rmilia1
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HA ha! See that you don't make that mistake again. Criticism of Kaepernick is not allowed here and will be quickly shouted down.
Ive already had that and I havent even criticized the kid

HA ha! See that you don't make that mistake again. Criticism of Kaepernick is not allowed here and will be quickly shouted down.
49ers lost trade value the minute they chose Kaep over Smith with a 6-2 record before being replace... Being the starting QB through 2012 would have gotten them higher trade value.
All of this is assuming Alex wont be playing QB for SF next year. Seems like a big jump especially when you look at how average CK has been the last 2 games. 2 more like them and the Niners may be right back to Smith. If Kaep plays well then I think you can trade Smith but you arent going to get shit for him, maybe a 6th rounder. When teams know the deal and know they can just wait it out they really have no incentive to trade for him unless they can get him super cheap.
Hilarious. If Kaep's game against the Saints was average, then Smith's entire stit with Harbaugh was average - at BEST.
I want to add some substance to this thread. I think these cover all of the options available to both the 49ers & Smith - if I have left something out please feel free to add it to the list.
Since the trading deadline has passed, (11/1/2012) Alex, as a vested vet, is now in the waiver period and is subject to the waiver rules and waiver priority list; which, effective on 9/24/2012 is assembled using this year's records and tiebreakers.
Thus here are the options and the rules governing those options:
Option #1: Restructure and keep Smith as our back-up - this can happen at any time.
Option #2: Announce and seek a trade for Smith - this cannot happen until the trading window opens after the season ends.
Option #3: Waive Smith now. Any team picking him up would inherit Smith's contract including the remaining balance owed for this year.
Option #4: Release Smith after the season but prior to his roster bonus date. This has the effect of wiping out his remaining contract thus making him an UFA.
Option #5: Keep Smith as the highest paid back-up in the NFL.
The best option for the 49ers is #1
The best option for Smith is pretty much any option that guarantees him a job in 2013 and beyond.
Hilarious. If Kaep's game against the Saints was average, then Smith's entire stit with Harbaugh was average - at BEST.
Hey Bem, I'm starting to like Tolzein as the backup for next year. I think he has potential. Smith has gotten the shaft from the Niners and should just move on.
Wrong. 18 of 19, 230 yards, 3 TDs and no INTs for example.
Clyde CK was 16-25 for 231 with a TD and an INT, he led his team on 3 scoring drives in 4 quarters ( 17 points total). That is the dfininiton of average. I watched the entire game and he was OK. I didnt say a wrod about Smith but lets not pretend that Kaeps performance in the Saints game was great or even good. I may give you slightly above average but not much. His performance in the Rams game IMO wasnt really any worse than the Saints game( 21-32, 191 yards, 0 TD's, 1 turnover and 84 yards rushing, 3 scoring drives) he just made his turnover in a WAYYY worse spot and time. Both performances were very eh. You are more excited by the Saints game because you guys scored 2 defensive TDs and won that game. If you hadnt scored 2 DEFENSIVE TD's we'd be talking about how the move to Kaep looks terrible.
Clyde CK was 16-25 for 231 with a TD and an INT, he led his team on 3 scoring drives in 4 quarters ( 17 points total). That is the dfininiton of average. I watched the entire game and he was OK. I didnt say a wrod about Smith but lets not pretend that Kaeps performance in the Saints game was great or even good. I may give you slightly above average but not much. His performance in the Rams game IMO wasnt really any worse than the Saints game( 21-32, 191 yards, 0 TD's, 1 turnover and 84 yards rushing, 3 scoring drives) he just made his turnover in a WAYYY worse spot and time. Both performances were very eh. You are more excited by the Saints game because you guys scored 2 defensive TDs and won that game. If you hadnt scored 2 DEFENSIVE TD's we'd be talking about how the move to Kaep looks terrible.
If Scott became our back-up next year I would be absolutely fine with that as well. I like Scott in that role and I think he is content in that role as well, which brings its own value and he is incredibly cheap for 2013.
I agree that keeping Smith would require an alignment of the heavens but he would be the perfect back-up for our system. If it works out great - if not, then to your point - time to break ties.
Oh God, not this again. The Cardinals game was quite possibly the most overinflated stat-line I've ever seen. Over 60% of Alex's yards were YACs. One TD came off a 39-yard YAC by Moss in which he broke 3 tackles. The other was a blown coverage on an easy pass to Crabtree. Alex's longest target that game was from 19 freakin' yards.
What about 24/35, 204 yards (5.8 YPA), 1 TD 1 INT (52 QBR) against the Vikes? What about 12/21, 143 yards, 0 TDs and 0 INTs (46 QBR) against the Jets? What about the Giants game where he had a 24 QBR? Or against Seattle, where he had 35 QBR?
Kaepernick's lowest QBR so far is 72.3. Which would be 10th amongst Alex Smith's QBR rankings since Harbaugh has been here.
Give me a fucking break.
Three things:
1. We missed two field goals on otherwise successful drives by Kaep. 6 + 17 = 23.
2. We might have scored on the two drives, had the defense been tackled after the interceptions or if we got a punt, if not intercepted.
3. We ran the clock out with a notable 9-minute drive.
I'm one of the biggest supporters of Alex, as I lived in Utah when he played there, I followed him, and he joined my favorite team growing up. There's no one else currently playing that I would want to win a Superbowl or four with, if I could guarantee that. But I didn't like minimizing Alex and I don't like minimizin Kaep. We'll see over time how this thing goes. I can't call it a victory or loss yet. I just know potential, good and bad (big plays and mistakes).
As a backup, I wonder if he will have lost that confidence and swagger he seemed to have gained when he became the acknowledged "leader" of the team. Might he go back to that same old guy who lacked confidence and always had that hang dog look on his face?
I would hardly call going from the 50 to the 34 a "successful drive". It was disgraceful the way they went into a shell and put it all on an injured kicker from 52 yards..
Oh God, not this again. The Cardinals game was quite possibly the most overinflated stat-line I've ever seen. Over 60% of Alex's yards were YACs. One TD came off a 39-yard YAC by Moss in which he broke 3 tackles. The other was a blown coverage on an easy pass to Crabtree. Alex's longest target that game was from 19 freakin' yards.
What about 24/35, 204 yards (5.8 YPA), 1 TD 1 INT (52 QBR) against the Vikes? What about 12/21, 143 yards, 0 TDs and 0 INTs (46 QBR) against the Jets? What about the Giants game where he had a 24 QBR? Or against Seattle, where he had 35 QBR?
Kaepernick's lowest QBR so far is 72.3. Which would be 10th amongst Alex Smith's QBR rankings since Harbaugh has been here.
Give me a fucking break.
A team like the Jets, Cardinals, or Jags might a possibility. The Jets and Cardinals have strong Defenses and might be able to take our approach to winning with a strong Defense and doing just enough on Offense to win.
the yac was made possible by accurate passing. last year u and others were blasting smith for not giving wr's a chance to get yac.