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"Baseball is a dying sport"

eaglesnut

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lol takes the iq of 12 to basketball, huh?

anyway, moving onto to folks who might have a clue as to what the fuck they're talking about .. .

12 was too high?
 

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It's gaining participants, not losing them.
Are you only talking about Americans?

Latinos are growing in both general population and opportunity to play ball for money. It's not just afterwork games in the sugar cane fields anymore, you know?

It is losing African participants. But why would you be so microfocused on that?
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This is just your opinion. Baseball is my favorite sport but the fact is basketball has almost double the fans as baseball does in the world. Close to 350 million more, it's sad but true.
Are you counting chinese?

Not sure how to break this to you, but they don't count.
 

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Its a long season, fans pay more attention mid season on through the playoffs. But I do think all professional sports have taken a hit lately. Even if viewership is up in the NBA for example it could be higher. People are busier than ever so to sit through an entire Baseball game takes some planning. :2cents:
 

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It's a peaceful sport. Sometimes you don't feel like hearing loud racket and obnoxious voices trying to take over the sound.
What is your opinion on constant squeaking?
 

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Its a long season, fans pay more attention mid season on through the playoffs. But I do think all professional sports have taken a hit lately. Even if viewership is up in the NBA for example it could be higher. People are busier than ever so to sit through an entire Baseball game takes some planning. :2cents:

A baseball game isn't that much longer than an NFL game.
 

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How about extra inning games?

Do you count OT games in the NFL then?

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the pace of play has never bothered me. pitcher vs. batter is like chess



Call me crazy, but I'm expecting the critics to compare baseball to like watching chess.
 

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Are you counting chinese?

Not sure how to break this to you, but they don't count.



So does $ spent by Chinese fans for NBA products not go towards NBA revenues?

Do you have some insider info that nobody else has? Or do you just not understand how revenues are calculated?
 

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Notsomuch

As for baseball’s P&L statement, by our count, the 30 MLB teams generated record average operating income (in the sense of earnings before interest, taxes, depreciation and amortization) of $40 million during the 2018 season, 38% more than the previous year. Last season revenue increased 4.8%, to an average of $330 million per team, while player costs (including signing bonuses and benefits) remained flat at $157 million.




NFL certainly has its issues, but Major League Baseball is the one that’s truly suffering


There are a lot of things you can do to increase revenue.

But you can still have declining viewership & attendance ...and that has to be fixed or it's all over.


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NBA basketball is the least watchable sport on the planet, I would rather watch Pakistan vs Madagascar in a lawn bowling match than watch a single minute of an NBA game, less kids watching baseball doesn't mean it's dying, with video games being so popular I would imagine kids are watching less of every sport, basketball remains relevant because you can have an IQ of 12 and still play it and all it takes is one ball and anything you can throw shit into, pretty much the same reason soccer remains so popular.
19-year-old thug-wannabes who can hit a 35-foot shot, and look remarkably athletic on a dunk but coudn't hit a 7 foot jumper to save their mother and have no clue what defense is. They should just abandon the whole pretense of defense and play horse for three quarters and have a slam dunk contest in the final quarter.
 

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19-year-old thug-wannabes who can hit a 35-foot shot, and look remarkably athletic on a dunk but coudn't hit a 7 foot jumper to save their mother and have no clue what defense is. They should just abandon the whole pretense of defense and play horse for three quarters and have a slam dunk contest in the final quarter.


Quit knocking my Bucks!!
 

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That's false.



I'm not sure the attendance at early-season/poor weather games of shitty teams is a good barometer of baseball's health.
No, it isn't.

And thirty years in a stadium is a long time. When it's the least asses in seats and it wasn't snowing, it's worth mentioning.

It's also worth accepting that baseball is on its downswing. Just the way it is.
 

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Are you only talking about Americans?

Latinos are growing in both general population and opportunity to play ball for money. It's not just afterwork games in the sugar cane fields anymore, you know?

It is losing African participants. But why would you be so microfocused on that?
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I don't live in Cuba.

And am not aware of any African participants. None.
 

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No, it isn't.

I assume you're saying youth participation isn't up, but it is.

https://www.foxsports.com/mlb/story...all-softball-participation-on-the-rise-051817

Baseball Participation Rates Jump Again, Particularly Among Casuals

Is It 2019 or 1919? Baseball Is One of America’s Hottest Sports

And thirty years in a stadium is a long time. When it's the least asses in seats and it wasn't snowing, it's worth mentioning.

It's worth mentioning, for sure, but I'm not convinced it's an indicator that baseball is dying. The Tigers suck balls and have for five years. Maybe the fans are adjusting to that?

It's also worth accepting that baseball is on its downswing. Just the way it is.

Could be, but there's not a lot of concrete evidence indicating it as such.
 
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