Antonio Smith is a dick

[KillaWatt]

Everything he did was football plays. Dirty as hell maybe, but they compare in no way to the response, which was not a football play.

So trying to break ankles in the pile,and twisting the shit out of someones neck is just playing football?
I would much rather face an honest player then one who is going to go out of his way to hurt me in the pile.
This isnt some isolated incident. Players all over the league have accused him of everything from eye gouging to the ankle crap he pulls on a regular basis.
Thats hardly "a football play"

 

[KillaWatt]

If you can show that on video, ban his ass for life, too.

I can show you two of em. I'll try and dig em up.

 

[KillaWatt]

Here's one from last year when he tried to twist Antonios ankle.
Google Image Result for http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-wosoGJ5azJo/UFL_DEUoVsI/AAAAAAAAANo/GAHPbucZRL8/s1600/incognito_smith.gif

 

[JDM]

Then he should be punished for that. That doesn't change the fact that this incident should be punished far more harshly than it is.

 

[The Pimp Of Eloquence]

Here's one from last year when he tried to twist Antonios ankle.
Google Image Result for http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-wosoGJ5azJo/UFL_DEUoVsI/AAAAAAAAANo/GAHPbucZRL8/s1600/incognito_smith.gif

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Looks like he's holding him by the ankle. How do you get twisting out of that ?

 

[KillaWatt]

And of course you have this incident.
Report: Dolphins? Richie Incognito punched, knocked out hotel security guard

 

[BritishDolfan]

And of course you have this incident.
Report: Dolphins? Richie Incognito punched, knocked out hotel security*guard

That's irrelevant to whether Smith should be punished though. It doesn't help Ritchie's reputation one bit though.

 

[KillaWatt]

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Looks like he's holding him by the ankle. How do you get twisting out of that ?

The guys rated as the second dirtiest player in the NFL. Who you going to believe?
The guy who's been accused of that exact same shit repeatedly by other players,or Antonio who is not known to be dirty?

 

[The Pimp Of Eloquence]

The guys rated as the second dirtiest player in the NFL. Who you going to believe?
The guy who's been accused of that exact same shit repeatedly by other players,or Antonio who is not known to be dirty?

I'm not believing the guy who tried to bash in another human's head with a football helmet.

 

[mcro_rave_2001]

I'm not believing the guy who tried to bash in another human's head with a football helmet.

IDK, but couldn't' what Smith did be consider assault and could have legal ramifications?

 

[BritishDolfan]

I'm not believing the guy who tried to bash in another human's head with a football helmet.

To be fair, the dirtiest player things came from a survey of quite a few other players.

IDK, but couldn't' what Smith did be consider assault and could have legal ramifications?

I guess it could, but I don't think it's likely that a prosecutor would actually do that.

 

[mcro_rave_2001]

To be fair, the dirtiest player things came from a survey of quite a few other players.



I guess it could, but I don't think it's likely that a prosecutor would actually do that.

i don't care how dirty a player is he doesn't deserve to get hit upside the head with a helmet.

 

[The Pimp Of Eloquence]

IDK, but couldn't' what Smith did be consider assault and could have legal ramifications?

It could ...

.... but ...

... much like a rabid punch boxing or an eye gouge in MMA it is kind of considered to be part of the competition that both players voluntarily participated in albeit outside of the rules.

Stuff like this is much worse:

[YOUTUBE]jgqUZ1IAA_8#t=102[/YOUTUBE]

 

[The Pimp Of Eloquence]

To be fair, the dirtiest player things came from a survey of quite a few other players.

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True but that doesn't prove that there was any ankle twisting going on. I'll trust my eyes on this one.

 

[JDM]

If you swung a baseball bat at someone you could be subject to legal action, IMO, and this is the same thing. Either one could easily kill someone if they connect. Once you use equipment as a weapon like that you aren't protected by it being "part of the sport" IMO.

 

[JDM]

Just because the consequences were worse doesn't mean the action in itself was. A punch doesn't compare to using a weapon.

 

[TexasMan]

If you swung a baseball bat at someone you could be subject to legal action, IMO, and this is the same thing. Either one could easily kill someone if they connect. Once you use equipment as a weapon like that you aren't protected by it being "part of the sport" IMO.

So intentionally throwing a baseball 95 MPH at someone's head couldn't: a) easily kill someone? b) be using equipment as a weapon?

 

[KillaWatt]

It could ...

.... but ...

... much like a rabid punch boxing or an eye gouge in MMA it is kind of considered to be part of the competition that both players voluntarily participated in albeit outside of the rules.

Stuff like this is much worse:

[YOUTUBE]jgqUZ1IAA_8#t=102[/YOUTUBE]

Yeah it was. Thats my old man helping him.

 

[KillaWatt]

I'm not believing the guy who tried to bash in another human's head with a football helmet.

A man can only take so much. I know I've lost my temper and regretted it later. So did the other guy.

 

[JDM]

So intentionally throwing a baseball 95 MPH at someone's head couldn't: a) easily kill someone? b) be using equipment as a weapon?

It's harder to show intent there. I would bet connecting with a baseball bat to the head would be pretty significantly more likely to do permanent damage than throwing a baseball as hard as you can would, though. And yes, if you deliberately aim for the head, you should be punished seriously for that as well.