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[dtgold88]

I admitted I was wrong about that Freddie issue. Yet that's still not good enough for you. Funny you made your own reality up about my thoughts of the Hunt signing though. Yet you won't acknowlegde that. Or how you won't say anything about your defense of him in that hotel.

I had to show you the proof about Freddie at least a handful of times before you did anything other than deflect. And still all you really did was say whatever and deflected to Hunt. Go ahead and find the proof I made something up about you and your comments on Hunt if you think I did.

I had an issue with you worried about future off field issues? I said "if he does, then they can release him. No risk".

I actually did some checking and seems your biggest issue was with myles.

since you like deflection should we also talk about you thinking a RB coach had his own playbook? Priceless.

 

[Wamu]

I had to show you the proof about Freddie at least a handful of times before you did anything other than deflect. And still all you really did was say whatever and deflected to Hunt. Go ahead and find the proof I made something up about you and your comments on Hunt if you think I did.

I had an issue with you worried about future off field issues? I said "if he does, then they can release him. No risk".

I actually did some checking and seems your biggest issue was with myles.

since you like deflection should we also talk about you thinking a RB coach had his own playbook? Priceless.

You live in Ohio. I don't anymore. So you hear much more Browns stuff that I do on a daily/weekly/monthly basis.

Biggest issue was with Myles? Okay time for you to provide the thread & comment #'s about that. You won't though. All I've said about him was he lost his mind when he tried to KO Rudolph with his helmet. I'll be waiting for you to name the thread & comments you're accusing me of. And don't change the subject. But I'd bet money you'll have nothing more to say about you claiming my biggest issue was with him.

So you ignore your defense of Hunt in that hotel & now have made up my biggest issue was with Myles. Do you ever stop making up your own reality?

 

[dtgold88]

You live in Ohio. I don't anymore. So you hear much more Browns stuff that I do on a daily/weekly/monthly basis.

Biggest issue was with Myles? Okay time for you to provide the thread & comment #'s about that. You won't though. All I've said about him was he lost his mind when he tried to KO Rudolph with his helmet. I'll be waiting for you to name the thread & comments you're accusing me of. And don't change the subject. But I'd bet money you'll have nothing more to say about you claiming my biggest issue was with him.

So you ignore your defense of Hunt in that hotel & now have made up my biggest issue was with Myles. Do you ever stop making up your own reality?

Myles the poster, not player. One was #136 in Browns are SB Favorites thread

So nothing on me making up a reality on Hunt? Thought so.

 

[Wamu]

Myles the poster, not player.

So nothing on me making up a reality on Hunt? Thought so.

Okay that's what it is. Sure I have an issue with him. You're insane. Let me guess. Whatever you're talking about I didn't agree with what he was saying. And you turned it into me having an issue with him. You know, the same stupid game you always play.

And I stand by what I said. So you're saying you didn't think what Hunt did in that hotel was that bad? Just like when I originally said I wasn't a fan of Hunt's & you tried to turn it into me saying he should never play in the NFL again. You make things up just to argue.

 

[dtgold88]

Okay that's what it is. Sure I have an issue with him. You're insane. Let me guess. Whatever you're talking about I didn't agree with what he was saying. And you turned it into me having an issue with him. You know, the same stupid game you always play.

And I stand by what I said. So you're saying you didn't think what Hunt did in that hotel was that bad? Just like when I originally said I wasn't a fan of Hunt's & you tried to turn it into me saying he should never play in the NFL again. You're a bullshit artist who makes things up just to argue.

No, I'm thinking IN THIS INSTANCE your issue regarding Hunt was more with him than me....like I said.

I think the same then as I have told you now. Kick was certainly unnecessary. Pushing her off him after she came at him (and after she was asked to leave by most there)? Not such a big deal. Neither was worthy of never working again.

And, of course, I said it's a low risk move by Dorsey..if he gets into any more trouble they could cut him.

But go ahead and make some stuff up to make it fit better for you as it seems to be your M.O. if you'd like.

Oh...and you thought a RB coach had his own playbook.

 

[Wamu]

No, I'm thinking IN THIS INSTANCE your issue regarding Hunt was more with him than me....like I said.

I think the same then as I have told you now. Kick was certainly unnecessary. Pushing her off him after she came at him (and after she was asked to leave by most there)? Not such a big deal. Neither was worthy of never working again.

And, of course, I said it's a low risk move by Dorsey..if he gets into any more trouble they could cut him.

But go ahead and make some stuff up to make it fit better for you as it seems to be your M.O. if you'd like.

