POLL Big XII: Which departure(s) hurt the worst?

[OldDevilDawg]

God awful coaching is what happened. Damn son, did you just start watching CFB this year?

 

[BTHOtu]

I miss the rivalries.
OU/Nebraska
Kansas/Missouri
Colorado and ....

 

[HuskerinBig10]

All four hurt for Texas b/c those teams were pretty much guaranteed victories for us, but in reality, the pain wasn't as bad after all. Once those teams left, the Big 12 members all agreed to equal TV revenue sharing, which was key seeing how Nebraska demanded unequal TV revenue sharing when the conference was formed and Aggy continued to vote in favor of unequal revenue sharing while they were a member. All members are now making more money than ever. The Big 12 had 4 members leave that had a combined 1 NC and 1 win in a major bowl game while they were Big 12 members. I guess you could say losing Aggy and CU also hurt on the academic side of things, as those two are AAU members. I'll also add losing Aggy hurt some more b/c those fucking idiots opened up the state of Texas even more to SEC recruiting. At least lil bro is a higher paid ho now......

Complete lie as usual on the revenue sharing thing.

Your Texas fuck up shit is all you do. You pretend Texas is completely 100% innocent in every fucking thing.

The year 2011, Nebraska had left, the vote for unequal revenue sharing occurred. Guess who wanted it? Texas Longhorns, Oklahoma Sooners, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, and Baylor. Yup, all five Texas schools voted together, as usual. Nebraska had NO FUCKING VOTE because they were in the Big 10.

Do I really need to bring back the demands of oklahoma in 2011 about what needed to be done to keep the Conference together.

FUCK Texas.

From 2011

Jenni Carlson: The Oklahoma Plan is so crazy it just might work

Sharing A Bright Future

The Conference wrapped up its 2011 spring meetings here Friday with an outlook so bright, sunglasses might have to be distributed. After losing Nebraska and Colorado to other conferences, the Big 12 is poised to move forward as a united 10-team league.


The Big 12 will equally divide 76 percent of its football and basketball television revenue among the 10 schools. Since the league was formed in 1996, 57 percent of the revenue had been split equally.

The remaining 24 percent of television money will be distributed according to several criteria, including number of appearances, quality of competition and willingness to move games to accommodate television.

If anything, the Big 12 owes Nebraska because once nebraska left ESPN came and threw a lot of money at the conference to keep it together. They reworked the contract THREE YEARS earlier and gave the conference more money. That was not happening if Nebraska stayed.

Nevermind the LHN wanting to broadcast high school games.
Nevermind the LHN trying to buy the rights to Texas tech football AWAY games.
Nevermind the LHN demanding Big 12 teams PLAY on the LHN.

As usual with Texas it is do as we say, not as we do.

Part of Texas fan indoctrination is to complete repeating lies, and hope and pray the dummies in Kansas, Iowa, and West Virginia don't catch on.

 

[Neilcar]

Like I said ...the bickering stopped when Nebraska and a$m left ...

 

[tnapucco]

Complete lie as usual on the revenue sharing thing.

Your Texas fuck up shit is all you do. You pretend Texas is completely 100% innocent in every fucking thing.

The year 2011, Nebraska had left, the vote for unequal revenue sharing occurred. Guess who wanted it? Texas Longhorns, Oklahoma Sooners, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, and Baylor. Yup, all five Texas schools voted together, as usual. Nebraska had NO FUCKING VOTE because they were in the Big 10.

Do I really need to bring back the demands of oklahoma in 2011 about what needed to be done to keep the Conference together.

FUCK Texas.

From 2011

Jenni Carlson: The Oklahoma Plan is so crazy it just might work

Sharing A Bright Future

The Conference wrapped up its 2011 spring meetings here Friday with an outlook so bright, sunglasses might have to be distributed. After losing Nebraska and Colorado to other conferences, the Big 12 is poised to move forward as a united 10-team league.


The Big 12 will equally divide 76 percent of its football and basketball television revenue among the 10 schools. Since the league was formed in 1996, 57 percent of the revenue had been split equally.

The remaining 24 percent of television money will be distributed according to several criteria, including number of appearances, quality of competition and willingness to move games to accommodate television.

