went 4.2, and Horse went 2.2. Again, Horse has 3 starts to stretch out to 5+.

There's time, but I'd agree that we need to start seeing results starting Thursday.

 

[Mays-Fan]

Cain bombed again today, ERA up to 12.15.

Heston getting in the act as well, ERA now at 5.65.

Hope you guys are right.