A ref involved in Deflategate is working the Super Bowl,Patriot fans are already losing their minds

[Malibu]

Ball should have never been thrown Gronks way. That's a fact. Peace.

 

[PatsFan2003]

Ball should have never been thrown Gronks way. That's a fact. Peace.

How could you know? Yes a ball will be made uncatchable when you push and then hold a player away from the ball.

 

[Cincyfan78]

In my opinion Gronk was not getting back to that ball.

Was he mugged? Yes, absolutely.

Did he have a shot of catching that ball, though? No. None.

In that case...I'd argue it's a no call because there was no way that Gronk was catching that ball. If it were catchable, then yeah, I'd say throw the flag, but it wasn't, and it wasn't even close. Gronk's own momentum was carrying him to the back of the endzone. The ball was poorly thrown, and had a 0% chance of being caught, or even deflected, by Gronk.

I have no issue with no flag on this play. How many teams do we all, at one time or another, bemoan a flag that was thrown on a play that had little impact on the actual play? This would be one of those cases since Gronk had no chance of catching the ball in the 1st place.

 

[sonnyblack65]

In my opinion Gronk was not getting back to that ball.

Was he mugged? Yes, absolutely.

Did he have a shot of catching that ball, though? No. None.

In that case...I'd argue it's a no call because there was no way that Gronk was catching that ball. If it were catchable, then yeah, I'd say throw the flag, but it wasn't, and it wasn't even close. Gronk's own momentum was carrying him to the back of the endzone. The ball was poorly thrown, and had a 0% chance of being caught, or even deflected, by Gronk.

I have no issue with no flag on this play. How many teams do we all, at one time or another, bemoan a flag that was thrown on a play that had little impact on the actual play? This would be one of those cases since Gronk had no chance of catching the ball in the 1st place.

Uncatchable true so no PI, but you can't make that type of contact or hold after 5 yards. Right call should have been holding ,5 yard penalty. The ref threw the flag and the other refs had him pick it back up, It is what it is.

 

[NEhomer]

In my opinion Gronk was not getting back to that ball.

Was he mugged? Yes, absolutely.

Did he have a shot of catching that ball, though? No. None.

In that case...I'd argue it's a no call because there was no way that Gronk was catching that ball. If it were catchable, then yeah, I'd say throw the flag, but it wasn't, and it wasn't even close. Gronk's own momentum was carrying him to the back of the endzone. The ball was poorly thrown, and had a 0% chance of being caught, or even deflected, by Gronk.

I have no issue with no flag on this play. How many teams do we all, at one time or another, bemoan a flag that was thrown on a play that had little impact on the actual play? This would be one of those cases since Gronk had no chance of catching the ball in the 1st place.

Complete and utter bullshit. At the moment he plants his leg to stop the ball is still some distance away. He was not likely to catch it is a far distance from being uncatchable. The play did get flagged.

 

[Cincyfan78]

Complete and utter bullshit. At the moment he plants his leg to stop the ball is still some distance away. He was not likely to catch it is a far distance from being uncatchable. The play did get flagged.

Gronks momentum never changes, he never stops.

I know what you're saying, I just don't think it was a bad no-call in this instance.

 

[NEhomer]

He got mauled...how was he supposed to stop?

 

[Carnzo]

NFL officials forgot footballs at Boston hotel before Patriots game

It's unknown how many were left at hotel


FOXBOROUGH, Mass. —Massachusetts State Police say they escorted footballs to Gillette Stadium for Saturday afternoon's Patriots game after they were left behind at a Boston hotel.
State troopers at Logan Airport were notified around 2:30 p.m. by employees at the Hyatt Hotel on airport property that the officials at Gillette Stadium for the Patriots' playoff game left behind official, specially-designated footballs and pressure gauges at the hotel.
The hotel was contacted by the National Football League after it realized the equipment was left behind.
State police then contacted NFL security at Gillette Stadium. NFL security asked for assistance from state police in bringing the footballs and gauges to the stadium.
The balls, which are known as k-balls, short for kicking balls, are the official footballs provided by the NFL for use in kicking plays.
A hotel employee was able to retrieve the equipment, and Massachusetts State Police Detective Lt. Thomas Coffey, who was on duty at Troop F, along with the hotel employee, drove the k-balls and gauges to Gillette Stadium.They arrived around 3:30 p.m. and turned them over to the NFL.
It's unknown how many balls and gauges were left behind. State police said they were in a box that was not opened.

 

[NEhomer]

Again, "he wouldn't have caught it" and "uncatchable" are two different things.

