Cleveland Browns Ongoing Thread

[dtgold88]

Player B is definitely the right choice.

Nance.

 

[Shanemansj13]

Three significant draft day trades made by Cleveland Browns’ John Dorsey

Saw this link and I think Dorsey is going to make a move to get into the mid to late 1st round depending on who is there.

There are a lot of options and that is the great thing, anything to improve the team.

This is how I would rank the needs and BPA at that need:

1. Cornerback (need a lockdown guy opposite of Ward) Guys I would like to see the Browns trade up or get in the 2nd: traded up for Byron Murphy. 2nd round guys: Baker, Layne, Ya-Sin, Love, Oruwariye.
2. Strong Safety - they have Burnett for now but they need depth and a guy for the future. Top targets: Abram, Rapp, Thornhill, Adderley, Hooker-3rd.
3. Outside Linebacker - I really like their young linebacker core but adding depth would be great. A playmaker.
4. Offensive Lineman (guard and tackle) - This is an area that could be higher on the list just depends who is there. Top guys I like: Jonah Williams, Dillard, Ford, Lindstrom, Risner, Little, Tytus Howard.
5. Defensive Line Depth (DT and pass rusher) - what a solid line they have but they need depth, good thing there is a lot of that in this draft.

Now this ranking doesn't mean he shouldn't go trade up for Devin Bush if he slides bc I think that would be a great move. Or trade up for Oliver or another DLineman if the Browns see a player fall. It is just what I think they need most improvement on or depth. I wouldn't be opposed to trading up or just taking BPA in the 2nd.

 

[dtgold88]

Three significant draft day trades made by Cleveland Browns’ John Dorsey

Saw this link and I think Dorsey is going to make a move to get into the mid to late 1st round depending on who is there.

There are a lot of options and that is the great thing, anything to improve the team.

This is how I would rank the needs and BPA at that need:

1. Cornerback (need a lockdown guy opposite of Ward) Guys I would like to see the Browns trade up or get in the 2nd: traded up for Byron Murphy. 2nd round guys: Baker, Layne, Ya-Sin, Love, Oruwariye.
2. Strong Safety - they have Burnett for now but they need depth and a guy for the future. Top targets: Abram, Rapp, Thornhill, Adderley, Hooker-3rd.
3. Outside Linebacker - I really like their young linebacker core but adding depth would be great. A playmaker.
4. Offensive Lineman (guard and tackle) - This is an area that could be higher on the list just depends who is there. Top guys I like: Jonah Williams, Dillard, Ford, Lindstrom, Risner, Little, Tytus Howard.
5. Defensive Line Depth (DT and pass rusher) - what a solid line they have but they need depth, good thing there is a lot of that in this draft.

Now this ranking doesn't mean he shouldn't go trade up for Devin Bush if he slides bc I think that would be a great move. Or trade up for Oliver or another DLineman if the Browns see a player fall. It is just what I think they need most improvement on or depth. I wouldn't be opposed to trading up or just taking BPA in the 2nd.

Can't say I've followed any of these guys to know and can only go by what we are told. That said, I'm pretty sure ESPN could convince fans that Paris Campbell should be a top 5 pick if they wanted to.

If he stays put I just hope they draft BPA on defense (I guess same if they trade up).

 

[Shanemansj13]

Can't say I've followed any of these guys to know and can only go by what we are told. That said, I'm pretty sure ESPN could convince fans that Paris Campbell should be a top 5 pick if they wanted to.

If he stays put I just hope they draft BPA on defense (I guess same if they trade up).

I don't see them going offense unless it is for OL honestly and that is in the entire draft. Maybe in the 6th or 7th they could get a TE or RB (depending on if Duke is gone by then or not).

This is definitely going to be a defensive draft

 

[Shanemansj13]

I'm the Browns for Nos' mock draft.

Took Rock Ya-Sin - CB in Round 2....could have went Layne or another CB.

Who you think would be the best Browns fit for my Round 3 pick?

@Across The Field

Top targets available for need...

OT - Tytus Howard
DT - Dremont Jones, along with others
DE - Jaylon Ferguson (really surprised he is still OTB)...some other guys too if you have one in mind
S - Juan Thornill, Darnell Savage, Amani Hooker
OLB - Okereke, Christian Miller, Tranquill

 

[Across The Field]

I'm the Browns for Nos' mock draft.

