College Athlete Compensation

[Irish7478]

Fuck any school too poor to pay the pittance I am suggesting. It would only be for 5 sports.....OK 6 or 8 if you absolutely have to treat the girls the same since the Title IX lovers think everything has to be 50/50. 3 or 4 men's sports/3 or 4 women's sports. I don't give a damn about any school that's pulling in millions of dollars every year and still can't "afford to play sports". Then drop sports. I'm sick of the socialists in this country trying to mandate equality. Some people are more successful for a reason. Some schools are more successful in a particular sport for a reason. Pay the players something, make it reasonable and make it a choice for each school to pick the sports they want to emphasize. If Ryder Truck Driving Academy can't afford to field a football team that can compete with Oklahoma and Notre Dame then they can field one that can compete with Colorado State and Rutgers. If that's too much then let them drop the football program or get out of the FBS. Again: fuck socialism. I want exceptional people and exceptional schools to be able to excel if they have the fortitude and dedication to achieving excellence. Oklahoma finds a way to compete successfully against Texas and they have facilities that God would have if He had the money.

Talk about conference realignment. If half of the Big Ten or the Big 12 decide they have to drop certain sports the whole conference system falls to hell.

 

[bamafan4evr12]

Yeah, after all, ALL of these players come from families who aren't poor and can afford to send them money every month.

Let me rephrase since you just assumed that's what I meant. If mom and dad can send them money, and choose to do so, then so be it. If mom and dad can't, then tough break for them I say...let their aunts and uncles send them money if they can or their teammates can take them out if they want. Plenty of kids going to school full time, working full time, paying bills and so forth and so on and they barely have enough to eat.

These guys get free meals and board, a free education and plenty of advantages. You get into paying college players then they're going to need to pay taxes on it. Then you get into what's fair pay for everyone, do certain players get more or less? Its a slippery slope.

 

[bamafan4evr12]

I'm not saying that that's realistic. It isn't. And as is there's risk that an injury bankrupts the kids and they're families as the current system works, and that's broken. Any injury that occurs while in the program should be covered for life.


But stipends, spending money, etc? No. You know none of those kids have to pay for anything anyways.

Agreed with everything you said. Injuries should be covered for life, but they don't need to paid

 

[Goldbug]

Talk about conference realignment. If half of the Big Ten or the Big 12 decide they have to drop certain sports the whole conference system falls to hell.

And therein lies an excellent additional benefit to my proposal; it could whittle down the number of FBS schools from a ridiculous 125 to something less.....maybe even much less. Major college football is only played by about 40 schools, good college football is played by about another 40 and shitty college football is played by the rest. USC, Alabama, Notre Dame, Florida State, Oregon, Ohio State, Texas, etc. shouldn't have to play by the same rules as Cyrus T. Clement's School of Animal Husbandry and Applied Fertilizer Science. Can't foot the bills? Can't get your fans to support big time sports? Can't get the top players to attend your school? Then tough twinkies; drop down and play at your own level AND BE COMPETITIVE. We all need to play some weaker teams to fill out our schedules but cupcakes should be a thing of the past. I'd rather see two 10-2 teams playing for a NC who played hard schedules than 12-0 teams who floated through their season. And if conferences have to realign......great!! The weakest sisters don't belong in major conferences anyway.

 

[trojanfan12]

Let me rephrase since you just assumed that's what I meant. If mom and dad can send them money, and choose to do so, then so be it. If mom and dad can't, then tough break for them I say...let their aunts and uncles send them money if they can or their teammates can take them out if they want. Plenty of kids going to school full time, working full time, paying bills and so forth and so on and they barely have enough to eat.

These guys get free meals and board, a free education and plenty of advantages. You get into paying college players then they're going to need to pay taxes on it. Then you get into what's fair pay for everyone, do certain players get more or less? Its a slippery slope.

The problem is that, at least in the regular season, these players don't have time to get any kind of job so they have some cash on hand.

I'm well aware of what regular students do to make ends meet. My wife graduated from USC. She was fortunate because her parents sold some properties so she didn't have to take out a bunch of loans. As a regular student, she had time to have a part-time, weekends only job, so that she could have some pocket money.

The difference between her and student/athletes is that she had the time to be able to work a part-time job while going to class, student/athletes don't have that kind of time. The other difference is that 80,000 people weren't paying to watch her take a psychology exam. Student/athletes get the things they get because of the revenue they generate for the school.

As I posted earlier, my stance on paying student/athletes is that if a way can be found to do so that is fair and doesn't open a Pandora's Box of other potential problems, then I'm all for it. I just haven't seen one yet.

 

[bamafan4evr12]

The problem is that, at least in the regular season, these players don't have time to get any kind of job so they have some cash on hand.

I'm well aware of what regular students do to make ends meet. My wife graduated from USC. She was fortunate because her parents sold some properties so she didn't have to take out a bunch of loans. As a regular student, she had time to have a part-time, weekends only job, so that she could have some pocket money.

The difference between her and student/athletes is that she had the time to be able to work a part-time job while going to class, student/athletes don't have that kind of time. The other difference is that 80,000 people weren't paying to watch her take a psychology exam. Student/athletes get the things they get because of the revenue they generate for the school.

As I posted earlier, my stance on paying student/athletes is that if a way can be found to do so that is fair and doesn't open a Pandora's Box of other potential problems, then I'm all for it. I just haven't seen one yet.