 

[Cincyfan78]

Complete and utter bullshit. At the moment he plants his leg to stop the ball is still some distance away. He was not likely to catch it is a far distance from being uncatchable. The play did get flagged.

That's a fair point.

Holding is obvious.

I'm just don't think it impacted the play at all, so it's one of those...if it didn't really impact the play, I'm ok with no flag.

But, like you said, it is what it is...nothing can be done about it now. Makes for a good debate on how/when penalties should be called like this, or if they should be let go. I mean, if you have a hard line call everything, then...you end up with 30 penalties a game where the majority of them have no impact on the actual play. But, both sides have an argument.

 

[Carnzo]

Yup the refs have their shit together, Okey Dokey.

 

[Cincyfan78]

Again, "he wouldn't have caught it" and "uncatchable" are two different things.

Can you argue it wasn't catchable because A: the DB was between Gronk and the ball. Even with no touching, Gronk would have had to make an amazing play. I don't think that's something you can just assume he'd do. B: The other defender was well in front of where Gronk would have been to catch the ball, and he caught it. That ball would have never made it to Gronk anyway.

Makes for good discussion on rules, though.

 

[NEhomer]

Might have been one thing if it was a no call but yeah, watching them pick up the flag with no explanation was tough to swallow. That's what pissed off Brady and rightly so.

 

[Cincyfan78]

Might have been one thing if it was a no call but yeah, watching them pick up the flag with no explanation was tough to swallow. That's what pissed off Brady and rightly so.

Now that I agree with.

If you pick up a flag, you should be able to explain it.

 

[redseat]

Can't imagine why Brady would protest

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They claimed it was "uncatcahble" Which if memory serves can't be reviewed so they call it

 

[redseat]

That's a fair point.

Holding is obvious.

I'm just don't think it impacted the play at all, so it's one of those...if it didn't really impact the play, I'm ok with no flag.

But, like you said, it is what it is...nothing can be done about it now. Makes for a good debate on how/when penalties should be called like this, or if they should be let go. I mean, if you have a hard line call everything, then...you end up with 30 penalties a game where the majority of them have no impact on the actual play. But, both sides have an argument.

Ok then... Flag should have at least been thrown for that then, no? If you say it's holding how did it not have an impact on the play? Gronk had no chance but do to go to end of the end zone due to the hold, he couldn't go anywhere else.

 

[SDPaddlefish]

Can't imagine why Brady would protest

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Yeah, pick out 1 play to try and legitimize the mass, constant whining by Brady and Pats fans. And I'm sure that every team in the league can come up with numerous similar plays to show how justified their whining is too.

I've really lost a lot of respect for Pats fans this week with their unfounded and inaccurate pre-game complaints about Hochuli and other whining and now this, Blakeman and an argument about 1 play. Yes, everyone is conspiring against the Pats. Grow up.

 

[Cincyfan78]

Ok then... Flag should have at least been thrown for that then, no? If you say it's holding how did it not have an impact on the play? Gronk had no chance but do to go to end of the end zone due to the hold, he couldn't go anywhere else.

Gronk also made no attempt to change his direction, and the holding itself did not impact the play because he was never going to get the ball. Event without contact, the DB was inbetween Gronk and the ball. Gronk would have had to go through the DB to make a spectacular catch, all while heading out of bounds. Not only that, even if Gronk had stopped at the point where the contact was made, and stood there waiting on the ball, the other DB undercut him and intercepted the ball. Yes, holding occurred, but no, it did no impact the play because in any case Gronk was not catching that ball.

Though, I agree with previously stated sentiment that if a flag is thrown and picked up, it should be explained why it was picked up.

 

[NEhomer]

Yeah, pick out 1 play to try and legitimize the mass, constant whining by Brady and Pats fans. And I'm sure that every team in the league can come up with numerous similar plays to show how justified their whining is too.

I've really lost a lot of respect for Pats fans this week with their unfounded and inaccurate pre-game complaints about Hochuli and other whining and now this, Blakeman and an argument about 1 play. Yes, everyone is conspiring against the Pats. Grow up.

Well now I'm just floored. Your respect was so important to me.

We'll just have to disagree Cincy...I'm convinced that Gronk could have at least gotten a hand on it and that's not the kind of play that "uncatchable" was created for. Odell's one hander from last year, in a similar gif, would appear to be just as uncatchable.

 

[redseat]

Gronk actually does appear to try and slow down and change directions in this play, his momentum made it hard for him to but the hold certainly played a role... But yes that was an underthrown ball by Brady... If it were slightly higher I am wondering what the outcome would have been