Canucks summer 2013 blow'd up real good thread

[jstewismybastardson]

Is there really a substantial difference?

yah thats what i was trying to get at until dash's post #210 broke up my stream of posting consciousness...

Scrivens is pretty much the same as a bag of pucks

 

[mattola]

I can't believe it. My Worst nightmare as an Islanders fan could possibly happen. Apparently according to MacKenzie the Islanders would be interested in Luongo under the right circumstances if they can't resign Nabokov. Speculation of a Dipietro plus something else for Luongo deal. Vancouver would save something like 3M.

AAAARRRRGGGGHHHH!!!!

I'm going to go cry in a corner & pray that this doesn't happen now.

not that you would need this but I think I would have the start every conversation on this board with you with

LUONGO

even if was not about Luongo.... you would kind of deserve it




















LUONGO

 

[jstewismybastardson]

Botchford doing his best to convince aquilini to spend 20 mill to buyout Dipietro


In theory, there is some elegant symmetry to Roberto Luongo going back to where it all began.

That was in New York with the Islanders, the team that drafted him.

It was the 1999 training camp when Luongo made his first imprint on the NHL. He was marvellous in pre-season. At 21, he outplayed their No. 1 netminder, Felix Potvin.

Then-head coach Butch Goring vowed Luongo would be given a fair shot to be the starter. Not long after, he sent him down to the minors.

Luongo was devastated. A year later, he was traded.

You have to admit, the idea of him returning to the Island now, to Brooklyn in 2015, as a cornerstone piece in the attempted Islanders resurgence has a ring of destiny to it.


The Islanders desperately need a goalie. They were one good one away from knocking off the loaded Pittsburgh Penguins in the first round. The Islanders have a young, promising team with a superstar in John Tavares. What they don’t have is a goalie, unless you count Evgeni Nabokov, who is a pending unrestricted free agent. He’s a pending 38-year-old too.

The Islanders are the type of team which should be endlessly attractive to Luongo.

It’s also a team that could use another big name to help sell tickets in their new Brooklyn arena. Wouldn’t you know, the Canucks desperately need a trade partner.

It all seems kismet. So too does the timing of the NHL compliance buyouts. Teams are allowed two which won’t count against the salary cap.

The impoverished Islanders just happen to have one of the worst contracts in the league. That’s why two weeks ago, The Province posed the idea of trading Luongo to the Islanders for Rick DiPietro. The rich Canucks could buy out Dipietro’s contract, which has eight years left. The Islanders would send to Vancouver a package of prospects as a thank you. Maybe even 2010 fifth-overall pick Nino Niederreiter.

It would cost $24 million to buy out DiPietro, and it would paid $1.5 million a year for 16 years. On the surface, not bad. But it’s not our money.

It appears to be a great fit and TSN reported Thursday the Islanders would be open to a Luongo deal “under the right circumstances.” Yes, we’ve heard about “under right circumstance” interest before from other teams. And Luongo is still here.

The buyout idea is a wonderful theoretical one. But what’s great in theory, may not seem so great when you’re sitting in a board room with three Aquilini brothers explaining why it’s going to cost $24 million to trade Luongo for Niederreiter and two second-round draft picks.

These are owners who had a hard time swallowing the idea of paying big money to players like Brad Lukowich ($1.8 million salary) whose contracts were buried in the AHL.

That was in 2010.

In 2013, the Aquilinis have just had two straight playoffs where they’ve made little in extra revenue because of quick first-round exits.

The Globe and Mail’s Gary Mason even suggested this week on TEAM 1040 buyouts are a non-starter for Francesco Aquilini because of the financial implications.

That, I can tell you, is not the understanding of management.

But if the Aquilinis really are reluctant to buy out Keith Ballard because it would cost them $1.4 million a year for four years, how are they going to wrap their heads around paying $1.5 million a year for 16 years to cover Dipietro’s buyout?

Without DiPietro in the trade, it’s hard to imagine the Islanders taking on Luongo. Those are two massive contracts for a team that has been bleeding money for years.

Either way, the Canucks best shot at getting the most assets is to take a bad contract as part of a Luongo deal. Then, buy it out.

That’s why, if there is any hesitation, the Aquilinis need get over it if they remain “all in” on trying to win a Stanley Cup.

Going “all in” generally means out-spending the competition. The Canucks have an opportunity to use compliance buyouts to acquire assets. Yes, it requires ridiculous money, which may seem wasted when you could always put Luongo on waivers where it’s likely there’d be multiple claims. He’d move on, and it wouldn’t cost the team a dime.

But it was ownership who “advised” GM Mike Gillis to sign Luongo for as many years as possible. Gillis will never acknowledge it publicly. He signed the deal, it’s on him, in the end. That’s fair.