If anything, the Big 12 owes Nebraska because once nebraska left ESPN came and threw a lot of money at the conference to keep it together. They reworked the contract THREE YEARS earlier and gave the conference more money. That was not happening if Nebraska stayed.

Nevermind the LHN wanting to broadcast high school games.
Nevermind the LHN trying to buy the rights to Texas tech football AWAY games.
Nevermind the LHN demanding Big 12 teams PLAY on the LHN.

As usual with Texas it is do as we say, not as we do.

Part of Texas fan indoctrination is to complete repeating lies, and hope and pray the dummies in Kansas, Iowa, and West Virginia don't catch on.

 

[Neilcar]

oh that reminds me … I always wanted one of those Nebraska "REDemption" T-Shirts They should be a collector's item by now....

 

[TexasExes98]

Complete lie as usual on the revenue sharing thing.

Your Texas fuck up shit is all you do. You pretend Texas is completely 100% innocent in every fucking thing.

The year 2011, Nebraska had left, the vote for unequal revenue sharing occurred. Guess who wanted it? Texas Longhorns, Oklahoma Sooners, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, and Baylor. Yup, all five Texas schools voted together, as usual. Nebraska had NO FUCKING VOTE because they were in the Big 10.

Do I really need to bring back the demands of oklahoma in 2011 about what needed to be done to keep the Conference together.

FUCK Texas.

From 2011

Jenni Carlson: The Oklahoma Plan is so crazy it just might work

Sharing A Bright Future

The Conference wrapped up its 2011 spring meetings here Friday with an outlook so bright, sunglasses might have to be distributed. After losing Nebraska and Colorado to other conferences, the Big 12 is poised to move forward as a united 10-team league.


The Big 12 will equally divide 76 percent of its football and basketball television revenue among the 10 schools. Since the league was formed in 1996, 57 percent of the revenue had been split equally.

The remaining 24 percent of television money will be distributed according to several criteria, including number of appearances, quality of competition and willingness to move games to accommodate television.

If anything, the Big 12 owes Nebraska because once nebraska left ESPN came and threw a lot of money at the conference to keep it together. They reworked the contract THREE YEARS earlier and gave the conference more money. That was not happening if Nebraska stayed.

Nevermind the LHN wanting to broadcast high school games.
Nevermind the LHN trying to buy the rights to Texas tech football AWAY games.
Nevermind the LHN demanding Big 12 teams PLAY on the LHN.

As usual with Texas it is do as we say, not as we do.

Part of Texas fan indoctrination is to complete repeating lies, and hope and pray the dummies in Kansas, Iowa, and West Virginia don't catch on.

Sorry, but it is a FACT Nebraska demanded unequal revenue sharing when the conference was formed. I'm not talking about 2011 numnuts, talking about when the conference was formed. Texas demanded higher academics and the end of unlimited scholarships to the dumb as fuck partial qualifiers that made Nebraska relevant during the Osborne era and Nebraska demanded they receive the lion's share of TV revenue since they were the king of all CFB and were on prime time TV the most. It is also a FACT Nebraska first flirted with starting their own Network back in '06. The Omaha World Herald revealed that; you can't find that article anymore b/c it suddenly disappeared after NU was preparing to leave for the Big 10. Once Nebraska's program was declared dead forever and the likes of TT and KU were dropping 70 + on their has been program and they realized they would never win another national championship or conference title ever again, is when Nebraska wanted to act like the victim and claim how greedy their daddy in Austin was.

Regarding the LHN, 5 of the 10 Big 12 members have their own network and are making good money off of their 3rd tier revenue contracts. Congrats to Nebraska for being a higher paid, has been slut in the B1G. If you're going to get your ass handed to you every year, might has well get paid for it!

 

[Deep Creek]

My own research and speculations and attempt to figure out how four 16 team super conferences would work, I came to the conclusion that it will NEVER work. First of all, it would require the break up of the Big 12 which I don't see anyone allowing to happen, and it would require dozens of current FBS schools to either drop down to FCS or to form another division of it's own.

