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Bruce Arians is a whiny bitch

chf

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You gonna be OK, bandwagon boy?

If my ancient bandwagon bones can take it. Sure. Got a touch of the gout. How you doing junior?
 

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Huh? If he's within a yard then he's offside. Was he offside? No, because he timed the jump to not be offside.
The rules were written to

1. protect the snapper.
2. keep teams from vaulting players into the air to block kicks.

Wagner, and a couple of years back Kam, didn't do either.

Within a yard means you can't be at the LOS over the snapper. If he timed it to jump when the ball was snapped, he was at the LOS. Penalty.
 

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Completely agree.

I am not one to complain about the fans but I have definitely noticed an distractingly high number of penalties being called in games this year. Specifically holding calls and PI calls.

Players should stop holding and committing pass interference.

Watching Aqib Talib's supposed "excellent coverage" on Monday night revealed that he gets away with a LOT of grabbing. That's often the real difference between good corners and bad corners; the good ones don't get flagged when they hold.
 

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Players should stop holding and committing pass interference.

Watching Aqib Talib's supposed "excellent coverage" on Monday night revealed that he gets away with a LOT of grabbing. That's often the real difference between good corners and bad corners; the good ones don't get flagged when they hold.

Not allowing any contact between receivers and corners will not improve the quality of the game.
 

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Contact and grabbing are two very different things.

Sure but both players do some grabbing to gain an advantage. If we allow contact we have to accept that some hand grabbing is going to occur.
 

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Players should stop holding and committing pass interference.

Watching Aqib Talib's supposed "excellent coverage" on Monday night revealed that he gets away with a LOT of grabbing. That's often the real difference between good corners and bad corners; the good ones don't get flagged when they hold.
That's because they aren't blatant about it. A grab here, a tug of the jersey there, where the officials can't see it. That's how corners play defense. If you disallow any touching of the receivers you've just turned the NFL into the arena league where teams pretty much score every time they have the ball.

The best corners in the league have long used their hands and position to disrupt routes and timing.
 

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Within a yard means you can't be at the LOS over the snapper. If he timed it to jump when the ball was snapped, he was at the LOS. Penalty.

C'mon now. How is that remotely logical? Whether you're standing on the ground or are 5 ft above it, you're either within a yard of the line of scrimmage at the snap, or you're not.

If he times his jump to start his jump at the snap, then no, he's NOT at the LOS. Same as if he's timing a blitz, either you time it right or you don't.

If the center pauses the hike a quarter second, then yep, he's off-sides.

The line judge looks DOWN THE LINE.

Wagner, on the ground or airborne, is either over the LOS or he's not. He's either offsides or he's not.
 

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All it will take to stop this is a center popping up and spearing Wagner in the family jewels.
 

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All it will take to stop this is a center popping up and spearing Wagner in the family jewels.
I wanted that to happen so bad the other night.


Hoping he actually gets his sack ripped open.
 

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Wags is badass.
Sorry.
 

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Yup, used to love Arians

Now between his whining every game, and having that constant whiny look on his face on the sidelines seemingly every single time he is on camera

I agree
yeah, what happened to him? Maybe the stress of not doing so well?
 

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That leaping FG block was pretty much the only exciting play that happened the entire night. How is it bad for football Bruce?

Like Sherman said, there is no reason to change the rule since all Palmer had to do was make his cadence less predictable and Wagner wouldn't have been able to time his jump so perfectly.
:wtf:
Palmer was calling the cadence from the sideline for the FG?!?
 

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lol, you got me. My bad.

None the less, Sherman did say they knew the cadence of whoever was calling it.
Won't deny that something clearly needed to change.
 
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