Student athletes also have advantages that regular students don't. They have their college education completely paid for, meals paid for, living expenses paid for, access to equipment (weight room, athletic wear etc). Colleges make money off the players, but the players also get plenty from the college (if they're willing to accept it). I just don't see a scenario where college players should be paid. However, any medical conditions they sustain from college athletics should be paid for for life.

 

[TexasExes98]

Student athletes also have advantages that regular students don't. They have their college education completely paid for, meals paid for, living expenses paid for, access to equipment (weight room, athletic wear etc). Colleges make money off the players, but the players also get plenty from the college (if they're willing to accept it). I just don't see a scenario where college players should be paid. However, any medical conditions they sustain from college athletics should be paid for for life.

EXACTLY ^^^^^ Let's not forget, they can actually get part time jobs by working for the school, whether it's working in the Registrar's office or working in the School of Business office doing clerical stuff. I saw several student/athletes work these part time jobs for the school while I was a student at UT. It's minimum wage, but who cares. It's a job that is available to student/athletes. They receive plenty and they have access to extra money. If they choose not seek out these opportunities, that's their fault.

 

[bocomo007]

I agree a HS kid IF drafted and wanted by an NFL team should have a right to go earn a living in any fashion he chooses too and bi-pass college with no penalty.

IF a kid signs a "4 year letter of intent" then it should be treated as a "binding contractual agreement" between two parties and upheld till the end of such agreement. That would include that the student athlete stay in college the entire time, have passing grades AND the school is obligated to their side of the said agreement also, no early termination either, medical liability for a said period of time or other payout agreement. BOTH SIDES are locked in so to speak. If athletes are employees, then treat em a such and compensate them as agreed too also.

As for any additional compensation between the 2 parties, that remains to be seen. I hope NorWest guys vote for a specialized union and this issue gets resolved quicker than latter.

Time to level out the playing field a bit, good for all I say.

level what playing field?

 

[night]

I'll be okay with paying players when they can just admit they're not a student-athlete, they're just an athlete. I'm willing to bet once they're actually able to receive salaries, schools will have even more of an incentive to flub their grades or make special classes for them a full-blown retard couldn't fail.

 

[TexasExes98]

I'll be okay with paying players when they can just admit they're not a student-athlete, they're just an athlete. I'm willing to bet once they're actually able to receive salaries, schools will have even more of an incentive to flub their grades or make special classes for them a full-blown retard couldn't fail.

On the flip side to that, I'll be okay w/schools paying them, but now they have to attend class and actually pass in order to receive that pay. Maintain at least a 2.5 GPA, would be a major accomplishment for 95% of these dumbfucks......

 

[night]

On the flip side to that, I'll be okay w/schools paying them, but now they have to attend class and actually pass in order to receive that pay. Maintain at least a 2.5 GPA, would be a major accomplishment for 95% of these dumbfucks......

Just simply using the same standards for athletes in the classroom as the school uses for every other student would be a giant step in the right direction. A 2.5 should be pretty easy to do while carrying 12 credits (2 Cs and 2 Bs) without studying much at all.

 

[steveringo]

As John Calipari signs a $52 million contract -the debate resurfaces about paying college athletes...

Is a free education, rooming and a meal plan enough?

 

[Irish7478]

As John Calipari signs a $52 million contract -the debate resurfaces about paying college athletes...

Is a free education, rooming and a meal plan enough?

Yes, I think so. At some schools that runs over $60K.

 

[Taz_Hokie]

#3 already happens.

 

[steveringo]

#3 already happens.

True. I should have said 'bigger'....

Maybe Napier wouldn't go to bed starving?

UConn Basketball Player Speaks Of 'Hungry Nights,' Going To Bed 'Starving'

 

[BritishDolfan]

They should be given a stipend (larger than now).

 

[night]

The sad truth is we're only talking about this because barely any of these athletes actually take advantage of the education available to them. They get tuition,food,clothes, books, and board covered. Most kids that age who work full-time couldn't afford half of that stuff. That is why I voted no.

 

[HizzleRocker]

No way. This coming from someone who played on college scholarship. College kids (with rare exceptions) are poor. Just the way it is. But, they get:

1) To play the sport they love;
2) Free training, coaching, and use of facilities;
3) Free room and board;
4) Stipends to various degrees;
5) A free education;
6) And a free internship/interview each week they play, with a chance that some team will make them a millionaire.

But, you mean I have to suffer through all of that for a couple years while I'm 18-20 before I get to become a millionaire or at least graduate with a college degree???

 

[Loneranger]

As John Calipari signs a $52 million contract -the debate resurfaces about paying college athletes...

Is a free education, rooming and a meal plan enough?

It should be but it isn't that simple anymore. For years I was completely paying these guys a penny , not anymore. There's much to consider but so i'll keep it simple. Schools are making billions off these guys while the athletes aren't allowed to have a PT job to make pocket change. The freebies all sound good but athletes are allowed to do nothing that involves making money. So we have campus' littered with poor kids with no money and they aren't allowed to make money. So what do we think is gonna happen? Agents breaking rules , athletes stealing etc and all kinds of other shit. The schools and coaches have been getting rich off these kids for a long time. Those days are coming to an end no matter which side you're on. Very soon college sports will be nothing like we remember it , maybe that isn't so bad.

 

[Slimpikins]

A kid from any other discipline (music, science, performing arts) is allowed to use the same skills that grant then the scholarship to make money. I see no reason why athletes shouldn't be able to make money as well. If the NCAA is against them making money off of endorsements, appearances, signings, etc. Then they should pay them.

Honestly, I would like to see top level amateur sports be separated from schools completely and instead have semi pro or minor leagues formed.