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Biggest winners out of the 2019 draft...

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I really thought Culver would have been a good fit next to Zion.

They had their pick Hunter, Culver or Garland instead they swapped it for basically role players...thought they had a great opportunity there. OVerall, still love the moves Griffin has made but I thought he thought about that move too much. Gilbert/Kobe would have drafted a guy at 4 lol
 

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No... you only brought ...Paul George up, (for no reason what so ever) which proves you to be A DEPTHLESS SHITWHOLE with which your breath's smell can only be relevant!

I mentioned Paul George because you said he'll be a Buck next year. I was making fun of you. Which is even funnier now because I had to explain it to you.
 

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No... you only brought ...Paul George up, (for no reason what so ever) which proves you to be A DEPTHLESS SHITWHOLE with which your breath's smell can only be relevant!
I absolutely love the way this guy cusses and talks smack
 

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No... you only brought ...Paul George up, (for no reason what so ever) which proves you to be A DEPTHLESS SHITWHOLE with which your breath's smell can only be relevant!

OKC is expected to trade one out of Westbrook or Paul George this season in an attempt to go below the lux tax, because they will save more than 60M if they can achieve to go below the lux tax! (that is 60.000.000 in case you thought that it was a typo) They pay that much, because other than the lux tax, they have to pay on top a severe penalty for being above the lux tax for too long!

Now, if they get one of their "big" contracts traded, the most they van save is up to only 8M which is no where what they need as to go below the lux tax...

But... If they trade Paul George for George Hill and Tony Snell in a "sign and trade" for Hill, then the contracts they take back save them some 16M (!!!) which is what they need to go below the Tax line and save the 60M they would otherwise have to pay... Now why do I see Paul George ending a Buck next season?

You have mentioned PG many times you fucking liar. First off, OKC is not expected to trade one of their two stars, never was. Just one of your many asinine posts.

Now kindly go STFU
 

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They had their pick Hunter, Culver or Garland instead they swapped it for basically role players...thought they had a great opportunity there. OVerall, still love the moves Griffin has made but I thought he thought about that move too much. Gilbert/Kobe would have drafted a guy at 4 lol
Gee.... this guy is trying to talk basketball for the first time ever...

It seems my method works...

Back to the subject (and talking basketball)...

Don't you forget the Pels already have Christian Wood locked in their roster?

They already had a full roster on Holiday, Hurt, Ingram, Zion and Wood and even some depth on Ball and Randle...

Besides, they've gotten rid of Hill's contract and thus, they have the cap space to add another out of free agency...

So, what they needed Garland for? He would be ideal for a team that is desperate to add a starting PG, no?

The Pels aren't looking to upgrade the starting roster with a rookie anymore... They can do so via a trade in the position they need, so they added more pieces next to Ball and Randle for their bench and future...
 

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Please ignore the troll,

What puzzles me with the Cavs, is why they got another PG for their rebuild... do you know?

I mean, aren't you satisfied with Sexton? ...and obviously Clarkson can share his time between 1&2... Delly is obviously not a piece one can rebuit upon, but he is OK for "deep roster" and the 7~8 mins he'll be called to provide breaths... Why you missed Dumbouya beats me!
They just went BPA....they'll figure out fit later.
 

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A Team that is getting too much credit

Pelicans - they got Hayes and NAW, which is fine but they had a chance to put a star next to Zion right now. They just have a bunch of nice role players now around a guy that could be a star but it's based off athleticism. The Pelicans could have drafted Zion THEN Garland, a playmaking, lethal PG. It would have been a great fit but it seems like love Lonzo that much.
People really love them some Griffin for some reason. What move did the guy make that was most responsible for the Cavs title? Had nothing to do with Lebron......Love was acquired with assets and cap space he did not acquire or clear. Kyrie acquired with pick Gilbert was willing to buy (by spending on Davis' contract).

What pick has the guy ever made that has become anything as of now?

Did he acquire a bunch of first rounders? Yep....also gave up an MVP caliber player to do it. Know how hard it is to acquire first rounders? Altman traded Hill, Stauskas and 3 second rounders for Knight, Delly, Henson and 3 first rounders.

I do like the guy and his deals might work out, but so far he has not acquired anyone Lebron would want to play with or would be a #2 or #3 on a title team.
 

