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Aiyuk tells Jayden 49ers don't want him back.

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So, would a 2nd and 3rd, do it? If the player wants out and wants to come here, SF should be motivated to trade him Plus I think we would give more money than SF. Do the 49ers lose leverage b/c BA wants to come here?

If the 49ers want Luke and a 3rd the deal should be done.
 

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So, would a 2nd and 3rd, do it? If the player wants out and wants to come here, SF should be motivated to trade him Plus I think we would give more money than SF. Do the 49ers lose leverage b/c BA wants to come here?

If the 49ers want Luke and a 3rd the deal should be done.
At this point, I have no idea how a trade would work between us and the 49ers. Maybe a 2 and a 3 in 2025. An additional 2 in 2026 plus Luke?

I have no idea, but Mike Silver who is credible, and writes for the San Francisco Chronicle swears talks are back on.

You draft Jayden and you're #2 is Dyami and your #3 is Zaccheaus? That's tuff.

These vegetables have zero flavor.
 

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At this point, I have no idea how a trade would work between us and the 49ers. Maybe a 2 and a 3 in 2025. An additional 2 in 2026 plus Luke?

I have no idea, but Mike Silver who is credible, and writes for the San Francisco Chronicle swears talks are back on.

You draft Jayden and you're #2 is Dyami and your #3 is Zaccheaus? That's tuff.

These vegetables have zero flavor.

lol. there has to be a backstory for trading Dotson. We should be back in the running for BA. IF BA says he wants to go to Washington and will hold out if he doesnt go there the deal should happen.
 

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lol. there has to be a backstory for trading Dotson. We should be back in the running for BA. IF BA says he wants to go to Washington and will hold out if he doesnt go there the deal should happen.
Supposedly Dotson couldn't get off the line, can't block and his motor was beginning to be questioned.

Kliff doesn't run a lot of motion and Peters wants to build the Skins in the same fashion he helped build the 49ers. He wants tough physical players.

Look at Aiyuk, Deebo, McCaffery, Kittle. Look at how hard it is to tackle them. Look at how hard these guys play and how physical they are.

Dyami is known for his downfield blocking if nothing else. We saw Jahan get blown up on that McLaurin bubble vs the Jets. Could be they were seeing that a lot in camp.

I gotta trust it until proven otherwise.
 

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Supposedly Dotson couldn't get off the line, can't block and his motor was beginning to be questioned.

Kliff doesn't run a lot of motion and Peters wants to build the Skins in the same fashion he helped build the 49ers. He wants tough physical players.

Look at Aiyuk, Deebo, McCaffery, Kittle. Look at how hard it is to tackle them. Look at how hard these guys play and how physical they are.

Dyami is known for his downfield blocking if nothing else. We saw Jahan get blown up on that McLaurin bubble vs the Jets. Could be they were seeing that a lot in camp.

I gotta trust it until proven otherwise.

good point but if you're blocking ability gets you cut off the team as a WR something else has to be going on. I know it's important but shouldn't be the main reason you are cut or traded.
 

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good point but if you're blocking ability gets you cut off the team as a WR something else has to be going on. I know it's important but shouldn't be the main reason you are cut or traded.
I heard a lot of the local media question his motor. In Kilff's offense there is not a lot of motion and that's what they feel they would have to do to get Dotson off the line.

B Mitch questioned Jahan's body language without naming him.

The fact that Adam was willing to trade him in the division is damning or it could have just been Adam doing Jahan a solid and sending him home. He's a Pennsylvania guy.
 

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I heard a lot of the local media question his motor. In Kilff's offense there is not a lot of motion and that's what they feel they would have to do to get Dotson off the line.

B Mitch questioned Jahan's body language without naming him.

The fact that Adam was willing to trade him in the division is damning or it could have just been Adam doing Jahan a solid and sending him home. He's a Pennsylvania guy.

Interesting. If he didn't want to be here, yes you have to move him. im hoping we get BA
 

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Dotson had no problem in the red zone two years ago. That's where the guys that can't get off the line really hurt you in the condensed field.

