B12 expansion

[TexasExes98]

LOL @ tejas having to gobble up more mid-majors to keep their shit-show going.

LOL at Nebraska never having to worry about qualifying for the playoff. Run along now, Iowa 2.0.....

 

[Innermind]

does it really matter? the SEC west feeds on some crap SEC east team usually. More often than not the Big ten west team will suck also. Play any game, get to 13 if you can.

Those two conferences (SEC & B1G) need to re-align a little bit....

....in the B1G, Purdue and Michigan State should swap divisions to look like this:

WEST
Illinois
Iowa
MICHIGAN STATE
Minnesota
Nebraska
Northwestern
Wisconsin

EAST
Indiana
Maryland
Michigan
Ohio State
Penn State
PURDUE
Rutgers



.....and..... in the SEC.... Alabama and Auburn should move to East while Vanderbilt and Missouri move West:

WEST
Arkansas
LSU
Mississippi
Mississippi State
MISSOURI
Texas A&M
VANDERBILT

EAST
ALABAMA
AUBURN
Florida
Georgia
Kentucky
South Carolina
Tennessee

 

[Red_Alert]

I would not put too much stock in anything CFP says or does prior to making selections. There is no written formula, so you have no idea how they will value the different components that make up a resume in any particular year.

I put my belief in that they will try to spread the wealth amongst conferences. Hence avoiding putting two teams from the same conference in if they can.

I.E. (11-1) Oklahoma over (12-1) Iowa. Iowa had the better loss (by far) but the Big 10 already had a rep.

(11-1) Oklahoma over (11-2) Stanford. Oklahoma had one less loss and the Big 12 got passed over in 2014.

It worked out as an easy choice for the committee, but had Stanford had the 12th win, they would have gotten the invite.

That extra win coupled with a conference championship will always carry weight.

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[oaknightshockey1]

LOL at Nebraska never having to worry about qualifying for the playoff. Run along now, Iowa 2.0.....

11-14 since the playoff started vs 15-11? What does that make Texas, ISU?

 

[Used 2 B Hu]

EAST
Baylor
CINCINNATI
Iowa State
Kansas
MEMPHIS
TCU
West Virginia

Baylor totally fucking DOMINATES this division

 

[TexasExes98]

11-14 since the playoff started vs 15-11? What does that make Texas, ISU?

We have sucked, no doubt. But we'll be back. Ya'll are fucked forever, unless the B1G starts allowing unlimited scholarships for partial qualifiers, along with the NCAA giving Ohio State, Michigan, MSU and Wisconsin the death penalty.

 

[oaknightshockey1]

We have sucked, no doubt. But we'll be back. Ya'll are fucked forever, unless the B1G starts allowing unlimited scholarships for partial qualifiers, along with the NCAA giving Ohio State, Michigan, MSU and Wisconsin the death penalty.

How many years will you keep up with the "Yeah, we sucked, but we'll get better...but not you, you'll suck forever." BS?

 

[Red_Alert]

LOL at Nebraska never having to worry about qualifying for the playoff. Run along now, Iowa 2.0.....

tejas - BIGGEST UNDER-ACHIEVERS IN THE HISTORY OF CFB. lulz

Own it.

 

[Codaxx]

I put my belief in that they will try to spread the wealth amongst conferences. Hence avoiding putting two teams from the same conference in if they can.

I.E. (11-1) Oklahoma over (12-1) Iowa. Iowa had the better loss (by far) but the Big 10 already had a rep.

(11-1) Oklahoma over (11-2) Stanford. Oklahoma had one less loss and the Big 12 got passed over in 2014.

It worked out as an easy choice for the committee, but had Stanford had the 12th win, they would have gotten the invite.

That extra win coupled with a conference championship will always carry weight.

.

The truth is we do not know. Stanford had a better SOS, so that is highly likely. The real interesting scenario would not have been if Stanford, OU, and Iowa were all 1 loss conference champs. That would have tested the theory, because Iowa had a poor SOS. Soi far it is has been relatively easy to make the selections. We wont really find out until there is a season with something like 5 or more 1 loss teams or less than 2 1 loss team teams.

 

[huskers1217]

LOL at Nebraska never having to worry about qualifying for the playoff. Run along now, Iowa 2.0.....

LOl @ tejas not having to worry about traveling to bowl games. run along 1980's kansas 2.0

 

[Red_Alert]

How many years will you keep up with the "Yeah, we sucked, but we'll get better...but not you, you'll suck forever." BS?

