CBA Talks

[molsaniceman]

Major League Baseball officially instituted a lockout at 12:01 AM on Thursday morning when the league's Collective Bargaining Agreement expired at midnight on December 1.​

Commissioner Rob Manfred made the official announcement. "This defensive lockout was necessary because the Players Association’s vision for Major League Baseball would threaten the ability of most teams to be competitive. It’s simply not a viable option. From the beginning, the MLBPA has been unwilling to move from their starting position, compromise, or collaborate on solutions," he added in a statement. Both sides met several times earlier this week, but were unable to reach a new deal, which has led to baseball's first work stoppage since 1994-95. All major-league transactions, including free agent signings, trades and international free agent signings have been frozen. Stay tuned.

 

[The Q]

Major League Baseball officially instituted a lockout at 12:01 AM on Thursday morning when the league's Collective Bargaining Agreement expired at midnight on December 1.​

Commissioner Rob Manfred made the official announcement. "This defensive lockout was necessary because the Players Association’s vision for Major League Baseball would threaten the ability of most teams to be competitive. It’s simply not a viable option. From the beginning, the MLBPA has been unwilling to move from their starting position, compromise, or collaborate on solutions," he added in a statement. Both sides met several times earlier this week, but were unable to reach a new deal, which has led to baseball's first work stoppage since 1994-95. All major-league transactions, including free agent signings, trades and international free agent signings have been frozen. Stay tuned.

Anyone who believes that shit is a straight up retard

 

[molsaniceman]

MLB commissioner Rob Manfred said Thursday morning that there are no further meetings yet scheduled with the MLBPA.​

The owners and players failed to reach a new collective bargaining agreement ahead of the expiration of the old CBA at midnight on Wednesday, thus Major League Baseball is in its first work stoppage in 27 years via an owner-instituted lockout and transactions freeze. "People need pressure sometimes to get to an agreement," said Manfred. "But candidly we didn’t feel that sense of pressure on the other side during the course of this week. The only tool available to you under the act is to apply economic leverage. ... It is our desire to get back to the table as quickly as we can." Let the weeks -- months? -- of posturing begin

 

[RobToxin]

Just like a pitch five feet off the plate, Joe West thinks this is a strike.

 

[Cedrique]

So you're saying I Don't have to keep going to MLB Trade Rumors every 15 minutes to see which 32 year old reliever the Phillies picked up off the waiver wire?

 

[RobToxin]

 

[wazzu31]

We need an old time Manfred getting waxed. Analysts have poisoned the game which has infected all aspects of the sport and is going to be the thing hanging up a peaceful negotiations.

 

[thedddd]

 

[Tai Chi≈Surfing]

I trust things will get ironed out pretty soon.
It needs to be..as Spring training is only 5-6 weeks away.

 

[molsaniceman]

Bob Nightengale of USA Today reports that there are no negotiations currently scheduled between MLB and the MLBPA.​

This could obviously change at any time, but this underscores the fact that the lockout which began on Dec. 2 isn't likely to be settled in the near future. So far, the two sides have had a pair of meetings on "non-core economic issues." Evan Drellich of The Athletic reported in mid-December that MLB and the Players' Association were unlikely to discuss to discuss those core issues until January, so it's no surprise that things have gone quiet. There's a lot of ground to make up before spring training games are scheduled to begin in late-February.

 

[molsaniceman]

According to ESPN's Jeff Passan, the "reaction among players was not positive" to MLB's latest CBA proposal.​

The owners made this core economics proposal to the players' union as scheduled on Thursday, but it sounds like the details presented within did not serve to advance the negotiations to any substantial degree. If any degree at all. MLB proposed a higher minimum salary and more money for players with multiple years of service time, per Jon Heyman of Audacy Sports, but the overall offer was seen as "disappointing." Passan writes that the question now is "how soon the MLBPA counters" and adds that "spring training starting on time is in peril." As of this moment, pitchers and catchers are (very tentatively) scheduled to report to camps in Florida and Arizona around the middle of February. Opening Day is, also perhaps tentatively, set for March 31.

 

[VikingFan2k2]

According to ESPN's Jeff Passan, the "reaction among players was not positive" to MLB's latest CBA proposal.​

The owners made this core economics proposal to the players' union as scheduled on Thursday, but it sounds like the details presented within did not serve to advance the negotiations to any substantial degree. If any degree at all. MLB proposed a higher minimum salary and more money for players with multiple years of service time, per Jon Heyman of Audacy Sports, but the overall offer was seen as "disappointing." Passan writes that the question now is "how soon the MLBPA counters" and adds that "spring training starting on time is in peril." As of this moment, pitchers and catchers are (very tentatively) scheduled to report to camps in Florida and Arizona around the middle of February. Opening Day is, also perhaps tentatively, set for March 31.

 

[calsnowskier]

I believe that opening day will be delayed. Pain will need to be felt before any movement occurs.

That said, there was precisely zero chance that the MLBPA was going to “like” the owners initial offer. Initial offers are not intended to be liked by the other side.

And why didn’t the MLBPA offer a proposal?

 

[Tai Chi≈Surfing]

There could be some positive movement in the negotiations next week....

Sources: MLBPA to make counteroffer Monday

The MLB Players Association is expected to make a counteroffer to the league on Monday, 11 days after clubs gave the union a proposal, sources told ESPN.

www.espn.com

 

[Nasty_Magician]

 

[Tai Chi≈Surfing]

Some good news....

Sources: MLB, PA to continue talks amid progress

After a face-to-face meeting that lasted about two hours and saw some progress, Major League Baseball and the MLB Players Association plan to meet again Tuesday, sources told ESPN's Jeff Passan.

www.espn.com

 

[Tai Chi≈Surfing]

More ongoing CBA stuff....

Sources: MLB open to pre-arbitration bonus pool

MLB indicated for the first time that it is open to a pre-arbitration bonus pool during a labor meeting Tuesday with the players' association, but the sides remain far apart on how much should be distributed, according to sources.

www.espn.com

From the article:

Many in the industry believe an agreement needs to be reached by Feb. 1 in order for spring training camps to open on time. The union has prepared a "war chest" in case the lockout lingers. Players will receive $5,000 in the first week of February as well as the first week of March if a deal isn't struck.

The sides next plan to work on a dozen non-core economic issues, in order to end the lockout as soon as the major points are agreed upon.

 

[VikingFan2k2]

More ongoing CBA stuff....

Sources: MLB open to pre-arbitration bonus pool

MLB indicated for the first time that it is open to a pre-arbitration bonus pool during a labor meeting Tuesday with the players' association, but the sides remain far apart on how much should be distributed, according to sources.

www.espn.com

From the article:

This sounds bad and still sounds like they're miles apart.

770K minimum for rookie players? Does the NFL even do that?

 

[molsaniceman]

This sounds bad and still sounds like they're miles apart.

770K minimum for rookie players? Does the NFL even do that?

660 k in nfl but they sign contracts (lawrence got 4/24 mil)and mlb has arbitration which pays according to their performance
they all make too much

 

[molsaniceman]

660 k in nfl but they sign contracts (lawrence got 4/24 mil)and mlb has arbitration which pays according to their performance
they all make too much

this is last pick in 2021 nfl draft

in mlb they go to minors until called up making 400 to 750 a week then get minimum when called up and go thru arb for 5 years
top picks get signing bonuses #1 henry davis got 6 mil
need to prove yourself in mlb
jamarcus russell made 39 mil in nfl