But ownership shares responsibility for getting into this one and they should be looking at sharing responsibility to get out.
Read more: Botchford: Could Luongo be Long Island bound? Islanders reportedly interested in former draft pick

 

[jstewismybastardson]

oh noes

News1130 Sports ‏@News1130Sports 4m I don't have confirmation but have been told to look into Wayne Gretzky getting interviewed by the #Canucks for their coaching vacancy.

 

[dash]

oh noes

News1130 Sports ‏@News1130Sports 4m I don't have confirmation but have been told to look into Wayne Gretzky getting interviewed by the #Canucks for their coaching vacancy.

Please make this happen

 

[jstewismybastardson]

Please make this happen

I have contacted the canucks and volunteered to do the reference checks on this Wayne Gretsky character

I shall probe his daughter Paulina

 

[mooger_35]

That would be a little over 15 years too late in bringing him to Vancouver.

 

[dash]

Damn you Dreger:

DarrenDreger: No truth to the rumour Wayne Gretzky has interviewed for coaching job in Vancouver. Word from both 99 and Canucks.

 

[DaBoltsNIsles]

Botchford doing his best to convince aquilini to spend 20 mill to buyout Dipietro


In theory, there is some elegant symmetry to Roberto Luongo going back to where it all began.

That was in New York with the Islanders, the team that drafted him.

It was the 1999 training camp when Luongo made his first imprint on the NHL. He was marvellous in pre-season. At 21, he outplayed their No. 1 netminder, Felix Potvin.

Then-head coach Butch Goring vowed Luongo would be given a fair shot to be the starter. Not long after, he sent him down to the minors.

Luongo was devastated. A year later, he was traded.

You have to admit, the idea of him returning to the Island now, to Brooklyn in 2015, as a cornerstone piece in the attempted Islanders resurgence has a ring of destiny to it.


The Islanders desperately need a goalie. They were one good one away from knocking off the loaded Pittsburgh Penguins in the first round. The Islanders have a young, promising team with a superstar in John Tavares. What they don’t have is a goalie, unless you count Evgeni Nabokov, who is a pending unrestricted free agent. He’s a pending 38-year-old too.

The Islanders are the type of team which should be endlessly attractive to Luongo.

It’s also a team that could use another big name to help sell tickets in their new Brooklyn arena. Wouldn’t you know, the Canucks desperately need a trade partner.

It all seems kismet. So too does the timing of the NHL compliance buyouts. Teams are allowed two which won’t count against the salary cap.

The impoverished Islanders just happen to have one of the worst contracts in the league. That’s why two weeks ago, The Province posed the idea of trading Luongo to the Islanders for Rick DiPietro. The rich Canucks could buy out Dipietro’s contract, which has eight years left. The Islanders would send to Vancouver a package of prospects as a thank you. Maybe even 2010 fifth-overall pick Nino Niederreiter.

It would cost $24 million to buy out DiPietro, and it would paid $1.5 million a year for 16 years. On the surface, not bad. But it’s not our money.

It appears to be a great fit and TSN reported Thursday the Islanders would be open to a Luongo deal “under the right circumstances.” Yes, we’ve heard about “under right circumstance” interest before from other teams. And Luongo is still here.

The buyout idea is a wonderful theoretical one. But what’s great in theory, may not seem so great when you’re sitting in a board room with three Aquilini brothers explaining why it’s going to cost $24 million to trade Luongo for Niederreiter and two second-round draft picks.

These are owners who had a hard time swallowing the idea of paying big money to players like Brad Lukowich ($1.8 million salary) whose contracts were buried in the AHL.

That was in 2010.

In 2013, the Aquilinis have just had two straight playoffs where they’ve made little in extra revenue because of quick first-round exits.

The Globe and Mail’s Gary Mason even suggested this week on TEAM 1040 buyouts are a non-starter for Francesco Aquilini because of the financial implications.

That, I can tell you, is not the understanding of management.

But if the Aquilinis really are reluctant to buy out Keith Ballard because it would cost them $1.4 million a year for four years, how are they going to wrap their heads around paying $1.5 million a year for 16 years to cover Dipietro’s buyout?

Without DiPietro in the trade, it’s hard to imagine the Islanders taking on Luongo. Those are two massive contracts for a team that has been bleeding money for years.

Either way, the Canucks best shot at getting the most assets is to take a bad contract as part of a Luongo deal. Then, buy it out.

That’s why, if there is any hesitation, the Aquilinis need get over it if they remain “all in” on trying to win a Stanley Cup.

