Current owners and GM's concerned about expansion draft

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"The other thing is that one of the real contentious discussions so far as the executive committee level is the actual parameters of an expansion draft, and how that would look like, because Gary Bettman wants an expansion draft to be better than ever before. He wants the new team or teams to reflect the parity of the NHL. He doesn’t want them to be near the bottom of the standings for five years, like has traditionally been the case with most expansion teams in the last 20 years.

“So because of that, what the executive committee has been shown as the original ideas from the league for an expansion draft has them being exposed and losing some pretty good players.”

LeBrun - Expansion Draft Could Net Quality Players - TSS

 

[pixburgher66]

"The other thing is that one of the real contentious discussions so far as the executive committee level is the actual parameters of an expansion draft, and how that would look like, because Gary Bettman wants an expansion draft to be better than ever before. He wants the new team or teams to reflect the parity of the NHL. He doesn’t want them to be near the bottom of the standings for five years, like has traditionally been the case with most expansion teams in the last 20 years.

“So because of that, what the executive committee has been shown as the original ideas from the league for an expansion draft has them being exposed and losing some pretty good players.”

LeBrun - Expansion Draft Could Net Quality Players - TSS

Considering that I don't even think expansion franchises will be financially viable, this won't help my opinion.

 

[forty_three]

There was talk that teams wouldn't be able to expose players with NMC/NTC in an expansion draft.

Expansion draft is the only way that we're ever getting rid of Clarkson.


I don't like expansion, but teams crying over losing talent isn't why. And my team could potentially lose some really good young guys in a draft.

 

[dash]

I don't like expansion, but teams crying over losing talent isn't why. And my team could potentially lose some really good young guys in a draft.

I can understand Bettman's desire to have expansion teams somewhat competitive off the hop, but I don't think teams that have embraced a rebuild should have to lose some of their young top prospects either. Let's say the league expands by two teams, that means about 50 new jobs at the NHL level. There are plenty of veteran players that can extend their career for at least one more season. I would rather see a one-time exemption for expansion teams at the entry draft that allows them to have picks 1 and 2 (like Buffalo and Vancouver when they entered the league as expansion teams in 1970).

 

[forty_three]

I can understand Bettman's desire to have expansion teams somewhat competitive off the hop, but I don't think teams that have embraced a rebuild should have to lose some of their young top prospects either. Let's say the league expands by two teams, that means about 50 new jobs at the NHL level. There are plenty of veteran players that can extend their career for at least one more season. I would rather see a one-time exemption for expansion teams at the entry draft that allows them to have picks 1 and 2 (like Buffalo and Vancouver when they entered the league as expansion teams in 1970).

If Bettman really wants competitive teams in the new markets out of the gate, he should move some teams that already have players. Arizona and Florida, for example.

Those teams are competitive right now.

It would be the Jackets luck that not only would they not win a draft lottery in shit season from hell, but two brand new teams get to pick before them as well.

 

[jstewismybastardson]

I can understand Bettman's desire to have expansion teams somewhat competitive off the hop, but I don't think teams that have embraced a rebuild should have to lose some of their young top prospects either. Let's say the league expands by two teams, that means about 50 new jobs at the NHL level. There are plenty of veteran players that can extend their career for at least one more season. I would rather see a one-time exemption for expansion teams at the entry draft that allows them to have picks 1 and 2 (like Buffalo and Vancouver when they entered the league as expansion teams in 1970).

agree with this ... tough titty for the teams that tanked imo

nba restricting the vancouver grizzlies from having pick 1 in the first 2 years of the franchise existence was just one (of many) excuses why the franchise failed

 

[esls79]

Would some teams get more players in the bank than others?

 

[davnlaguna]

If they expand by two teams, they don't need to decimate any teams.
There will be UFAs and RFAs that the new teams can afford to pay. Cap space and losing for 5 years and you can have a winning team

None expansion team before had a cap in my place. It should even things up for a smart GM fairly quick

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

agree with this ... tough titty for the teams that tanked imo

nba restricting the vancouver grizzlies from having pick 1 in the first 2 years of the franchise existence was just one (of many) excuses why the franchise failed

Well, they did pick Big Country over Damon Staudamire lol.

But AI would've been a game changer for sure.

 

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It is Larry Brooks, but I don't like the idea of teams having to protect players with NMC on expiring contracts.

Second, Slap Shots has learned that rules for the 2017 expansion draft that will precede Las Vegas’ anticipated 2017-18 admission to the league as its 31st franchise (“Done deal,” we’re told), will compel teams to protect players with no-move clauses even if they or the contracts themselves expire at the end of 2016-17.

This means if the expansion draft is held, say, on June 21, 2017, teams will be obligated to protect players who, a) would become unrestricted free agents 10 days later; or, b) would be able to be waived or traded 10 days later.

This is, of course, completely illogical … except when applied against Sixth Avenue’s overriding philosophy of punishing teams for following certain regulations within the CBA that for some reasons offend the league. Then it makes perfect sense.

