Andrew Luck Possibly To Miss First 6 Games?

[bksballer89]

Got to love when a guy ask a question then get mad if you have a different opinion than he does. Had a feeling he would get his panties in a bunch if you didn't answer Russell Wilson.

 

[rmilia1]

Indy is 6-4 the last 2 years when Luck doesn't play . 10-12 when he does.

 

[sonnyblack65]

Indy isnt crappy. They're pedestrian and have been for a year or two. Luck is solid but not great . He's a top 15 QB , nothing more nothing less. He's got talent but something just doesn't seem to click with him

I'm not saying he is a top tier QB yet, but besides Hilton not much really imo. I thuink he has the tangibles and intangibles but needs some help on that team. When Polian was there he loaded up the team offensive studs like Faulk, Edge, Harrison, Wayne etc and some nice weapons on D with the bookends Freeney and Mathis, Brackett was solid too. If they got rid of Pagano, worked on the O-line, he would succeed

 

[sonnyblack65]

Indy is 6-4 the last 2 years when Luck doesn't play . 10-12 when he does.

And Falcons went 18-30 the 3 years prior to last with Ryan

 

[rmilia1]

I'm not saying he is a top tier QB yet, but besides Hilton not much really imo. I thuink he has the tangibles and intangibles but needs some help on that team. When Polian was there he loaded up the team offensive studs like Faulk, Edge, Harrison, Wayne etc and some nice weapons on D with the bookends Freeney and Mathis, Brackett was solid too. If they got rid of Pagano, worked on the O-line, he would succeed

You could be right . Tough to say imo. Luck gets a ton of love that he really hasn't earned but you're right in that the Colts aren't loaded on offense . Elite QBs turn pedestrian players into elite players ( see Drew Brees ), Luck seems to simply just be pretty decent but gets the rep of a top talent . Time will tell

 

[rmilia1]

And Falcons went 18-30 the 3 years prior to last with Ryan

Yep. Not sure what your point is with that but I'm assuming you're speaking to team talent which is fair but it's still telling Matt Hasselbeck had a better record than Lick with the same team

 

[sonnyblack65]

Yep. Not sure what your point is with that but I'm assuming you're speaking to team talent which is fair but it's still telling Matt Hasselbeck had a better record than Lick with the same team

Just you cant single out a few bad seasons because he was pretty banged up He still is 43-27 not too shabby

 

[rmilia1]

Just you cant single out a few bad seasons because he was pretty banged up He still is 43-27 not too shabby

For sure . He doesn't sick by any means. I'd put him in the 3rd tier of NFL QBs but closer to tier 2 than 4, if that makes sense.

 

[Dolemite censored]

You sound like a clown.

And you sound like a retarded moron.

 

[Brees#1]

Yep. Not sure what your point is with that but I'm assuming you're speaking to team talent which is fair but it's still telling Matt Hasselbeck had a better record than Lick with the same team

Hasselbeck played the jaguars at home and texans in Houston where Indy is better; your falcons, bucs, dolphins among those wins. Luck would have won all of those games himself. But Luck would have played better against Pittsburgh, who Hass got destroyed by.

 

[sonnyblack65]

And you sound like a retarded moron.

Not to be confused by a smart moron

 

[rmilia1]

Hasselbeck played the jaguars at home and texans in Houston where Indy is better; your falcons, bucs, dolphins among those wins. Luck would have won all of those games himself. But Luck would have played better against Pittsburgh, who Hass got destroyed by.

Maybe. Maybe not. Nothing in his first 5 years points to much consistency or elite play. People are enamored with his size and perceived talent which is fine but at some point your results are your results and those point to an above average QB but nothing special. He's got time to change that but right now that's what it is

 

[RobToxin]

Why all the Luck hate in here? Sorry was that an oxymoron?
Colts suck, with or without Luck.

Spot on here. That supporting cast is abysmal.

They are a 2-14 team with Houston's quarterbacks.

 

[Dolemite censored]

Not to be confused by a smart moron

A smart moron rises to the level of a cretin.

 

[bksballer89]

Spot on here. That supporting cast is abysmal.

They are a 2-14 team with Houston's quarterbacks.

Yep. So sick of guys on here acting like there is a quality supporting cast in Indy

 

[FaCe-LeE-uS]

Damn... Luckily their 1st 6 games only involve 2 AFC opponents.

 

[HaroldSeattle]

Yep. So sick of guys on here acting like there is a quality supporting cast in Indy

Yet other QBs don't get the same consideration. Let me mention a few. Bortles supporting cast is probably worse then Lucks, hear anyone cutting him slack for that? Golf....the Rams supporting cast suck other then Gurley and a great DL, hear anyone saying the only reason he sucks is the roster? They are other examples, but Luck is thee one and only to get any slack. Why is that? It's the hype he got coming out of college and all those that bought into it, that's why.

 

[bksballer89]

Yet other QBs don't get the same consideration. Let me mention a few. Bortles supporting cast is probably worse then Lucks, hear anyone cutting him slack for that? Golf....the Rams supporting cast suck other then Gurley and a great DL, hear anyone saying the only reason he sucks is the roster? They are other examples, but Luck is thee one and only to get any slack. Why is that? It's the hype he got coming out of college and all those that bought into it, that's why.

Jags defense was one of the best in football. Same for the Rams. Both were top 10 defensive teams last year. Jags finished 6th and Rams finished 9th. The Colts defense finished 30th.

 

[HaroldSeattle]

Jags defense was one of the best in football. Same for the Rams. Both were top 10 defensive teams last year. Jags finished 6th and Rams finished 9th. The Colts defense finished 30th.

Luck has Hilton, Moncreif, Gore ( old but still effective) various other offensive weapons others haven't. Defenses don't make for a effective QB in any case.
Tell you what....name me one...just one..QB...that gets the same pass that Luck gets for not being effective.

 

[bksballer89]

Luck has Hilton, Moncreif, Gore ( old but still effective) various other offensive weapons others haven't. Defenses don't make for a effective QB in any case.
Tell you what....name me one...just one..QB...that gets the same pass that Luck gets for not being effective.

Hard to win when you have a shit defense. Just ask Drew Brees.

And when exactly hasn't Luck been effective? Outside of 2015 when he played just 7 games, he's been pretty effective in pretty much all of his other seasons.