Chris Harris said Wilson is better than Luck

[Manning2Luck_uJelly]

You just said that the team had a 70% turnover in personnel plus a new coaching plus a new front office. Yet you still want to claim that the team was a 2-14 caliber team without Luck.

no, I said they went 2-14 without the greatest QB of all time.

 

[dkmightyhammer]

You just said that the team had a 70% turnover in personnel plus a new coaching plus a new front office. Yet you still want to claim that the team was a 2-14 caliber team without Luck.

That's a good point. If he's arguing that Luck took over a 2-14 team but also saying there was 70% player turnover then what does it matter? It's basically a different team and not the 2-14 team he took over.

 

[SonnyCID]

You just said that the team had a 70% turnover in personnel plus a new coaching plus a new front office. Yet you still want to claim that the team was a 2-14 caliber team without Luck.

Whatever works for their argument. If...but...excuse...conjecture...if...but.

Harris played both these guys in 3 weeks. Watch the interview, he's more than convinced.

 

[dkmightyhammer]

Luck>>>>Wilson....get over it already

Why? Because you said so? You need to show me some reason why Luck is better otherwise it's just your opinion.

 

[Manning2Luck_uJelly]

That's a good point. If he's arguing that Luck took over a 2-14 team but also saying there was 70% player turnover then what does it matter? It's basically a different team and not the 2-14 team he took over.

Luck just went 11-5 with a 70% turnover rate and a bunch of other rookies.

 

[Manning2Luck_uJelly]

Why? Because you said so? You need to show me some reason why Luck is better otherwise it's just your opinion.

The majority of people have the same opinion as mine. I don't need to waste my time trying to convince homer Hawk fans.

 

[BoBlake]

(Luck == Tannehill) << Wilson

 

[BoBlake]

The majority of people have the same opinion as mine. I don't need to waste my time trying to convince homer Hawk fans.

Logical fallacy. Appeal to majority. Do better.

 

[Manning2Luck_uJelly]

Logical fallacy. Appeal to majority. Do better.

as opposed to wasting my time convincing the minority?

 

[dkmightyhammer]

Luck just went 11-5 with a 70% turnover rate and a bunch of other rookies.

So what does that have to do with the "he took over a 2-14 team" excuse you keep using? Either he took over a 2-14 bad team or he took over a different team that was 70% rebuilt. Which one is it?

 

[Manning2Luck_uJelly]

So what does that have to do with the "he took over a 2-14 team" excuse you keep using? Either he took over a 2-14 bad team or he took over a different team that was 70% rebuilt. Which one is it?

I never said anything about taking over a 2-14 team....I merely pointed out the stupidity of people who think the Colts tanked. Of course I understand why they want to believe that....it's called envy

 

[dkmightyhammer]

From ESPN article:


Two weeks ago, we provided upon request a look at how Seattle's Russell Wilson and Indianapolis' Andrew Luck fared against seven common opponents.

The two impressive rookies have faced eight common opponents now that Seattle has also played the Buffalo Bills. The Seahawks and Colts have no additional common opponents during the regular season, which means we can now compare their season-long numbers against common opponents.

The chart shows Wilson with significant advantages in NFL passer rating (114.4 to 74.6) and Total QBR (84.8 to 68.1) against Chicago, Minnesota, Green Bay, the New York Jets, Miami, New England, Buffalo and Detroit. He has a 17-1 ratio of touchdown passes to interceptions in those games, compared to 14-13 for Luck. The ratio of total touchdowns to total turnovers is 20-3 for Wilson and 14-16 for Luck.

 

[BoBlake]

From ESPN article:


Two weeks ago, we provided upon request a look at how Seattle's Russell Wilson and Indianapolis' Andrew Luck fared against seven common opponents.

The two impressive rookies have faced eight common opponents now that Seattle has also played the Buffalo Bills. The Seahawks and Colts have no additional common opponents during the regular season, which means we can now compare their season-long numbers against common opponents.

The chart shows Wilson with significant advantages in NFL passer rating (114.4 to 74.6) and Total QBR (84.8 to 68.1) against Chicago, Minnesota, Green Bay, the New York Jets, Miami, New England, Buffalo and Detroit. He has a 17-1 ratio of touchdown passes to interceptions in those games, compared to 14-13 for Luck. The ratio of total touchdowns to total turnovers is 20-3 for Wilson and 14-16 for Luck.

I wonder if Tannehill did better among common opponents too?

 

[chf]

From ESPN article:


Two weeks ago, we provided upon request a look at how Seattle's Russell Wilson and Indianapolis' Andrew Luck fared against seven common opponents.

The two impressive rookies have faced eight common opponents now that Seattle has also played the Buffalo Bills. The Seahawks and Colts have no additional common opponents during the regular season, which means we can now compare their season-long numbers against common opponents.

The chart shows Wilson with significant advantages in NFL passer rating (114.4 to 74.6) and Total QBR (84.8 to 68.1) against Chicago, Minnesota, Green Bay, the New York Jets, Miami, New England, Buffalo and Detroit. He has a 17-1 ratio of touchdown passes to interceptions in those games, compared to 14-13 for Luck. The ratio of total touchdowns to total turnovers is 20-3 for Wilson and 14-16 for Luck.

That blanket is the wrong color blue, but is apparently Seattle's defence.

 

[flyerhawk]

I never said anything about taking over a 2-14 team....I merely pointed out the stupidity of people who think the Colts tanked. Of course I understand why they want to believe that....it's called envy

You responded to me with 2-14. Are you drunk already?

 

[gohusk]

You responded to me with 2-14. Are you drunk already?

There's no point arguing with this guy. He's been doing the same thing for years with Manning, which is bashing his teammates so his hero looks all the better. The only thing he's doing different is replacing 'Manning' with 'Luck'.

 

[SonnyCID]

There's no point arguing with this guy. He's been doing the same thing for years with Manning, which is bashing his teammates so his hero looks all the better. The only thing he's doing different is replacing 'Manning' with 'Luck'.

Except for when he was nut sucking manning he was clinging to the stats. Now he calls them irrelevant.

 

[sonnyblack65]

no, I said they went 2-14 without the greatest QB of all time.

Hahaha pure comedic gold. When did SF go 2-14 w/o Montana?

 

[Manning2Luck_uJelly]

Hahaha pure comedic gold. When did SF go 2-14 w/o Montana?

They didn't cuz Steve Young was better.

 

[sonnyblack65]

They didn't cuz Steve Young was better.

You said Greatest QB of all time who played for SF

Your not saying Young was better than Montana?