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Was hoping Hunter until was clear Atlanta was taking him, but if they think he was the best player then sure.
Yeah... but you and then many others missed... Dumbouya! ...who may prove to be an "one in a lifetime pick" and worthed the risk...

I mean he is the only one out of this year's draft that reminds one that knows much about the game of Giannis... 18 years old, totally raw, doesn't know basics of basketball, but has it in his blood and has better insticts than Zion...

What surprises me even more, is that your coach (who was responsible for Giannis learning the basics of the game so quickly) didn't step up and fight for picking him up...
 

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Ok... let me ask you this in return... How many 3&D (other than on a rookie contract) you know that have Snell's per 36 numbets and will only do 12.4M next season? ...can you name one? ONE will do...

Are you serious here?

Snell's numbers aren't good.

Per 36 for Snell = 12.3 PPG, 4.3 Rebs, 1.9 assists with 58.5% true shooting and 10.7 PER

Here are a few who are making less $ with their per 36 #s

Josh Richardson: 10.8 million
17.1 PoInts, 3.7 RBG, 4.1 assists, 53.6 %TS and 14 PER

Jerami Grant: 9.0 million
15 POints, 5.7 Rebs, 1.1 assists, 59.2 TS and 13.8 PER

Jae CRowder: 7.8 million
15.8 points, 6.4 rebs, 2.2 assists, 53.1 TS and 12.1 PER

PJ Tucker: 8.3 million
Numbers are worse than Snell, but he plays almost 40 minutes a game for a good team and makes less $

Robert Covington: 11.3 Million
13.9 points, 5.8 rebs, 1.4 assists, 58% TS and 14.7 PER

Joe Ingles: 11.4 Million
13.9 points, 4.6 Rebs, 6.6 assists, 58.1 TS and 13.4 PER

Norman Powell: 10.1 million
16.5 points, 4.4 rebs, 2.9 assists, 59.6 TS and 13.3 PER

Joe Harris: 7.7 million
16.3 points, 4.6 REbs, 2.8 assists, 64.5 TS and 13.5 PER

That is 8 3 and D wings I found in about 10 minutes of research under contract on vet deals making less than Snell and producing more.

Epic fail by you.

Again.
 

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Are you serious here?

Snell's numbers aren't good.

Per 36 for Snell = 12.3 PPG, 4.3 Rebs, 1.9 assists with 58.5% true shooting and 10.7 PER

Here are a few who are making less $ with their per 36 #s

Josh Richardson: 10.8 million
17.1 PoInts, 3.7 RBG, 4.1 assists, 53.6 %TS and 14 PER

Jerami Grant: 9.0 million
15 POints, 5.7 Rebs, 1.1 assists, 59.2 TS and 13.8 PER

Jae CRowder: 7.8 million
15.8 points, 6.4 rebs, 2.2 assists, 53.1 TS and 12.1 PER

PJ Tucker: 8.3 million
Numbers are worse than Snell, but he plays almost 40 minutes a game for a good team and makes less $

Robert Covington: 11.3 Million
13.9 points, 5.8 rebs, 1.4 assists, 58% TS and 14.7 PER

Joe Ingles: 11.4 Million
13.9 points, 4.6 Rebs, 6.6 assists, 58.1 TS and 13.4 PER

Norman Powell: 10.1 million
16.5 points, 4.4 rebs, 2.9 assists, 59.6 TS and 13.3 PER

Joe Harris: 7.7 million
16.3 points, 4.6 REbs, 2.8 assists, 64.5 TS and 13.5 PER

That is 8 3 and D wings I found in about 10 minutes of research under contract on vet deals making less than Snell and producing more.

Epic fail by you.

Again.

Snell is bench trash. Anyone with a brain knows this lol
 

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The Pelicans did well. Got Zion of course but made some other moves to really improve their team.
 

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Carlos Rodgers
Vonteego Cummings
Todd Fuller
Ike Diogu
Patrick O'Bryant
Anthony Randolph

LOLZ. Just got depressed for a second.

Man I loved vonteego at Pitt. He was a stud
 

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Cavs - this is a question mark but no doubt they grabbed a lot of talent and had a great draft.

Grizz - got a nice haul for Conley. Got they future PG and Brandon Clarke, who I think can be a nice piece. Kinda wish they would have picked up a shooter though.