Going “all in” generally means out-spending the competition. The Canucks have an opportunity to use compliance buyouts to acquire assets. Yes, it requires ridiculous money, which may seem wasted when you could always put Luongo on waivers where it’s likely there’d be multiple claims. He’d move on, and it wouldn’t cost the team a dime.

But it was ownership who “advised” GM Mike Gillis to sign Luongo for as many years as possible. Gillis will never acknowledge it publicly. He signed the deal, it’s on him, in the end. That’s fair.

But ownership shares responsibility for getting into this one and they should be looking at sharing responsibility to get out.
Read more: Botchford: Could Luongo be Long Island bound? Islanders reportedly interested in former draft pick

LOL!!

There's is NO WAY IN HELL the Islanders would put a top prospect like Nino in a deal for Luongo. Where do these Vancouver reporters get this crap? The Islanders would be the ones doing Vancouver a favor not the other way around. There are all kinds of goalies on the trade & UFA market. NOBODY wants Luongo's contract.

Another thing to keep in mind is Garth doesn't tell anybody shit. He keeps things close to the vest. Nobody saw the Visnovsky trade coming until it happened.

I'm not worried anymore. This is just the media making crap up.

 

[jstewismybastardson]

LOL!!

There's is NO WAY IN HELL the Islanders would put a top prospect like Nino in a deal for Luongo. Where do these Vancouver reporters get this crap? The Islanders would be the ones doing Vancouver a favor not the other way around. There are all kinds of goalies on the trade & UFA market. NOBODY wants Luongo's contract.

Another thing to keep in mind is Garth doesn't tell anybody shit. He keeps things close to the vest. Nobody saw the Visnovsky trade coming until it happened.

I'm not worried anymore. This is just the media making crap up.

you are legit drunk

the islanders would be getting a bad contract who can play ... yes Luongo can play ... i know you consider nabokov a better goalie but again refer to my point above

the canucks would be getting a bad contract who is a gimp that cant even walk down the street without threat of career ending injury

 

[rares]

you are legit drunk

the islanders would be getting a bad contract who can play ... yes Luongo can play ... i know you consider nabokov a better goalie but again refer to my point above

the canucks would be getting a bad contract who is a gimp that cant even walk down the street without threat of career ending injury

Pretty much 100% this. Nicely said.

 

[DevilishWon]

oh noes

News1130 Sports ‏@News1130Sports 4m I don't have confirmation but have been told to look into Wayne Gretzky getting interviewed by the #Canucks for their coaching vacancy.

Thats entertainment!

 

[DevilishWon]

Damn you Dreger:

DarrenDreger: No truth to the rumour Wayne Gretzky has interviewed for coaching job in Vancouver. Word from both 99 and Canucks.

Spoil sport

 

[DaBoltsNIsles]

you are legit drunk

the islanders would be getting a bad contract who can play ... yes Luongo can play ... i know you consider nabokov a better goalie but again refer to my point above

the canucks would be getting a bad contract who is a gimp that cant even walk down the street without threat of career ending injury

What are you talking about? I'm not saying the Islanders wouldn't add something to the deal, but there's no way they're going to give up a TOP PROSPECT. Don't worry if this happens the Canucks will get somebody like F David Ullstrom or F Jesse Joensuu added to it.

 

[DaBoltsNIsles]

you are legit drunk

the islanders would be getting a bad contract who can play ... yes Luongo can play ... i know you consider nabokov a better goalie but again refer to my point above

the canucks would be getting a bad contract who is a gimp that cant even walk down the street without threat of career ending injury

The Canucks would be getting over 5.3M in cap relief for as long as Luongo plays.

MacKenzie said the Isles might be interested if they can't work something out with Nabokov. The Vancouver reporter takes it so far over the top it's hilarious. All he's doing is speculating as to how the Canucks would get all these prospects including Niederreiter in the deal. What a bunch of CRAP.

If it happens it will be a bad contract for a bad contract with the Islanders adding a B or C level prospect or a draft pick.

 

[DevilishWon]

Reunion time...Luongo...Kvasha next? Parrish Rulez

 

[dash]

The Bolts have hired former Canucks associate coach Rick Bowness...

 

[mattola]

The Bolts have hired former Canucks associate coach Rick Bowness...

i like the sound of that

 

[dash]

Eklund rumo(u)r - Canucks are putting together a package for either Tampa Bay or Carolina in the hopes of obtaining the 3rd or 4th overall pick (the thought is that Gillis wants Nichushkin)

 

[mattola]

Eklund rumo(u)r - Canucks are putting together a package for either Tampa Bay or Carolina in the hopes of obtaining the 3rd or 4th overall pick (the thought is that Gillis wants Nichushkin)

we have nothing to offer for this what a fookin bafoon