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Are they tanking? Are they streaking? Whatever happens will be at the Grill for 4 against HOU 9/13-16

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Then move someone further down the line. Keep the best and trade the rest.
Was he one of the best? Or just at the moment ranked higher? Personally I wasn’t very impressed with his performance so far doubt he would have been advanced to AAA at this point by the Rangers
 

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I wasn’t happy about including him either but with the numbers we would have probably moved him in the next year or so anyway

Ok, so you move him in the next year or so and get something back comparable to his value.
 

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Ok, so you move him in the next year or so and get something back comparable to his value.
Agreed and that would depend on him. Performance wise he hasn’t done much to impress me and I don’t know what other teams and scouts think of him
 

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Agreed and that would depend on him. Performance wise he hasn’t done much to impress me and I don’t know what other teams and scouts think of him

Even if he numbers were in the shitter, the fact that JD had to include him in a deal that already included Gibson and Kennedy to land Spencer Howard is an abysmal failure. And I'm the biggest JD apologist on this board.

If you do Crouse for Howard straight up, then OK. That I can wrap my head around.
 

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Even if he numbers were in the shitter, the fact that JD had to include him in a deal that already included Gibson and Kennedy to land Spencer Howard is an abysmal failure. And I'm the biggest JD apologist on this board.

If you do Crouse for Howard straight up, then OK. That I can wrap my head around.
I agree unfortunately it’s a done deal
 

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According to my thinking there are at least 9 pitchers in our system that rank above where Crouse would be right now: Leiter, Winn, Allard, Dunning, Hearn, Otto, Alexy Latz & Rodriquez
 
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According to my thinking there are at least 9 pitchers in our system that rank above where Crouse would be right now: Leiter, Winn, Allard, Dunning, Hearn, Otto, Alexy Latz & Rodriquez
Lol. A lot of those are ones you don't think should be in the rotation next year even though they have already pitched in the big leagues. You feel one way about a player to argue one case while stating a contrasting opinion about that same player to argue another case. You just like being contrary.
 

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Even if he numbers were in the shitter, the fact that JD had to include him in a deal that already included Gibson and Kennedy to land Spencer Howard is an abysmal failure. And I'm the biggest JD apologist on this board.

If you do Crouse for Howard straight up, then OK. That I can wrap my head around.
I would have been against Crouse for Howard straight up. You might have to go down to Weems in the pecking order to trade for Howard, to have it make any sense to me.
 

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Lol. A lot of those are ones you don't think should be in the rotation next year even though they have already pitched in the big leagues. You feel one way about a player to argue one case while stating a contrasting opinion about that same player to argue another case. You just like being contrary.
I think we only have 5 spots in the rotation and Hearn, Allard & Dunning are pretty much set in 3 spots and Arihara (unless traded in the off-season) will probably be in a spot so unless you can figure on how to fit Alexy, Otto, Winn, Latz etc into that one spot some of them will either be in the pen ready to step in if a spot opens or at AAA
 

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I would have been against Crouse for Howard straight up. You might have to go down to Weems in the pecking order to trade for Howard, to have it make any sense to me.
Hell in the long run Bradford and Weems might have moved ahead of Crouse
 

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I would have been against Crouse for Howard straight up. You might have to go down to Weems in the pecking order to trade for Howard, to have it make any sense to me.

Personally I wouldn't have done it, but at least I could make sense of it.
 

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"What if... the Rangers never traded Hans Crouse?"
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The thought was Howard profiles as a starter and Crouse no longer did. His high velocity had gone down but funny he was becoming a little more wily.
Time will tell if the Rangers can fix Howard
It looks like they really wanted Howard and Crouse had to be included right or wrong
 

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The thought was Howard profiles as a starter and Crouse no longer did. His high velocity had gone down but funny he was becoming a little more wily.
Time will tell if the Rangers can fix Howard
It looks like they really wanted Howard and Crouse had to be included right or wrong

I haven't read or seen a single thing since this trade that suggests to me Howard will be a successful starter.
 
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