I think a system that is more workable, is either 6 or 8 fourteen team conferences. This allows for either 84 or 112 of the current FBS schools to remain as FBS schools.

Much easier for Big 12 to add 4 schools and the Pac-12 to add 2, etc..

I hear ya. Just can't see any conference wanting to add a member that can't bring at least a "current share" (or more) of revenue with them. If they can't, each school's share could go down.

The wildcard is whether or not "footprint" or TV set numbers drive the next round of negotiations and ultimately expansion. No one really knows demand, platform delivery, etc. I know a lot of the younger set don't like being forced to pay for things they have no desire to watch. Seems they want "a la carte" choices instead of bundles.

 

[Deep Creek]

We are arrogant all of the time. We are Texans -we are suposed to be arrogant

You forgot stubborn. We are the world champions at stubborness.

 

[Deep Creek]

The year 2011, Nebraska had left, the vote for unequal revenue sharing occurred. Guess who wanted it? 1 Texas Longhorns, Oklahoma Sooners, 2 Texas A&M, 3 Texas Tech, and 4 Baylor. Yup, all five Texas schools voted together, as usual. Nebraska had NO FUCKING VOTE because they were in the Big 10.

Which one of you sumbitches moved the Red River and didn't tell me about it?

 

[HuskerinBig10]

Sorry, but it is a FACT Nebraska demanded unequal revenue sharing when the conference was formed. I'm not talking about 2011 numnuts, talking about when the conference was formed. Texas demanded higher academics and the end of unlimited scholarships to the dumb as fuck partial qualifiers that made Nebraska relevant during the Osborne era and Nebraska demanded they receive the lion's share of TV revenue since they were the king of all CFB and were on prime time TV the most. It is also a FACT Nebraska first flirted with starting their own Network back in '06. The Omaha World Herald revealed that; you can't find that article anymore b/c it suddenly disappeared after NU was preparing to leave for the Big 10. Once Nebraska's program was declared dead forever and the likes of TT and KU were dropping 70 + on their has been program and they realized they would never win another national championship or conference title ever again, is when Nebraska wanted to act like the victim and claim how greedy their daddy in Austin was.

Regarding the LHN, 5 of the 10 Big 12 members have their own network and are making good money off of their 3rd tier revenue contracts. Congrats to Nebraska for being a higher paid, has been slut in the B1G. If you're going to get your ass handed to you every year, might has well get paid for it!

Texas made all the demands of the formation of the Big 12.

Which one of you sumbitches moved the Red River and didn't tell me about it?

That was a play on how Oklahoma ALWAYS voted the same as Texas and always plays their game in Austin, Texas at the Texas State Fair. I could have called it University of Texas - Norman, which I have done in the past.

 

[HuskerinBig10]

Sorry, but it is a FACT Nebraska demanded unequal revenue sharing when the conference was formed. I'm not talking about 2011 numnuts, talking about when the conference was formed. Texas demanded higher academics and the end of unlimited scholarships to the dumb as fuck partial qualifiers that made Nebraska relevant during the Osborne era and Nebraska demanded they receive the lion's share of TV revenue since they were the king of all CFB and were on prime time TV the most. It is also a FACT Nebraska first flirted with starting their own Network back in '06. The Omaha World Herald revealed that; you can't find that article anymore b/c it suddenly disappeared after NU was preparing to leave for the Big 10. Once Nebraska's program was declared dead forever and the likes of TT and KU were dropping 70 + on their has been program and they realized they would never win another national championship or conference title ever again, is when Nebraska wanted to act like the victim and claim how greedy their daddy in Austin was.

Regarding the LHN, 5 of the 10 Big 12 members have their own network and are making good money off of their 3rd tier revenue contracts. Congrats to Nebraska for being a higher paid, has been slut in the B1G. If you're going to get your ass handed to you every year, might has well get paid for it!

The oral history of the birth of the Big 12

Does a book excerpt justify Nebraska's concerns about Texas & the Big 12?

Jon Wefald’s book revisits Big 12’s origins, K-State’s football rise and controversy

From Big 12 own website on 10 Days in June

Act One
Threats From East And West
Ten Days In June
Looking To The Future



All votes have ALWAYS been controlled by Texas. At the first vote of the Big 12, guess which school won EVERY Vote? Texas.