How NHL’s mad parity quest hurts players’ wallets, ambitious teams

 

[mattola]

radical idea.. totally original ..... let the expansion teams have a win in the bank. seriously.... just thought it up....

 

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Looks like Larry Brooks was wrong (shocking, I realize)

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

Looks like Larry Brooks was wrong (shocking, I realize)

Could just be because this:

 

[KennyBanyeah]

Could just be because this:

Please let this happen. No more dilution of talent and even conferences???

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

Please let this happen. No more dilution of talent and even conferences???

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I wonder how they mix and match the divisions now?

 

[KennyBanyeah]

I wonder how they mix and match the divisions now?

Move Florida to Quebec and Tampa into the metro.

 

[dash]

Stolen from another board - Here's a list of players from each team that have a non-expiring NMC for the proposed 2017 expansion draft:

Anaheim:
Corey Perry
Ryan Getzlaf
Ryan Kesler
Kevin Bieksa

Arizona
None

Boston
David Krejci
Patrice Bergeron
Zdeno Chara
Tuukka Rask

Buffalo:
Ryan O'Reilly
Zach Bogosian

Calgary:
None

Carolina:
None

Chicago:
Jonathan Toews
Patrick Kane
Marian Hossa
Brent Seabrook
Duncan Keith
Niklas Hjalmarsson
Corey Crawford

Colorado:
Francois Beauchemin

Columbus:
Brandon Dubinsky
Nick Foligno
David Clarkson
Scott Hartnell
Fedor Tyutin

Dallas:
Jason Spezza

Detroit:
None

Edmonton:
Andrej Sekera
Cam Talbot

Florida:
None

Los Angeles:
Anze Kopitar
Vincent Lecavalier

Minnesota:
Zach Parise
Jason Pominville
Ryan Suter
Mikko Koivu

Montreal:
PK Subban
Jeff Petry

Nashville:
Pekka Rinne

New Jersey
Ryane Clowe

New York Islanders:
John Tavares
Johnny Boychuk

New York Rangers
Marc Staal
Dan Girardi
Henrik Lundkvist

Ottawa:
Bobby Ryan
Dion Phaneuf


Philadelphia:
Claude Giroux


Pittsburgh:
Evgeni Malkin
Sidney Crosby
Phil Kessel
Kris Letang
Marc-Andre Fleury

San Jose:
None

St. Louis:
None

Tampa Bay
Ryan Callahan
Valtteri Filppula

Toronto:
Nathan Horton

Vancouver:
Henrik Sedin
Daniel Sedin

Washington:
None

Winnipeg:
Dustin Byfuglien
Tyler Myers
Toby Enstrom

 

[KennyBanyeah]

Stolen from another board - Here's a list of players from each team that have a non-expiring NMC for the proposed 2017 expansion draft:

Anaheim:
Corey Perry
Ryan Getzlaf
Ryan Kesler
Kevin Bieksa

Arizona
None

Boston
David Krejci
Patrice Bergeron
Zdeno Chara
Tuukka Rask

Buffalo:
Ryan O'Reilly
Zach Bogosian

Calgary:
None

Carolina:
None

Chicago:
Jonathan Toews
Patrick Kane
Marian Hossa
Brent Seabrook
Duncan Keith
Niklas Hjalmarsson
Corey Crawford

Colorado:
Francois Beauchemin

Columbus:
Brandon Dubinsky
Nick Foligno
David Clarkson
Scott Hartnell
Fedor Tyutin

Dallas:
Jason Spezza

Detroit:
None

Edmonton:
Andrej Sekera
Cam Talbot

Florida:
None

Los Angeles:
Anze Kopitar
Vincent Lecavalier

Minnesota:
Zach Parise
Jason Pominville
Ryan Suter
Mikko Koivu

Montreal:
PK Subban
Jeff Petry

Nashville:
Pekka Rinne

New Jersey
Ryane Clowe

New York Islanders:
John Tavares
Johnny Boychuk

New York Rangers
Marc Staal
Dan Girardi
Henrik Lundkvist

Ottawa:
Bobby Ryan
Dion Phaneuf


Philadelphia:
Claude Giroux


Pittsburgh:
Evgeni Malkin
Sidney Crosby
Phil Kessel
Kris Letang
Marc-Andre Fleury

San Jose:
None

St. Louis:
None

Tampa Bay
Ryan Callahan
Valtteri Filppula

Toronto:
Nathan Horton

Vancouver:
Henrik Sedin
Daniel Sedin

Washington:
None

Winnipeg:
Dustin Byfuglien
Tyler Myers
Toby Enstrom

Anaheim and Columbus look like the hardest hit to me. Anaheim is going to have to expose a pretty damn good young defenseman (or two). And C-Bus is going to be protecting some of its worst players.

 

[dash]

Anaheim and Columbus look like the hardest hit to me. Anaheim is going to have to expose a pretty damn good young defenseman (or two). And C-Bus is going to be protecting some of its worst players.

Not to steal 43's thunder, but

DUBINSKY IS A GOD DAMN HERO!!

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

Toronto:
Nathan Horton

Yippee.