C-19 Vaccinations

[skinsdad62]

What makes people filthy? Uncaring sure.

Why did Trump make that comment? The people from Norway are more capable of taking care of themselves and speak English…even though they have a horrible accent.

I think your slavery comment is crap. Explain in a PM?

Is the 19th supposed to correlate with slavery?

How can you tell if people have faxed up when the border is open?

It was far more deadly…it was a virus…it ran its course and ended.

Ok we are off the reservation now , time to end it on the public forum here and go to PMs , thanks in advance

 

[Stymietee]

What makes people filthy? Uncaring sure.

Why did Trump make that comment? The people from Norway are more capable of taking care of themselves and speak English…even though they have a horrible accent.

I think your slavery comment is crap. Explain in a PM?

Is the 19th supposed to correlate with slavery?

How can you tell if people have faxed up when the border is open?

It was far more deadly…it was a virus…it ran its course and ended.

Believe it or not people have to learn how to be clean, but cleanliness doesn't stop at environment, it's also a part of how we treat others and ourselves. Uncaring follows the same sets.

Sorry, it's the 13th amendment not 19th and it reads... The 13th Amendment, ratified in 1865, says: “Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.”

Easily the country has purchased millions of doses and are sending them overseas, continue to use some to vac. on the southern border just as we were doing this summer.

I think that we're agreeing on the virulence of the Spanish flu and how it ended.

Looks like we're going too far from the original topic, so this ends it for me. Thanks for the convo.!

 

[Stymietee]

Ok we are off the reservation now , time to end it on the public forum here and go to PMs , thanks in advance

OK, that was my last post.

 

[skinsdad62]

 

[skinsdad62]

Holy smokes. The CDC indirectly admits current PCR tests lack capability to differentiate between COVID-19 and standard influenza.

Remember when the seasonal flu went *poof* last year? I think we finally have our explanation...

 

[skinsdad62]

 

[Stymietee]

Holy smokes. The CDC indirectly admits current PCR tests lack capability to differentiate between COVID-19 and standard influenza.

Remember when the seasonal flu went *poof* last year? I think we finally have our explanation...


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See, this is what I'm referring to when I note disinformation. This is not an admission directly or indirectly of an inability to differentiate between C-19 and standard influenza. Take note of the year (2019) and understand testing methods are constantly being improved. Note use of "multiplex method that can facilitate detection and differentiation" which tells you that new testing methods results in better understanding of the markers associated with each (some are very similar) not that earlier tests (in this case 2019 versions) couldn't affirm the difference.

 

[gkekoa]

What an asshole looking out for people who don’t have a voice.

 

[gkekoa]

Holy smokes. The CDC indirectly admits current PCR tests lack capability to differentiate between COVID-19 and standard influenza.

Remember when the seasonal flu went *poof* last year? I think we finally have our explanation...


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I never knew this. Why hasnt this been publicized?

 

[gkekoa]

See, this is what I'm referring to when I note disinformation. This is not an admission directly or indirectly of an inability to differentiate between C-19 and standard influenza. Take note of the year (2019) and understand testing methods are constantly being improved. Note use of "multiplex method that can facilitate detection and differentiation" which tells you that new testing methods results in better understanding of the markers associated with each (some are very similar) not that earlier tests (in this case 2019 versions) couldn't affirm the difference.

I can’t see the year. When did the new tests come out? How did they know this in 2019?

 

[Stymietee]

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This shit needs to be investigated for criminal intent. It's rubbish and basic propaganda aimed at a troubled, misinformed audience.

So, let's be upfront on what this is intended to do... Incite conspiracy and further mistrust. The thing is I can prove it in my response.

We begin with the dating as presented. 2019 - 2020 Flu season (that's October 1, 2019 through April 4, 2020)

Wasn't there this little thing that happened beginning in November 2019 that elicited purchasing of masks, wipes, disinfectants and such? I seem to remember something, but I just can't precisely put my finger on it, hmmmmm???

Fast forward to the other dating presented 2020 - 2021 Flu season (that's October 1, 2020 through April 4, 2021) and note that during a pandemic in which millions of people are being cleaner, social distancing, wearing masks, and have gotten in the habit of being more physically cautious in ways rarely if ever before done during the flu season. Could it be possible that all of those preventive measures resulted in the smaller incidence of flu cases?

Perhaps the bigger question for this network is why weren't there more flu cases resulting from your bullshit!!?? I don't know who @FrAnK J. McCall is but one thing is certain. He watches Faux and is easily baffled!! (there's a a certain bit of uninformed irony to that don'tcha think??)

 

[skinsdad62]

This shit needs to be investigated for criminal intent. It's rubbish and basic propaganda aimed at a troubled, misinformed audience.

So, let's be upfront on what this is intended to do... Incite conspiracy and further mistrust. The thing is I can prove it in my response.

We begin with the dating as presented. 2019 - 2020 Flu season (that's October 1, 2019 through April 4, 2020)

Wasn't there this little thing that happened beginning in November 2019 that elicited purchasing of masks, wipes, disinfectants and such? I seem to remember something, but I just can't precisely put my finger on it, hmmmmm???