Hawks - Gave up a good amount to trade up but they got their lockdown defender and 3 pt guy in Hunter. They added Reddish, who is boom or bust. This team is on the rise and we could be talking about them in the next couple years being the next Warriors if things fall into place.

Winners nobody is talking about

Celtics - actually like their picks

LOSERS

Suns - for way too many reasons


A Team that is getting too much credit

Pelicans - they got Hayes and NAW, which is fine but they had a chance to put a star next to Zion right now. They just have a bunch of nice role players now around a guy that could be a star but it's based off athleticism. The Pelicans could have drafted Zion THEN Garland, a playmaking, lethal PG. It would have been a great fit but it seems like love Lonzo that much.

Grizz signed a killer shooter and analytics darling in konchar as an UDFA.
 

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Are you serious here?

Snell's numbers aren't good.

Per 36 for Snell = 12.3 PPG, 4.3 Rebs, 1.9 assists with 58.5% true shooting and 10.7 PER

Here are a few who are making less $ with their per 36 #s

Josh Richardson: 10.8 million
17.1 PoInts, 3.7 RBG, 4.1 assists, 53.6 %TS and 14 PER

Jerami Grant: 9.0 million
15 POints, 5.7 Rebs, 1.1 assists, 59.2 TS and 13.8 PER

Jae CRowder: 7.8 million
15.8 points, 6.4 rebs, 2.2 assists, 53.1 TS and 12.1 PER

PJ Tucker: 8.3 million
Numbers are worse than Snell, but he plays almost 40 minutes a game for a good team and makes less $

Robert Covington: 11.3 Million
13.9 points, 5.8 rebs, 1.4 assists, 58% TS and 14.7 PER

Joe Ingles: 11.4 Million
13.9 points, 4.6 Rebs, 6.6 assists, 58.1 TS and 13.4 PER

Norman Powell: 10.1 million
16.5 points, 4.4 rebs, 2.9 assists, 59.6 TS and 13.3 PER

Joe Harris: 7.7 million
16.3 points, 4.6 REbs, 2.8 assists, 64.5 TS and 13.5 PER

That is 8 3 and D wings I found in about 10 minutes of research under contract on vet deals making less than Snell and producing more.

Epic fail by you.

Again.
Buddy, are you fooling yourself?

Other than convington and Ingles. No other is a 3&D out of your list and Ingles is on a (retiring) veteran, while Convington is the nearest to an All Star one can find (he'll soon be one) and Harris is the NETs "secret brought back before waiving" but not a 3&D (he is just 3 without D)
I now wonder if you know what a 3&D is... combo forwards aren't 3&D... they are just forwards that can shoot the 3 and their assist passing is there to prove it... It takes a periphery defender that can steal and break the team in the open court for one to be considered as a 3&D.
 
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Buddy, are you fooling yourself?

Other than convington, Harris and Ingles. No other is a 3&D out of your list and Ingles is on a (retiring) veteran, while Convington is the nearest to an All Star one can find (he'll soon be one) and Harris is the NETs "secret brought back before waiving"...
I now wonder if you know what a 3&D is... combo forwards aren't 3&D... they are just forwards that can shoot the 3 and their assist passing is there to prove it...

So what you are saying is that half the guys on my list are more than 3 and D players, yet still make less than Snell and produce more.

Does not help your argument.

By the way,

Grant is 3 and D. Shot 3.7 per game and made 115
Tucker is an elite defender who took about 80% of his attempts from 3. Again, 3 and D
Powell had almost half his attempts from 3

And if you want to say the rest are more than 3 and D players I won't argue.
 

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Buddy, are you fooling yourself?

Other than convington and Ingles. No other is a 3&D out of your list and Ingles is on a (retiring) veteran, while Convington is the nearest to an All Star one can find (he'll soon be one) and Harris is the NETs "secret brought back before waiving" but not a 3&D (he is just 3 without D)
I now wonder if you know what a 3&D is... combo forwards aren't 3&D... they are just forwards that can shoot the 3 and their assist passing is there to prove it... It takes a periphery defender that can steal and break the team in the open court for one to be considered as a 3&D.

The lengths you will go to in order to avoid admitting error are absolutely staggering.
 
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