Oh...and you thought a RB coach had his own playbook.

Okay my bad. You're always right. I get it. This is what you do. I'll just interact with you differently from now on. Put you in the same category as wiggy. A delusional person who's just a bit weird. Although it's funny you & wiggy are from Cleveland. What the fuck's in the water there?

Not a bid deal huh? She came at him? Just watched the video again. She was standing still & said something. Then Hunt pushed her. Later in the video she was knocked down (not by Hunt in case you try to accuse me of saying that). Then she stood up & knelt down. Hunt then turn around & kicked her. Damn, even when there's clear video of it you make your own reality up.

 

[dtgold88]

Okay my bad. You're always right. I get it. This is what you do. I'll just interact with you differently from now on. Put you in the same category as wiggy. A delusional person who's just a bit weird. Although it's funny you & wiggy are from Cleveland. What the fuck's in the water there?

Not a bid deal huh? She came at him? Just watched the video again. She was standing still & said something. Then Hunt pushed her. Later in the video she was knocked down (not by Hunt in case you try to accuse me of saying that). Then she stood up & knelt down. Hunt then turn around & kicked her. Damn, even when there's clear video of it you make your own reality up.

Nope...never said always right. But in my comments about Freddie/Seahawks, whose offense was used last year for Baker and this situation? Yep. I am right.

Hunt pushed her to get away from him. And you are correct...didn't knock her down. No biggie. Kick? That was a bad look and he was wrong. As I've never disputed. all I ever said - and please take note of this so you don't forget - is nothing he did was worthy of not working again. No risk signing. Doesn't work out? Release him.

seems you don't really dispute that, but go ahead and tell me I misquoted you or made something up with no proof. It's what you do.

And tell me again how a RB coach had his own playbook. Sorry to keep repeating this, but it cracks me up you believed it.

 

[Wamu]

Nope...never said always right. But in my comments about Freddie/Seahawks, whose offense was used last year for Baker and this situation? Yep. I am right.

Hunt pushed her to get away from him. And you are correct...didn't knock her down. No biggie. Kick? That was a bad look and he was wrong. As I've never disputed. all I ever said - and please take note of this so you don't forget - is nothing he did was worthy of not working again. No risk signing. Doesn't work out? Release him.

seems you don't really dispute that, but go ahead and tell me I misquoted you or made something up with no proof. It's what you do.

And tell me again how a RB coach had his own playbook. Sorry to keep repeating this, but it cracks me up you believed it.

Hey wiggy 2.0 speaking of repeating, repeating, repeating yourself

deflection, deflection, deflection

gotta love this forum, gotta love this forum, gotta love this forum

I gave Freddie's playbook no thought because I was disgusted he was hired in the first place.

Now dance puppet, dance puppet, dance puppet

 

[dtgold88]

Hey wiggy 2.0 speaking of repeating, repeating, repeating yourself

deflection, deflection, deflection

gotta love this forum, gotta love this forum, gotta love this forum

I gave Freddie's playbook no thought because I was disgusted he was hired in the first place.

Now dance puppet, dance puppet, dance puppet

tell me again how a RB coach had his own playbook. Sorry to keep repeating this, but it cracks me up you believed it.

 

[Wamu]

tell me again how a RB coach had his own playbook. Sorry to keep repeating this, but it cracks me up you believed it.

I didn't believe anything. And never once did I say or think he had his own playbook. I told you yesterday I gave no thought to Freddie's playbook because I was disgusted he was hired in the first place. But in typical fashion you choose to ignore what I said. Just part of the childish games you play on a daily basis.

 

[dtgold88]

Cowher. Now I'd love it if he was the next coach. But I don't see that happening either. I'm not a fan of NFL teams hiring CFB coaches with zero NFL experience. But I'd rather have Meyer than McDaniels.

My fear is it's the Browns. And I can see that idiot Haslam making the wrong coaching & GM hire.

Haslem critics if we hire McDaniels - "This was Haslems choice, No one else even considered. Browns being Browns"

Haslem critics if we don't hire McD - "Jimmy couldn't even get his first choice. Browns being Browns"

Agree on Cowher and also agree doubtful...but I guess a call can't hurt.

Also believe no reason to trust Jimmy, but issues in past were he hired guys who did not want to work together. This time they will CHOOSE to be together.

