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Arrowverse: Arrow, Batwoman, Black Lightning, Flash, Legends of Tomorrow, Supergirl, Superman & Lois

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Why switch them when he could just take the Flash himself?

Perhaps because he wanted an "insider" to help him reopen the portal to earth one that was rapidly closing at the time?

It's safe to say that Zoom wants to dominate BOTH worlds at this point, is it not.

50/50 odds that "Caitlyn" takes Well's daughter hostage at some point, IMO.
 

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Perhaps because he wanted an "insider" to help him reopen the portal to earth one that was rapidly closing at the time?

It's safe to say that Zoom wants to dominate BOTH worlds at this point, is it not.

50/50 odds that "Caitlyn" takes Well's daughter hostage at some point, IMO.

Bigger question: how did she fake her metahuman gene screening?

They said last night that Cisco gave her a screening after they got back.
 

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Didn't they say Wells created Zoom at some point earlier this year?

I thought that was kind of a general assertion pertaining to the atomic disaster, but I could be wrong.
 

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Bigger question: how did she fake her metahuman gene screening?

They said last night that Cisco gave her a screening after they got back.

Yeah, that was part of what I referring to in them seemingly going too far toward taking the audiences' suspicion away.

We did not see earth two Caitlyn killed off for a reason, IMO.

Like I said, we'll see.
 

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Yeah, that was part of what I referring to in them seemingly going too far toward taking the audiences' suspicion away.

We did not see earth two Caitlyn killed off for a reason, IMO.

Like I said, we'll see.

im sure she'll be back either way.
 

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The second season of Flash has suddenly become interesting to me.

My initial reaction is that they were twins who were not aware of each prior to the Earth two atomic disaster, and following it, one did not bother to conceal his face/identity while the other did.

Regardless, it's obvious now that "earth one Garrick" will be revealed sooner than later.

Also, I know they went overboard to discredit the idea that earth one Caitlyn is not earth two Caitlyn, but I'm still not buying it. I think Zoom switched them at the end of the previous episode, but we'll see.

Also, the man in the iron mask: Beyond twins, triplets, perhaps?

Yeah, I am really thinking the separated at birth twins theory is best so far and makes the most sense. I guess you could argue it has something to do with alternate timelines on E2 as well... maybe something simular to what we saw with Thawne earlier this season. That doesn't seem to be as easy of a fit though.

Interesting thought on Caitlyn. Could totally see that happening.

Also, I don't think you need triplets for the guy in the mask to be Garrick.

E2 Garrick - dead ( but who knows maybe E2 has a Lazarus pit)
E2 Zoloman - Zoom
E1 Zoloman - guy on bench
E1 Garrick - guy in iron mask, completely erased from E1 by Zoom

But who knows...
 

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Would clones be a cop out?? We know from the comics that DC loves clones. Roy Harper, bazaaro and powergirl just to name a few.
 

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Yeah, I am really thinking the separated at birth twins theory is best so far and makes the most sense. I guess you could argue it has something to do with alternate timelines on E2 as well... maybe something simular to what we saw with Thawne earlier this season. That doesn't seem to be as easy of a fit though.

Interesting thought on Caitlyn. Could totally see that happening.

Also, I don't think you need triplets for the guy in the mask to be Garrick.

E2 Garrick - dead ( but who knows maybe E2 has a Lazarus pit)
E2 Zoloman - Zoom
E1 Zoloman - guy on bench
E1 Garrick - guy in iron mask, completely erased from E1 by Zoom

But who knows...

You can tell by his hands that the guy in the iron mask is black though. Perhaps a black Jay Garrick? (lol)
 

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You can tell by his hands that the guy in the iron mask is black though. Perhaps a black Jay Garrick? (lol)

Yeah, I still think its Wally myself but you could argue he might not be black and his hands are just dirty, I have seen some that think that. Personally, I don't think it would be that interesting if it was just Jay again... sort of would become a running gag at that point. Wally makes the most sense.
 

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Yeah, I still think its Wally myself but you could argue he might not be black and his hands are just dirty, I have seen some that think that. Personally, I don't think it would be that interesting if it was just Jay again... sort of would become a running gag at that point. Wally makes the most sense.

The most obvious argument for Wally is we've seen every other main character's doppelganger already.
 

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Yeah, that was part of what I referring to in them seemingly going too far toward taking the audiences' suspicion away.

We did not see earth two Caitlyn killed off for a reason, IMO.

Like I said, we'll see.

The funny thing is, if we didn't know that Killer Frost was a real bad guy, i'd say the whole thing was a red herring and Cisco was gonna be the villain of the story....maybe not now...but down the line.
 

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So a weird way to end this latest episode of Arrow.

Seemed more like a season finale than one right in the middle of a season.
 

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So a weird way to end this latest episode of Arrow.

Seemed more like a season finale than one right in the middle of a season.
So she takes her first steps since getting shot, and she takes them while wearing heels.

And they say she isn't a super hero...
 

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So she takes her first steps since getting shot, and she takes them while wearing heels.

And they say she isn't a super hero...

I was thinking more

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The fact that the main enemy has lost his magic source, is defeated and in jail, the kid is gone and she walks away from the relationship...all in one episode .
 

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Damian Dark was in legends in 1975 and looked the same... I am pretty sure He has another magical talisman...
 

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I was thinking more

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The fact that the main enemy has lost his magic source, is defeated and in jail, the kid is gone and she walks away from the relationship...all in one episode .

That's a record
 

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Damian Dark was in legends in 1975 and looked the same... I am pretty sure He has another magical talisman...

wouldn't it just be the same one?

Like Vixen doesn't change Talisman multiple times.
 

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wouldn't it just be the same one?

Like Vixen doesn't change Talisman multiple times.


Yes, but don't you also assume someone so powerful, and so old would have a backup plan... He didn't even seem to worried when they took his talisman...
 

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Yes, but don't you also assume someone so powerful, and so old would have a backup plan... He didn't even seem to worried when they took his talisman...

I don't think he expected them to be able to break it.
 

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I don't think he expected them to be able to break it.

Still. If someone stole the source of your power you would care. He never even mentioned it. So that is either lazy writing, or he didn't know that that was the source, or he has another source of his power.
 
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