She's a texican. Cut her some slack.

Their Resources/Achievement ratio is the laughing stock of CFB.

 

[tabascojet]

WEST
BYU
COLORADO STATE
Kansas State
Tcu
Oklahoma State
Texas
Texas Tech

EAST
Baylor
CINCINNATI
Iowa State
Kansas
MEMPHIS
Oklahoma
West Virginia

Fixed....

 

[Red_Alert]

The truth is we do not know. Stanford had a better SOS, so that is highly likely. The real interesting scenario would not have been if Stanford, OU, and Iowa were all 1 loss conference champs. That would have tested the theory, because Iowa had a poor SOS. Soi far it is has been relatively easy to make the selections. We wont really find out until there is a season with something like 5 or more 1 loss teams or less than 2 1 loss team teams.

Iowa had a poor SOS, but their one loss was better than Oklahoma's one loss. Iowa's 12 win problem was the committee already had a Big 10 rep.

I agree it's too soon to make definitive statements. However, I have to believe the committee is going to take every opportunity to spread the wealth among P5's and Notre Dame.

If they can justify it, each slot will have a different rep. No two from one conference. Among conference champs, 12 wins will trump 11 wins. 1 loss will trump 2 losses.

It goes without saying, undefeated teams (12 or 13 wins) are a lock.

.

 

[Innermind]

Fixed....

That was my original alignment too.... but I realized Oklahoma needs to play both Texas and Oklahoma State every season..... ONE annually protected divisional cross-over is doable... but two annual cross-overs.... not so much..... so..... I place Oklahoma into the west with Texas.

Plus, having two Texas teams in each division is an important concept, especially for recruiting.... thus, the divisional members would want a guarantee of playing two Texas schools each season.

 

[tabascojet]

That was my original alignment too.... but I realized Oklahoma needs to play both Texas and Oklahoma State every season..... ONE annually protected divisional cross-over is doable... but two annual cross-overs.... not so much..... so..... I place Oklahoma into the west with Texas.

Ok so move okst East and Kansas West......I just think TX and OK need to be broken up for balance.

 

[Red_Alert]

With no set guidelines it's easy to massage and justify spreading the wealth.

(12-0) Florida vs (12-0) Alabama in the SEC CCG. Florida wins (13-0) Bama goes to (12-1).

They'll pass on (12-1) Bama for an (11-1) Big 12 or ND team because... "er um Bama had the most recent loss"
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[Red_Alert]

inb4 "florida can't beat bama"

 

[Innermind]

That was my original alignment too.... but I realized Oklahoma needs to play both Texas and Oklahoma State every season..... ONE annually protected divisional cross-over is doable... but two annual cross-overs.... not so much..... so..... I place Oklahoma into the west with Texas.

Plus, having two Texas teams in each division is an important concept, especially for recruiting.... thus, the divisional members would want a guarantee of playing two Texas schools each season.

Ok so move okst East and Kansas West......I just think TX and OK need to be broken up for balance.

But that still wouldn't solve the problem of wanting to keep two Texas schools in each division (which IMO is very important).... if Oklahoma & Texas are in the same division, balance would be fine between the East & West as long as both Baylor & TCU remain strong programs.

WEST
BYU
COLORADO STATE
Kansas State
Oklahoma
Oklahoma State
Texas
Texas Tech

EAST
Baylor
CINCINNATI
Iowa State
Kansas
MEMPHIS
TCU
West Virginia

 

[Deep Creek]

I still think a 1 loss or undefeated OU or Texas gets in regardless of whether they expand or not though.

I agree...but a 1 loss Baylor, TCU, WVA don't get in. JMO

 

[Deep Creek]

I put my belief in that they will try to spread the wealth amongst conferences. Hence avoiding putting two teams from the same conference in if they can.

I.E. (11-1) Oklahoma over (12-1) Iowa. Iowa had the better loss (by far) but the Big 10 already had a rep.

(11-1) Oklahoma over (11-2) Stanford. Oklahoma had one less loss and the Big 12 got passed over in 2014.

It worked out as an easy choice for the committee, but had Stanford had the 12th win, they would have gotten the invite.

That extra win coupled with a conference championship will always carry weight.

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I think conferences that have parity are going to be at a great disadvantage over those that don't...even if that parity is very good. Mainly because of the difficulty in not losing a couple of games. I hope not, but it sure looks that way.