thunderc
Well-Known Member
Bringing Kansas?
It’s time for OU to worry about themselves and no one else.
Bringing Kansas?
Need a package deal. Nobody east is going to 15 teams.It’s time for OU to worry about themselves and no one else.
Need a package deal. Nobody east is going to 15 teams.
I'm guessing the next round will be about "national appeal" to viewers, not regional. The only one of those you listed that has a "national" following of any significance is BYU.Well, that is the bottom line. No one wants to share with more if the more don't bring more to the table than they'd share.
But schools like Cincy and Memphis and UConn and BYU, possibly a Boise St are good enough at the big 2 of football and/or basketball, that they'd probably ADD more revenue than they would take in their share. And if not, straight up, adding Cincy gives a conference an Ohio footprint, and Memphis gives them a Tennessee footprint, UConn gives them the Connecticut footprint and BYU gives them the Mormon footprint. Boise St is a stretch. One of the New Mexico schools would also be a stretch. Maybe Air Force or Army or Navy could add enough of a national footprint?
B1G, ACC & SEC are already at 14, so it would be 2 for the Pac, and 4 for the Big 12. So the Big 12 seems to be where the most change would need to happen. I mean, none of the conferences with 14 are going backwards.
Well it will be interesting to see how things develop over the next 5-10 years.
I'm guessing the next round will be about "national appeal" to viewers, not regional. The only one of those you listed that has a "national" following of any significance is BYU.
I heard it explained this way a while back. Casual CFP fans, outside of a regional footprint, aren't interested in most other conference slates that match up schools without national appeal. (Many are not like us CFP nuts that'll watch anything.)
Casual fans in Portland, OR, Denver, CO, Chicago, IL and Washington, DC are much more likely to fork over some cash to watch games like Alabama vs Vanderbilt, Texas vs Baylor, OU vs Iowa State, and Clemson vs Wake Forest than they are Miss State vs Vanderbilt, Texas Tech vs Baylor, TCU vs Iowa State and Duke vs Wake Forest. Just changing the first team in those matchups drops the national appeal significantly for the most part.
One of the best examples may have been the Ohio State vs Purdue game this year. There was quite a bit of interest around the nation to watch that game. Had it been Indiana vs Purdue instead, not so much. Only the B1G die hards and the CFP nuts like us would have been interested.
If it were all about "the big 2", conference realignment would have looked a lot different at the beginning. It wasn't about competitiveness and improving the quality of football or basketball. It was about the number of TV sets available in their conference footprint that could be used to negotiate media contracts. That was it...100%.
Need a package deal. Nobody east is going to 15 teams.
If that’s the options, hope you have fun in the SEC.Texas and Oklahoma go as a package deal to either, the SEC, or the BIG.
Texas and Oklahoma go as a package deal to either, the SEC, or the BIG.
I don't think they'll have to. I doubt ESPN will fork over the coin for the LHN like they did at first. But, what the hell do I know.If a&m is in a conference-Texas will not go to (perhaps OU as-well). a$m burned a lot of bridges when they left and have not mend any fences.
Both Texas and OU have great 3rd tier tv rights and it will take a lot of funds for either to consider leaving.
Big12 will probably add 2 teams if those teams bring something to the table. At some point in time the Big12 will buy out the LHN and turn into the Big12 Network. But no hurry
You are sure the SEC will want Oklahoma? Not exactly the biggest media footprint?
Good football, for sure. Decent bb. What else does OU offer?
Personally, I don't see any conferences expanding beyond 14 teams. The Pac doesn't want to expand beyond 12. Most SECers wish they would have stayed at 12. Most B1G fans wish we would have stayed at 12.
Advantage of a 14 team conference? Two 7 team divisions. 9 game Conf schedule allows for playing every Div team, one guaranteed rival from other Div every year, and the other 6 teams rotate, 2 different teams every 3 years, or a home and away vs each once every 6 years. It's just a simple formula.
You expand to 16 teams and you will almost never play the teams from the other division.
And who would the B1G be willing to add? Notre Dame and Texas are the only two worthy, and both are the biggest headaches in the NCAA. The B1G will NOT give either of those schools what they want and will probably demand.
OU turned down the SEC once unfortunately. Honestly your question doesn’t deserve an answer.
If a&m is in a conference-Texas will not go to (perhaps OU as-well). a$m burned a lot of bridges when they left and have not mend any fences.
Both Texas and OU have great 3rd tier tv rights and it will take a lot of funds for either to consider leaving.
Big12 will probably add 2 teams if those teams bring something to the table. At some point in time the Big12 will buy out the LHN and turn into the Big12 Network. But no hurry