Took Rock Ya-Sin - CB in Round 2....could have went Layne or another CB.

Who you think would be the best Browns fit for my Round 3 pick?

@Across The Field

Top targets available for need...

OT - Tytus Howard
DT - Dremont Jones, along with others
DE - Jaylon Ferguson (really surprised he is still OTB)...some other guys too if you have one in mind
S - Juan Thornill, Darnell Savage, Amani Hooker
OLB - Okereke, Christian Miller, Tranquill

I'm grabbing Hooker here. I think he translates well very soon as a SS. Howard and Dre'Mont are enticing, but I'm definitely taking care of SS with this pick.

 

[Shanemansj13]

Well there goes Hooker...and Dremont went earlier. I could have traded up but I saw a lot of targets OTB. Ferguson the pass rusher also went, this early 3rd round sucks.

I might just go OL or Thornhill then.

 

[Across The Field]

Well there goes Hooker...and Dremont went earlier. I could have traded up but I saw a lot of targets OTB. Ferguson the pass rusher also went, this early 3rd round sucks.

I might just go OL or Thornhill then.

So the more I've been looking into the safeties, the more I'm liking Jonathan Abram. He looks like he'd be an excellent compliment to Randall in the defensive backfield. He's a tank of a hitter, and I'm seeing Keanu Neal comparisons. Looks like he could be available without a tradeup.

 

[Across The Field]

Also would keep an eye on Marquise Blair out of Utah. He's a hyper-aggressive hitter with high end speed and good tackling ability. He's also a NE Ohio boy, originally from Wooster.

 

[Shanemansj13]

So the more I've been looking into the safeties, the more I'm liking Jonathan Abram. He looks like he'd be an excellent compliment to Randall in the defensive backfield. He's a tank of a hitter, and I'm seeing Keanu Neal comparisons. Looks like he could be available without a tradeup.

I watched him at Miss St and he is a hell of a player. Also, would be thrilled if Jeffrey Simmons fell but not counting on it lol

I really think they need the most help with secondary so I am all for getting a S and/or CB early.

I wouldn't be opposed to trading up in the 1st early second and giving up a 2020 pick and late 2019 pick and keeping their 2nd this year. That way they could go CB AND S.

I figure Dorsey has something up his sleeve though

 

[Shanemansj13]

Also would keep an eye on Marquise Blair out of Utah. He's a hyper-aggressive hitter with high end speed and good tackling ability. He's also a NE Ohio boy, originally from Wooster.

Love the safeties in this draft

 

[Shanemansj13]

This didn't go the way I wanted honestly. Tried trading up in the 3rd to grab a safety earlier and they just kept flying off the board. I traded a 4th, 6th and 7th for another 3rd in this one.

2nd round
#49 – Rock Ya-Sin – CB - Temple

3rd round
#81 – Tytus Howard – OT – Alabama St.
#96 – L.J. Collier – DE - TCU

5th round
#140 – Te’Von Coney – LB – Notre Dame
#155 – Will Harris – S – Boston College
#170 – Drew Sample – TE - Washington

 

[Shanemansj13]

My other draft on DFFL board:

CLEVELAND BROWNS
2.49 : Taylor Rapp - S - Washington
3.80 : Tytus Howard - OT - Alabama State
4.119 : Drue Tranquill - OLB - Notre Dame
5.144 : Albert Huggins - DT - Clemson
5.155 : Drew Sample - TE - Washington
5.170 : Mike Jackson - CB - Miami FL
6.189 : Jordan Brailford - DE - Oklahoma St.
7.221 : Ryan Bates - OG - Penn St.

 

[Shanemansj13]

This didn't go the way I wanted honestly. Tried trading up in the 3rd to grab a safety earlier and they just kept flying off the board. I tried a 4th, 6th and 7th for another 3rd in this one.

2nd round
#49 – Rock Ya-Sin – CB - Temple

3rd round
#81 – Tytus Howard – OT – Alabama St.
#96 – L.J. Collier – DE - TCU

5th round
#140 – Te’Von Coney – LB – Notre Dame
#155 – Will Harris – S – Boston College
#170 – Drew Sample – TE - Washington

The pick before Sample some team took the TE from Ole Miss - Knox. Really like him.

