Andrew Luck having a day today

[Desean12345]

Russell Wilson is blessed with having an elite running back and an all time great defense. Kudos to Wilson for realizing this and not making any high risk plays to put his team in jeopardy.

Not every quarterback has that luxury.

 

[SonnyCID]

Im sure every fan would take the win, just don't tell me that Russell Wilson is better than Andrew Luck because he wins more.

Russell Wilson's degree of difficulty is much lower and margin for error is much higher than Andrew Luck.

the reason Wilson doesn't turn the ball over as much is because he doesn't have to carry an entire football team on his shoulders like Luck, Rodgers, Manning, Brees, Brady(now) have to do. As he long as he doesn't turn the ball over, his team will most likely win a blowout.

Those quarterbacks don't have that luxury and other than Brady never have.

No need to even watch games, just look at box scores, compare rósters and then create the narrative from there.

 

[HaroldSeattle]

Im sure every fan would take the win, just don't tell me that Russell Wilson is better than Andrew Luck because he wins more.

Russell Wilson's degree of difficulty is much lower and margin for error is much higher than Andrew Luck.

the reason Wilson doesn't turn the ball over as much is because he doesn't have to carry an entire football team on his shoulders like Luck, Rodgers, Manning, Brees, Brady(now) have to do. As he long as he doesn't turn the ball over, his team will most likely win a blowout.

Those quarterbacks don't have that luxury and other than Brady never have.

I get it. QBs that throw and throw and rack up yards and some TDs are forgiven their game killing interceptions. Someone who doesn't throw as often and doesn't make game killing interception and puts points on the board when needed, just isn't special. Got you.

 

[sonnyblack65]

Peyton covers up so many flaws during the regular season. I always said that come playoff time, those flaws would become exposed and I was almost always right. Most of the time Peyton had to be great for the Colts to win. Even being good a lot of times wasn't enough.

And i'm sorry, Brady was not the reason they were winning super bowls. Credit has to be given to him for not making any mistakes and being a solid game manager but he didn't do anything that his team over the top at all.

The Brady that has gone 8-8 in the postseason is a better quarterback in every way possible than the one that started 10-0 being a game manager.

Matter of opinion Desean. First SB when Pats give up a 14 pt lead in 4th quarter and tied with very little time left. Madden says knee it and go into OT. Brady marches down field and avoids a big sack with a nice run to get AV into FG position. Pats D blow leads in the nest 4 SB's in the 4th quarter. Sure Brady is more mature and confidant. same OC for last 3-4 years when he had 6 before that. I saw team be shit with BB and Bledsoe and Brady put them over edge, He was like Wilson , a guy who everyone doubted and had a chip. great leaders that teams follow, instead of cocky QB's that think they are it

 

[SonnyCID]

Russell Wilson is blessed with having an elite running back and an all time great defense. Kudos to Wilson for realizing this and not making any high risk plays to put his team in jeopardy.

Not every quarterback has that luxury.

But would we knock every QB for it if they weré in that situation?. It seem to me like is imposible to be a great QB if your Team has those other factors. The only way to be great QB is to have a bad defense and a lot of offensive weapons in the receiving game.

 

[sonnyblack65]

I get it. QBs that throw and throw and rack up yards and some TDs are forgiven their game killing interceptions. Someone who doesn't throw as often and doesn't make game killing interception and puts points on the board when needed, just isn't special. Got you.

Why 3 tds /7 ints in playoffs in SB win doesnt matter? lowest QBR in playoff history. Wilson had a 50 point better QBR than Manning in SB Manning 4 to's Wilson 0

 

[Desean12345]

I get it. QBs that throw and throw and rack up yards and some TDs are forgiven their game killing interceptions. Someone who doesn't throw as often and doesn't make game killing interception and puts points on the board when needed, just isn't special. Got you.

Russell Wilson isn't asked to do as much, He doesn't even need to put up that many points for his team to win.

 

[HaroldSeattle]

Sonnyblack65 what were Luck stats against the Pats last year in the playoffs? Did he throw some game killing interceptions?