 

[dtgold88]

I didn't believe anything. And never once did I say or think he had his own playbook. I told you yesterday I gave no thought to Freddie's playbook because I was disgusted he was hired in the first place. But in typical fashion you choose to ignore what I said. Just part of the childish games you play on a daily basis.

you - "Mayfield didn't set any rookie records in Haley's offense. He set them in Freddie's offense. Which is why he got the HC job."

What did you think Freddie's offense was? You said not Haley's playbook, so.........?

He had his own offense but no playbook?

Never change.

 

[dtgold88]

Sure, they don't have the best track record. They already missed out on the guy I thought should've been their target (Rivera). They need a no-nonsense guy to keep those egos in line and focused. We've already seen what McDaniels can do outside of the Patriots (and you certainly don't want him picking players).

Dave Toub was a hot name a few years back until the Chiefs made him assistant head coach. He's a leader type without being strictly an offensive or defensive guy and has been under the radar since. I'm curious as to what he could do.

Of course, being an Ohio team means that Urban Meyer will be in the rumors (for better or worse, tough to tell coming from college, but he at least is a local favorite). I don't think Cowher will ever return to coaching at this point. Maybe you can lure foot specialist Rex Ryan out of the booth? There's always the usual crop of strong coordinators, but the concept of getting the hot OC/DC who's already brand new at that level is very hit/miss, and the head coaching job essentially takes them out of the role they're excelling in.

I was very anti-Mcdaniels until hearing what Albert Breer and Charles Robinson have each said in past 2 months. I've come around.

Did get Denver to playoffs and won a game with Tebow and Orton at QB. Though I think he traded UP to get Tebow so agree he cannot be the guy picking players (though to be fair, Belichick was pretty bad at this his first time around, too).

Truth be told, I think all "types" are hit and miss - successful HC retreads, unsuccessful HC retreads, OCs, DCs, college coaches, etc.

Really is no blueprint to get it right.

 

[shopson67]

you - "Mayfield didn't set any rookie records in Haley's offense. He set them in Freddie's offense. Which is why he got the HC job."

What did you think Freddie's offense was? You said not Haley's playbook, so.........?

He had his own offense but no playbook?

Never change.

Kitchens only ran the offense the second half of the season; before that he was the RB coach (and had never been anything higher than a position coach (mostly RB/TE, QB with Arizona) in college or the NFL previously. Safe to say there was a lot of Haley's offense in Freddie's.

 

[Wamu]

you - "Mayfield didn't set any rookie records in Haley's offense. He set them in Freddie's offense. Which is why he got the HC job."

What did you think Freddie's offense was? You said not Haley's playbook, so.........?

He had his own offense but no playbook?

Never change.

Holy shit are you stubborn. Again (even before I made that comment) I didn't know or care which offense Freddie was running. But keep hapring on something I paid zero attention to. I didn't realize he ran Haley's offense last year until you mentioned it yesterday. But keep repeating over & over I didn't know which offense he was running because again I didn't care.

You always tell people never change. Well it's obvious you never will. Even when an explanation is given to you you still insist on playing your little games. I never thought I'd say this. But in some ways you're worse than wiggy. You should be very proud of that.

 

[dtgold88]

Kitchens only ran the offense the second half of the season; before that he was the RB coach (and had never been anything higher than a position coach (mostly RB/TE, QB with Arizona) in college or the NFL previously. Safe to say there was a lot of Haley's offense in Freddie's.

Seems more likely there was more Monken as he was his OC, but probably some from Haley.

Whatever it was it didn't work.

 

[dtgold88]

Holy shit are you stubborn. Again (even before I made that comment) I didn't know or care which offense Freddie was running. But keep hapring on something I paid zero attention to. I didn't realize he ran Haley's offense last year until you mentioned it yesterday. But keep repeating over & over I didn't know which offense he was running because again I didn't care.

You always tell people never change. Well it's obvious you never will. Even when an explanation is given to you you still insist on playing your little games. I never thought I'd say this. But in some ways you're worse than wiggy. You should be very proud of that.

Didn't need to pay attention to know a RB coach does not have his own offense, but whatever.

All positions but ours are filled now. That's a real good thing as we cannot be used for leverage.

 

[shopson67]

Seems more likely there was more Monken as he was his OC, but probably some from Haley.

Whatever it was it didn't work.

I meant the year prior, when Baker was more effective.

 

[dtgold88]

I meant the year prior, when Baker was more effective.

That was my point.....of course when he was a rookie it was not Kitchens' offense (it was Haley's as you said). He was the RB coach. No RB coach has his own offense (who has never been more than a position coach).

 

[Battlelyon]