Comeback Player of the Year

[mufasa76]

If Alex wins, should he split it with Harbaugh and the defense? haha i kid i kid

lol

 

[h0ckeysk83r]

What has Mathew Stafford proven in his first to seasons to be a "comeback" player of the year? It's like Tall Glass of water was saying, they haven't had a prior great season to come back from. I like your Steve Smith argument, but Victor Cruz, Stafford, Alex Smith, and Reggie Bush shouldn't qualify, but they should all be considerations for Breakout player of the year.

well said i agree here

 

[clyde_carbon]

Didn't know any of them were considered one of the bigger bust of all time only to lead a team to a 13-3 record and the second seed in the playoffs. Stafford is a very good QB and I would love him to be on our team, but he never heard "we want Carr" after every incompletion. He never dealt with having a new OC every year. He was wrote off for dead. Alex was. And now Alex has lead this team into the playoffs with a 13-3 record. Throw all the stats out you want. Alex came back for more. That is what this award is about. Not MVP.

That's complete BS. Don't base your opinion on what Cazic and the other ESPN clowns thought of Smith. They're the only ones who thought Smith was one of the biggest busts of all time. He was a bust and a disappointment, no doubt, not one of the biggest ever.

And what exactly is Alex Smith coming back to? A serviceable QB? He's 19th in yards and 17th in TDs. He has only TWO MORE TDs than he did last year. What about a guy like Matt Moore, who also "left for dead" and has very close stats to Alex Smith.

If your criterea is "left for dead", what about Victor Cruz? The guy was undrafted in 2010. Doesn't catch a single pass in his first three games of the season and then goes on IR. People were talking about him being cut. Then comes back this year to be #1 receiving WR in Giants history.

You know why Stafford is gonna win this award? Because he deserves it more than Smith. Because the rest of the football world isn't as far up Smith's ass as this board is.

 

[h0ckeysk83r]

lol

And David akers of course lol

How did akers do last year? Would he qualify for comeback player? lol has it ever gone to a kicker?

 

[clyde_carbon]

What has Mathew Stafford proven in his first to seasons to be a "comeback" player of the year? It's like Tall Glass of water was saying, they haven't had a prior great season to come back from. I like your Steve Smith argument, but Victor Cruz, Stafford, Alex Smith, and Reggie Bush shouldn't qualify, but they should all be considerations for Breakout player of the year.

Nowhere in the award does it say that a player had to be a good player the year prior.

 

[CalamityX11]

Comeback player is kind of hard to pick. Is it a guy who was good then got hurt or had a bad season then got back to his good ways?? If that's the case you can't pick Alex Smith, Stafford, or Reggie Bush (who should at least get a look) because they haven't had really good seasons to go back to. Stafford is hands down the breakout star of the year though.
If you look at the history of the award it is typically given to guys coming off a bad season, injury (or prison) returning to form. To be honest I'm not sure this applies to anybody this year. Next year there will be a few guys who could get it though. Manning, Chris Johnson, Beason, possibly Peterson.

Over Megatron?

 

[clyde_carbon]

Comeback player is kind of hard to pick. Is it a guy who was good then got hurt or had a bad season then got back to his good ways?? If that's the case you can't pick Alex Smith, Stafford, or Reggie Bush (who should at least get a look) because they haven't had really good seasons to go back to. Stafford is hands down the breakout star of the year though.

If you look at the history of the award it is typically given to guys coming off a bad season, injury (or prison) returning to form. To be honest I'm not sure this applies to anybody this year. Next year there will be a few guys who could get it though. Manning, Chris Johnson, Beason, possibly Peterson.

What? Both Stafford and Cruz were on IR last year.

 

[numone9er]

Nowhere in the award does it say that a player had to be a good player the year prior.

That may be the case, but that's what the award means to me. If they don't view the award as somebody who actually "came back from something" then they should call it something else...IMO of course. Obviously Stafford had the best season, so if that's how you view the award he would be the obvious choice.

 

[tallglassofwater007]

What? Both Stafford and Cruz were on IR last year.