 

[sonnyblack65]

Russell Wilson is blessed with having an elite running back and an all time great defense. Kudos to Wilson for realizing this and not making any high risk plays to put his team in jeopardy.

Not every quarterback has that luxury.

I know that Faulk is in HOF and Harrison and Wayne will be. I dont think any Seahawks receiver and not sure about Lynch. Peyton has studs just like now in Denver, Seattle lost Tate so so and Harvin. No TY Hilton or Wayne or Thomas,Thomas,Sanders or Welker ex Pats no#1

 

[TxHeat]

0 rings without cheating. The truth. Just saying.

just sayin it's pitiful to keep bringing up the same shit over and over and over.

 

[HaroldSeattle]

Russell Wilson isn't asked to do as much, He doesn't even need to put up that many points for his team to win.

However when needed ...he puts the points on the board. Something posters who are in love yards and such just over look.

 

[Desean12345]

Why 3 tds /7 ints in playoffs in SB win doesnt matter? lowest QBR in playoff history. Wilson had a 50 point better QBR than Manning in SB Manning 4 to's Wilson 0

Your bringing up one playoff game where Wilson thououghly outplayed Manning. I'm talking about a body of work.

And I knew you would bring up 3/7. Manning played the top 3 defenses in the NFL that postseason. That was the first and only time in Manning's career that his defense actually helped him in the postseason and didn't totally suck. He single handily brought his team back in the afc title game that year as well.

 

[sonnyblack65]

Sonnyblack65 what were Luck stats against the Pats last year in the playoffs? Did he throw some game killing interceptions?

Harold I think 3 or so yes same with the other guy before him. Key mistakes in the big games. Some guys just arent clutch. But I think that Luck has a shot and Rodgers maybe too. The other guys ship has sailed like Favre

 

[sonnyblack65]

If you can give me a QB to replace Brady first Rodgers and second Wilson 3rd Luck

 

[HaroldSeattle]

Harold I think 3 or so yes same with the other guy before him. Key mistakes in the big games. Some guys just arent clutch. But I think that Luck has a shot and Rodgers maybe too. The other guys ship has sailed like Favre

3 interceptions? With that talented Wrs corp?

 

[Desean12345]

However when needed ...he puts the points on the board. Something posters who are in love yards and such just over look.

All those quarterbacks i mentioned(except luck) have won superbowls. But to compare their help to Wilson's is stupid. I actually think seahawk fan's don't give nearly enough credit to their defense or Marshawn.

Those other quarterbacks put up numbers and win as well, playing on bad football teams.

 

[sonnyblack65]

However when needed ...he puts the points on the board. Something posters who are in love yards and such just over look.

Harold only real fans of football know that Wilson put up phone# book no#s at NC St and Whisky. I never really heard of Rodgers till GB and he is a stud. I also watched a lot of Luck and he was great too at Stanford. Be composed, dont pull a Favre /Manning and kid will be awesome

 

[Desean12345]

3 interceptions? With that talented Wrs corp?

Ty Hilton is a talented receiver corp?

More like one talented receiver.

And Luck has made many critical turnovers that are the product of both boneheaded decision making and forcing the issue, because he has to force the issue. If he's anything less than great though his team loses. That puts a lot of pressure, especially on a young quarterback and causes him to make some terrible decisions.

 

[SonnyCID]

Russell Wilson isn't asked to do as much, He doesn't even need to put up that many points for his team to win.

Maybe Luck could get away with putting up less points if he didn't put his defense in bad situations so often.

And Wilson may not be expected to put up many points, but the truth is that the defense benefits greatly from his decision making and sustained drives, 2nd in NFL in TOP, 4th in scoring drive effeciency.

But just keep ignoring what Wilson does, and focus on what he could he "could" get away with if you like.

 

[sonnyblack65]

3 interceptions? With that talented Wrs corp?

Hey Karl Malone had more points than Jordan and so does Kobe now, they must be better. Give me the clutch winner all the time. Thats why I have Montana as GOAT 4 SB's ) losses 0 picks in the years you could muckle a guy. Indy changed that with Polian after Peyton was PMSing , my guy was held. Too many FF guys here.