Fast forward to the other dating presented 2020 - 2021 Flu season (that's October 1, 2020 through April 4, 2021) and note that during a pandemic in which millions of people are being cleaner, social distancing, wearing masks, and have gotten in the habit of being more physically cautious in ways rarely if ever before done during the flu season. Could it be possible that all of those preventive measures resulted in the smaller incidence of flu cases?

Perhaps the bigger question for this network is why weren't there more flu cases resulting from your bullshit!!?? I don't know who @FrAnK J. McCall is but one thing is certain. He watches Faux and is easily baffled!! (there's a a certain bit of uninformed irony to that don'tcha think??)

where did the information come from originally ? and did those precautions turn the tide that much ? now i will grant you it did have some effect but that much ?

 

[skinsdad62]

I never knew this. Why hasnt this been publicized?

that information came from the CDC , combine that with my other post , also from the CDC , and you have to wonder . . but what was seen was fox news , run by liberals now and have been for quite some time

the CDC also provided the mask thing at 0.9 to 1.9 % effective

i didnt post the fauci clips but there is a key reason why there is so mistrust

and again i only used stuff linked to the CDC not anything political but their numbers

 

[Stymietee]

I can’t see the year. When did the new tests come out? How did they know this in 2019?

Differential tests have been around for years. (including 2019) Better tests are developed all of the time just to keep up with mutations and the resulting differing strains of a particular virus. Keep in mind that viruses mutate and as such markers once recognized as thing one become more related to thing two or those same markers are confirmed to be as originally identified because of the mutations. (Note that SARS is a family of respiratory viruses)

I never knew this. Why hasnt this been publicized?

Well, the questioning and noise around it from top to bottom is all bullshit!

 

[skinsdad62]

This is coming from the horses mouth . He is all over the place and this is one reason trusting what is coming out of the CDC is so hard to do .

this is the so called expert , the gold standard

now a question has to be asked , why wasn’t the flu in earlier years not aggressively fought like Covid 19 ? These solutions were out there for years.

the data world wide and In the Us based on numbers we have show you have a 99.9% chance of not getting Covid or getting it and surviving it

Now what is more likely based on what the CDC put out , that masks , social distancing and sanitation wiped out the flu or could it be the tests couldn’t differentiate the flu from Covid ?

 

[Stymietee]

where did the information come from originally ? and did those precautions turn the tide that much ? now i will grant you it did have some effect but that much ?

Yeah, that much!

This is coming from the horses mouth . He is all over the place and this is one reason trusting what is coming out of the CDC is so hard to do .

this is the so called expert , the gold standard

now a question has to be asked , why wasn’t the flu in earlier years not aggressively fought like Covid 19 ? These solutions were out there for years.

the data world wide and In the Us based on numbers we have show you have a 99.9% chance of not getting Covid or getting it and surviving it

Now what is more likely based on what the CDC put out , that masks , social distancing and sanitation wiped out the flu or could it be the tests couldn’t differentiate the flu from Covid ?

Geeez!

 

[Stymietee]

I'm actually done with this topic. I've asked that the entire thread be removed for the reasons given, but the disinformation continues.

 

[gkekoa]

This shit needs to be investigated for criminal intent. It's rubbish and basic propaganda aimed at a troubled, misinformed audience.

So, let's be upfront on what this is intended to do... Incite conspiracy and further mistrust. The thing is I can prove it in my response.

We begin with the dating as presented. 2019 - 2020 Flu season (that's October 1, 2019 through April 4, 2020)

Wasn't there this little thing that happened beginning in November 2019 that elicited purchasing of masks, wipes, disinfectants and such? I seem to remember something, but I just can't precisely put my finger on it, hmmmmm???

Fast forward to the other dating presented 2020 - 2021 Flu season (that's October 1, 2020 through April 4, 2021) and note that during a pandemic in which millions of people are being cleaner, social distancing, wearing masks, and have gotten in the habit of being more physically cautious in ways rarely if ever before done during the flu season. Could it be possible that all of those preventive measures resulted in the smaller incidence of flu cases?

Perhaps the bigger question for this network is why weren't there more flu cases resulting from your bullshit!!?? I don't know who @FrAnK J. McCall is but one thing is certain. He watches Faux and is easily baffled!! (there's a a certain bit of uninformed irony to that don'tcha think??)

Yes…we used more PPE. Japan also had a tremendous decrease…don’t they wear masks?

Smaller cases definitely. Near zero…doubtful.

 

[gkekoa]

I'm actually done with this topic. I've asked that the entire thread be removed for the reasons given, but the disinformation continues.

Information…information. It isn’t disinformation simply because you do not like it. Just because some people make claims, even if they are scientists and doctors, does not make them true. Much of this stuff is unproven…it doesn’t make it false.

 

[gkekoa]

Differential tests have been around for years. (including 2019) Better tests are developed all of the time just to keep up with mutations and the resulting differing strains of a particular virus. Keep in mind that viruses mutate and as such markers once recognized as thing one become more related to thing two or those same markers are confirmed to be as originally identified because of the mutations. (Note that SARS is a family of respiratory viruses)

Well, the questioning and noise around it from top to bottom is all bullshit!

OK great. Was there a differential test in November 2019 between the flu and Covid? If so, why did the CDC bother with their state,ent dad posted.

Yes virus’ mutate. They always have.