I'm not taking anything away from Stafford, or saying Smith should win. I don't think Smith should win. All I am saying is that Stafford/ Cruz never got to have a full season to show anything. If you look back at the guys who have won the award, it is usually an established guy who got hurt or had a bad year, then came back to have a great year. So based on that information, I could see it going to someone like a Steve Smith. If they are just going off of a player who is coming back from an injury period...yeah it goes to Stafford. But that's not what has typically happened. An unestablished player coming off an injury that is. They didn't give it to Drew Brees after his shoulder injury when he left SD. I know he didn't miss games, but that was a possible career ending injury.

 

[CalamityX11]

Nowhere in the award does it say that a player had to be a good player the year prior.

It doesn't state it I'm sure, but what would qualify a comeback?

39% of his TDs did go to Megatron who had a great year.

But Stafford did have an injury last year and never went through the same hardship and disappointment that Alex went through.

Well if Pennington can beat Brees in 2006(won in 2008 too) maybe Smith could too.

 

[clyde_carbon]

I'm not taking anything away from Stafford, or saying Smith should win. I don't think Smith should win. All I am saying is that Stafford/ Cruz never got to have a full season to show anything. If you look back at the guys who have won the award, it is usually an established guy who got hurt or had a bad year, then came back to have a great year. So based on that information, I could see it going to someone like a Steve Smith. If they are just going off of a player who is coming back from an injury period...yeah it goes to Stafford. But that's not what has typically happened. An unestablished player coming off an injury that is.

And all I'm saying is you don't have to. Nowhere in the "rules" does it say that said player has to be established in the NFL.

 

[clyde_carbon]

That may be the case, but that's what the award means to me. If they don't view the award as somebody who actually "came back from something" then they should call it something else...IMO of course. Obviously Stafford had the best season, so if that's how you view the award he would be the obvious choice.

It doesn't matter what it means to you. You can't make up rules just to fit who you think should win.

 

[tallglassofwater007]

And all I'm saying is you don't have to. Nowhere in the "rules" does it say that said player has to be established in the NFL.

Yeah, I know. I am saying that typically that has been how it has gone down.

 

[sayheykid1]

Are you guys fucking kidding me? Alex Smith over Stafford? Stafford is coming off of two season ending shoulder injuries only to be the 4th QB EVER to throw for 5,000 yards. He has nearly tripled Smith's passing TDs and has led Detroit to their first 10-win season since 1995 with no semblance of a running game and a suspect defense.

As a matter of fact I'd take Victor Cruz or Steve Smith as comeback players of the year before I'd take Smith.

Like Tall mentioned, what does "comeback" mean? Both Stafford and Smith aren't really coming back to anything because neither had done much before. Victor Cruz?

 

[sayheykid1]

Nowhere in the award does it say that a player had to be a good player the year prior.

So a rookie could get consideration for the award?

What does comeback mean to you?

What are "the rules" for the award?

 

[h0ckeysk83r]

National Football League Comeback Player of the Year Award - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Here are the rules. Everyone named is in play lol

 

[9er4life]

Nowhere in the award does it say that a player had to be a good player the year prior.

I did some research and couldn't find any rules per say, but from what I read, everything pointed to having at least been established in the league then getting hurt, going to jail for killing dogs, etc. Here's a quote I found from Mike Williams...

"I think that award is about guys who we really have come back, guys who were established players in this league and had a little bit of adversity and bounced back."

Everywhere I looked there were quotes similar to this one.

 

[sayheykid1]

National Football League Comeback Player of the Year Award - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Here are the rules. Everyone named is in play lol

Doesn't that essentially indicates that there are no rules whatsoever so each voter makes up their own criteria?

 

[MW49ers5]

McGahee was drafted in '03, didn't play due to a knee injury, then won the award in 2004

 

[Flyingiguana]

Are you guys fucking kidding me? Alex Smith over Stafford? Stafford is coming off of two season ending shoulder injuries only to be the 4th QB EVER to throw for 5,000 yards. He has nearly tripled Smith's passing TDs and has led Detroit to their first 10-win season since 1995 with no semblance of a running game and a suspect defense.

As a matter of fact I'd take Victor Cruz or Steve Smith as comeback players of the year before I'd take Smith.

ya but we're just a bunch of homers, so we want smith to have it. i mean, shouldn't he at least win something for putting up with this organization. nolan threw the guy under the bus, singletary and 50k screaming fans wanted him gone.

maybe they should give it to the whole 49ers team cuss we're fucking back baby