Wild to give up on a highly drafted WR before year 3.
 

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At this point, I have no idea how a trade would work between us and the 49ers. Maybe a 2 and a 3 in 2025. An additional 2 in 2026 plus Luke?

I have no idea, but Mike Silver who is credible, and writes for the San Francisco Chronicle swears talks are back on.

You draft Jayden and you're #2 is Dyami and your #3 is Zaccheaus? That's tuff.

These vegetables have zero flavor.
There is no way I am giving up 4 top 100 players for him for the privilege of pay him 30 plus mil a year on top of that . You erode 2 advantages you have , cap space and draft picks for 2 damn years . Why propose such foolishness . Anyone saying we are back in play for BA is only guessing
 

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Interesting. If he didn't want to be here, yes you have to move him. im hoping we get BA
I think Dotson wanted to be here. I don't think he wanted to play behind Brown. He'll go to Philly and kill it. I have no doubt about that.

Feels like a fit thing, not a talent thing. We'll see. I'm not going to rubberstamp everything Peters does. He'll miss. No one gets everything right.
 

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There is no way I am giving up 4 top 100 players for him for the privilege of pay him 30 plus mil a year on top of that . You erode 2 advantages you have , cap space and draft picks for 2 damn years . Why propose such foolishness . Anyone saying we are back in play for BA is only guessing
I'm not proposing anything. I'm simply guessing what SF would want minus McLaurin. If you are going to accuse me of proposing "foolishness" at least put my name on it. Thank you.
 

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I'm not proposing anything. I'm simply guessing what SF would want minus McLaurin. If you are going to accuse me of proposing "foolishness" at least put my name on it. Thank you.
ok fair enough then i misread what you said . however again i would walk away from that . simply be patient . even with BA we arent going to do much this year anyway
 

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ok fair enough then i misread what you said . however again i would walk away from that . simply be patient . even with BA we arent going to do much this year anyway

BA should upgrade the win total. If JD has a great year, we should be relevant.
 

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BA should upgrade the win total. If JD has a great year, we should be relevant.
I will bet you BA doesn’t get us anymore the 2 wins tops , followed by no way to fix holes in the future . , when the prediction thread comes out I will show the people here why
 

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I will bet you BA doesn’t get us anymore the 2 wins tops , followed by no way to fix holes in the future . , when the prediction thread comes out I will show the people here why

so you are saying no to a 2nd and 3rd for BA? I thought a lot of people on here had us at 7 wins without BA, could be 9 and a playoff spot with him.
 

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so you are saying no to a 2nd and 3rd for BA? I thought a lot of people on here had us at 7 wins without BA, could be 9 and a playoff spot with him.
i certainly am for this year . we had 5 top 100 draft picks this year , we have 4 more next year , that 9 good young players to build a corp with . i can simply wait to pick up Tee higgins next year and i get the benefit of having the draft picks and the wr instead of sacrificing draft picks

i dont want to give up a 10-15 year run to make the playoffs this year or hope we can get it done in 3-4 yrs

the moves that are being talked about for BA are moves you make to become a superbowl caliber team , not the best 500 team in the NFL
 

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Guys i know you don't wanna hear this but Martavis Bryant for Ayuik straight up will probably happen soon. We losing a lot on this trade but oh well
 

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i certainly am for this year . we had 5 top 100 draft picks this year , we have 4 more next year , that 9 good young players to build a corp with . i can simply wait to pick up Tee higgins next year and i get the benefit of having the draft picks and the wr instead of sacrificing draft picks

i dont want to give up a 10-15 year run to make the playoffs this year or hope we can get it done in 3-4 yrs

the moves that are being talked about for BA are moves you make to become a superbowl caliber team , not the best 500 team in the NFL

still have to hit on the picks we know BA is already a good player.
 

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still have to hit on the picks we know BA is already a good player.
You either trust Peter’s to make the right picks or you don’t . I am not selling long term success for short term gratification
 
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