Andrew Luck having a day today

[SonnyCID]

Have you watched Reggie Wayne this year. Doug Baldwin is much better than Wayne at this stage of his career.

Dwayne Allen and Coby fleener are much improved this year over the past couple seasons. I won't deny that. But Doug Baldwin is better than any other colts receiver other than T.y

So Luck only has 3 receivers better than any in Seattle, not 4. OK.

 

[Desean12345]

I'm hoping some of these young receivers in Seattle develop(Willson, Richardson, Norwood). Though if they get too good, then the narrative will turn to "Wilson only puts up good numbers and wins because he has good receivers."

I want to see what Wilson does with no running game and a terrible defense. Then we will see how good he really is. I actually think Wilson can be great one day so i'm anxious to see that.

 

[Desean12345]

So Luck only has 3 receivers better than any in Seattle, not 4. OK.

Coby fleener is better than Doug baldwin? I'll give you Allen and hilton but not fleener.

 

[sonnyblack65]

I want to see what Wilson does with no running game and a terrible defense. Then we will see how good he really is. I actually think Wilson can be great one day so i'm anxious to see that.

Kid was a stud in college so no surprise. Only question was his height but he has proven many wrong inc me with his wheels and toughness

 

[SonnyCID]

I want to see what Wilson does with no running game and a terrible defense. Then we will see how good he really is. I actually think Wilson can be great one day so i'm anxious to see that.

Why do we need this particular set of circumstances(bad defense, bad running game, great receivers) in order to evaluate a QB?

 

[HaroldSeattle]

Luck has no offensive line, no running game and no defense. The Colts aren't a good football team by any stretch of the imagination.

Same argument used to defend Bree's more or less. The same argument you would use to defend everybody on your list. It's a weak defense and shows you don't hold your heroes accountable.

 

[Desean12345]

Why do we need this particular set of circumstances(bad defense, bad running game, great receivers) in order to evaluate a QB?

To me an elite quarterback is able to win football games in the regular and postseason with minimal help around him and do it on a consistent basis. That's an elite quarterback to me.

 

[sonnyblack65]

Same argument used to defend Bree's more or less. The same argument you would use to defend everybody on your list. It's a weak defense and shows you don't hold your heroes accountable.

I"ll admit that Brady and Manning were the best but now also Rodgers and Wilson, they are the future and Luck too

 

[darken65]

To me an elite quarterback is able to win football games in the regular and postseason with minimal help around him and do it on a consistent basis. That's an elite quarterback to me.

 

[gohusk]

Well we know Marshawn was a great running back before Wilson ever got there. It's not exactly symbiotic. Wilson has helped Marshawn a little but nearly as much as Marshawn has helped Wilson.

You're just going to talk and talk and talk so there's no point arguing with you.

 

[Desean12345]

Same argument used to defend Bree's more or less. The same argument you would use to defend everybody on your list. It's a weak defense and shows you don't hold your heroes accountable.

So you agree that Luck has had has none of those things and still has made the playoffs every year of his career? Same with Rodgers and Brees?

How are those guys able to be successful without any of those things?

 

[sonnyblack65]

To me an elite quarterback is able to win football games in the regular and postseason with minimal help around him and do it on a consistent basis. That's an elite quarterback to me.

I agree Brady and Wilson. Flacco had a great run 2 years ago best playoffs for a QB I remembe,r but 1 season. Ben , Flacco and Rivers are good half the time. Want a a constant winner

 

[HaroldSeattle]

To me an elite quarterback is able to win football games in the regular and postseason with minimal help around him and do it on a consistent basis. That's an elite quarterback to me.

Well if that is your definition of a elite QB your heroes have let you down.

 

[Desean12345]

You're just going to talk and talk and talk so there's no point arguing with you.

So you have no argument? Thanks.

 

[Desean12345]

Well if that is your definition of a elite QB your heroes have let you down.

Aaron Rodgers, Drew Brees, Peyton Manning etc aren't elite quarterbacks?

 

[Desean12345]

Just heard collinsworth say the Seahawks have the number one rushing offense and total defense in the NFL.

Aaron Rodgers is jealous.

 

[purguy12]

i thought when he tied a record with his predecessor with 27 in first year , he would shake it off. If he can not pull Favre plays, can be a stud. Take a sack or throw away and live another day

I agree he needs to learn when to throw it away. If he can do that he will be fine.

 

[Desean12345]

What team do you think is going to be more successful, especially in the postseason?

A team with a good quarterback, elite running game, elite defense and elite coaching?

or

The team with a good quarterback with zero running game, no defense and good coaching?

It's not rocket science people.

 

[sonnyblack65]

What team do you think is going to be more successful, especially in the postseason?

A team with a good quarterback, elite running game, elite defense and elite coaching?

or

The team with a good quarterback with zero running game, no defense and good coaching?

It's not rocket science people.

QB is key, defense second and coaching most of time TB changed that with Dilfer

 

[sonnyblack65]

wow Wilson great run