 

[Across The Field]

My other draft on DFFL board:

CLEVELAND BROWNS
2.49 : Taylor Rapp - S - Washington
3.80 : Tytus Howard - OT - Alabama State
4.119 : Drue Tranquill - OLB - Notre Dame
5.144 : Albert Huggins - DT - Clemson
5.155 : Drew Sample - TE - Washington
5.170 : Mike Jackson - CB - Miami FL
6.189 : Jordan Brailford - DE - Oklahoma St.
7.221 : Ryan Bates - OG - Penn St.

Now this would not make me upset at all. Hell of a job.

 

[Shanemansj13]

Now this would not make me upset at all. Hell of a job.

Yeah I definitely thought this was my better of the two. A lot of good targets dropped to me in this one.

 

[Across The Field]

My other draft on DFFL board:

CLEVELAND BROWNS
2.49 : Taylor Rapp - S - Washington
3.80 : Tytus Howard - OT - Alabama State
4.119 : Drue Tranquill - OLB - Notre Dame
5.144 : Albert Huggins - DT - Clemson
5.155 : Drew Sample - TE - Washington
5.170 : Mike Jackson - CB - Miami FL
6.189 : Jordan Brailford - DE - Oklahoma St.
7.221 : Ryan Bates - OG - Penn St.

How's this for a thought:

BROWNS TRADE: 2019 2nd round pick (#49), 2019 5th round pick (#170), 2020 2nd round pick
TEXANS TRADE: 2019 1st round pick (#23)

Browns picks:
1. JEFFREY SIMMONS, DL, Miss St.
3. AMANI HOOKER, S, Iowa
4. ANTHONY NELSON, DE, Iowa
5. COREY BALLENTINE, CB, Washburn
5. TJ EDWARDS, LB, Wisconsin
6. MICHAEL JORDAN, OL, Ohio State
7. TRE WATSON, LB, Maryland

 

[Shanemansj13]

How's this for a thought:

BROWNS TRADE: 2019 2nd round pick (#49), 2019 5th round pick (#170), 2020 2nd round pick
TEXANS TRADE: 2019 1st round pick (#23)

Browns picks:
1. JEFFREY SIMMONS, DL, Miss St.
3. AMANI HOOKER, S, Iowa
4. ANTHONY NELSON, DE, Iowa
5. COREY BALLENTINE, CB, Washburn
5. TJ EDWARDS, LB, Wisconsin
6. MICHAEL JORDAN, OL, Ohio State
7. TRE WATSON, LB, Maryland

Yeah that is a trade a was thinking in my head. Giving up both 2nd (19 and 20). Seems reasonable to get back in the late 1st.

I think secondary is nice in this draft but after the 3rd round it drops off a bit. I would love for them to get a safety before the 4th. I love climbing up to get Simmons or possibly a CB.

 

[Shanemansj13]

How's this for a thought:

BROWNS TRADE: 2019 2nd round pick (#49), 2019 5th round pick (#170), 2020 2nd round pick
TEXANS TRADE: 2019 1st round pick (#23)

Browns picks:
1. JEFFREY SIMMONS, DL, Miss St.
3. AMANI HOOKER, S, Iowa
4. ANTHONY NELSON, DE, Iowa
5. COREY BALLENTINE, CB, Washburn
5. TJ EDWARDS, LB, Wisconsin
6. MICHAEL JORDAN, OL, Ohio State
7. TRE WATSON, LB, Maryland

Other guys I like at CB or De

CB's - David Long, Byron Murphy (trade up if we don't trade for Simmons)
DE - Maxx Crosby - this kid is freakishly athletic

 

[Across The Field]

Other guys I like at CB or De

CB's - David Long, Byron Murphy (trade up if we don't trade for Simmons)
DE - Maxx Crosby - this kid is freakishly athletic

I was thinking a lot about Crosby. He could have a hell of a career but he's still raw. Now, if he actually fills out and rounds out his skillset, he could be a Pro Bowl player.

I don't hate Long at all, but I'd rather have a guy like Deandre Baker a round earlier if possible. In all honesty, if Baker is there in the 2nd and we don't trade up, I would guess that's the pick. As a CB2, he could be a beast.