The only vote that Nebraska was on the winning side was the unfair revenue sharing, which if it was against Texas's best interest, it would not have happened. All votes in the Big 12 later on were almost always 11 to 1.

Conference Commissioner? The guy from the SWC.
Where to put the conference office? Dallas, Texas.


Also, the article you mention was not from Omaha World Herald, it was written on a texas blog, the one that has the UT Clock Tower at night on it. No idea if it still exists. I went and read the supposed article then noticed it was on a blog. Yes, Nebraska DID mention they were looking at it, but that was a statement made by Harvey Perlman in an interview. Your Texas blogger ran with it from there and then wrote up something very nice. Probably attended the UT School of Journalism, which is a good school.

 

[HuskerinBig10]

Like I said ...the bickering stopped when Nebraska and a$m left ...

texasExes and I have been going at each other since days at ESPN.

When Texas is good, he will spout lies and talk trash.
When Texas is bad, he disappears.

At one time on the Hoop, he welched on a bet with an Oklahoma fan but was board shamed into honoring the bet.

 

[fredsdeadfriend]

I hear ya. Just can't see any conference wanting to add a member that can't bring at least a "current share" (or more) of revenue with them. If they can't, each school's share could go down.

The wildcard is whether or not "footprint" or TV set numbers drive the next round of negotiations and ultimately expansion. No one really knows demand, platform delivery, etc. I know a lot of the younger set don't like being forced to pay for things they have no desire to watch. Seems they want "a la carte" choices instead of bundles.

Well, that is the bottom line. No one wants to share with more if the more don't bring more to the table than they'd share.

But schools like Cincy and Memphis and UConn and BYU, possibly a Boise St are good enough at the big 2 of football and/or basketball, that they'd probably ADD more revenue than they would take in their share. And if not, straight up, adding Cincy gives a conference an Ohio footprint, and Memphis gives them a Tennessee footprint, UConn gives them the Connecticut footprint and BYU gives them the Mormon footprint. Boise St is a stretch. One of the New Mexico schools would also be a stretch. Maybe Air Force or Army or Navy could add enough of a national footprint?

B1G, ACC & SEC are already at 14, so it would be 2 for the Pac, and 4 for the Big 12. So the Big 12 seems to be where the most change would need to happen. I mean, none of the conferences with 14 are going backwards.

Well it will be interesting to see how things develop over the next 5-10 years.

 

[Deep Creek]

Texas made all the demands of the formation of the Big 12.


That was a play on how Oklahoma ALWAYS voted the same as Texas and always plays their game in Austin, Texas at the Texas State Fair. I could have called it University of Texas - Norman, which I have done in the past.

I have too...but for different reasons. (They come down here and steal players.) And may know where that originated.

Read a parady in the Abilene paper many moons ago. A sports writer was very upset that a local HS player chose to go to school at Oklahoma. At that time OU had about 60% or so of their players from Texas. The week of the game he began his article like he was the announcer for the RRSO. "Here we are ladies and gentlemen for the game between the University of Texas at Austin and the University of Texas at Norman, OK."

And, FTR, the RRSO is played at the old Cotton Bowl in Dallas, not Austin. And from what they announce, the OU campus is actually a couple of miles closer to the stadium in Dallas than the UT campus.

 

[thunderc]

We can talk about the past all we want but shit has changed. OU straight up told the conference fuck you we are out right now when they voted down Mayfield getting another year of eligibility and all the sudden everyone wanted to revote. Shocker. This conference is dead, 2024 can’t get here soon enough.

 

[TexasExes98]

We can talk about the past all we want but shit has changed. OU straight up told the conference fuck you we are out right now when they voted down Mayfield getting another year of eligibility and all the sudden everyone wanted to revote. Shocker. This conference is dead, 2024 can’t get here soon enough.

I see us going West after 2024

 

[thunderc]

I see us going West after 2024

Good luck, we are going east.

 

[TheReal_NU]

Good luck, we are going east.

Bringing Kansas?

 

[TexasExes98]

Good luck, we are going east.

Doubtful on that