A.L. Central Smack Talk 2014

[CSD]

They won about 8-9 in a row against the central just now, I would hush.

+1

KC Royals are the best team in baseball this month so far. 13-4 in June with the best run differential.

 

[da55bums]

Joe nathans job as the closer was on the line today. The team and him needed that....

said the same thing when he came in, then he k's 3 batters..that game just made him the closer the rest of the season instead of released.


Joba is really getting his grove back too, could have a legit 8th inning guy now.

Tigers get rid of JD would be a complete Leyland move.

 

[navamind]

Other than Fister was a #4....

A #4 on the Tigers... and a #2 on most teams.

 

[navamind]

ESPN headline: "Tigers end Royals' streak behind P Sanchez"

 

[navamind]

He's not the second starter in Washington either, is he? (He wasn't in Seatle.)

Zimmermann, Strasburg and Gonzalez aren't exactly scrubs.

Fister actually had the best ERA among Mariners starters in 2011 before he got traded (yes, ahead of Felix)... and yet, he was 3-12. Fister had a 3.29 ERA in 440.2 innings as a Tiger.

 

[dougplayer]

+1

KC Royals are the best team in baseball this month so far. 13-4 in June with the best run differential.

wow best this month?? a whole 19 days into this month to

 

[dougplayer]

Oh gosh, you're really sensitive..! are you female?

- The Tigers rotation is average. How you can sit there and say they're one of the best is comical. Tigers starters have been giving up anywhere from 7-10 ER's a start lately. Team ERA for starters is 3.98 which is 8th best out of 15 AL teams.

- Over the last 7 days, worst in the AL. 5.32 team ERA 42 ER in 71 IP

- The best hitter on the planet is Troy Tulowitzki, not on the Tigers..

- As far as saying it would take a modern day miracle, I was exaggerating my statements. This is a smack talk thread, people like you need to stop taking stuff to heart. Where is your sense of humor?

- Credibility and fear. I'm not here to gain any credibility from Tigers fans or anyone for that matter. It's an internet forum folks! I don't take this seriously and I'll never meet anyone from here. Second, as a diehard Yankees fan I don't 'fear' any team in baseball. Every time you say I fear the Tigers you make me laugh, literally.

- I'm as real as a baseball fan you'll come across, the difference is I like to talk smack and have fun during the long season. As I said earlier, try and pull your sense of humor from your ass, get a beer and some nuts, and have fun! Don't take what I say so seriously.

over the last 7 games.?? wow. cherry picking yankee fan!

 

[Cleaves2000]

The best hitter on the planet is not tulo....hes one of my favorite players and the leader on my fantasy team, but take him away from coors and hes nowhere near the best on the planet....that is miggy until someone takes it away.....my bet is trout, puig, or abreu for the future

 

[navamind]

wow best this month?? a whole 19 days into this month to

KC Royals are the best team in baseball this month so far. 13-4 in June with the best run differential.

kthxbai

 

[Fountain City Blues]

A #4 on the Tigers... and a #2 on most teams.

Hell, his fWAR was more suggestive of a #1.

 

[da55bums]

wow best this month?? a whole 19 days into this month to

thats 2/3's of the month, its not like its 6 or 7 days into the month.


Hey at least no predictions from you about the Tigers taking the lead and holding it by May 1st, June 1st, July 1st, etc

The window is closing for Verlander/Miggy....if Verlander would hurry up and goes under the knife and they may get 1 more shot when he returns.

 

[navamind]

Hell, his fWAR was more suggestive of a #1.

I prefer bWAR, but even then:

2011: 5.2 in 216.1 IP (6th in AL)
2012: 3.3 in 161.2 IP (for a guy that missed about 10 starts, 3.3 is very good)
2013: 4.1 in 208.2 IP (just outside the top 10, Tillman was 10th at 4.4)
2014: 0.9 in 49.2 IP

 

[dougplayer]

trout will be even fatter soon. so cross him off the future list

 

[Fountain City Blues]

wow best this month?? a whole 19 days into this month to

While the Mariners, Dodgers, and Angels will all be challenging most likely, The odds of a in-month collapse is pretty unlikely. The offense really doesn't have to be very good to win games so much as it has to be competent.

That isn't all that inconceivable considering that likely entails Butler hitting closer to his career norms. The team can "hit," but it has always needed more baserunners.

Now if Yost could figure out that Aoki and Dyson are perfect platoon partners...

 

[Fountain City Blues]

I prefer bWAR, but even then:

2011: 5.2 in 216.1 IP (6th in AL)
2012: 3.3 in 161.2 IP (for a guy that missed about 10 starts, 3.3 is very good)
2013: 4.1 in 208.2 IP (just outside the top 10, Tillman was 10th at 4.4)
2014: 0.9 in 49.2 IP

Wouldn't a #1 be in the top 20% of starters, no? Top 15 would be a #1 in my humble opinion.

 

[navamind]

The best hitter on the planet is not tulo....hes one of my favorite players and the leader on my fantasy team, but take him away from coors and hes nowhere near the best on the planet....that is miggy until someone takes it away.....my bet is trout, puig, or abreu for the future

Coors is a fair point, though even if he hit elsewhere, he'd still be among the best offensive shortstops in the league (career .274/.348/.471 hitter on road). And combine that with his defense and he's still a top 3 shortstop.

But who knows what kind of numbers he'd put up outside of Coors? Larry Walker was still a very good hitter after he got traded to the Cards by the Rockies. Batted .286/.387/.520 (134 OPS+) in 144 games with the Cards before retiring. And Walker's home/away splits are huge (though his .865 OPS on the road is still quite good). Walker was becoming a great hitter before he went to Colorado too (he had a 128 OPS+ as an Expo, 151 in his last year with the Expos (granted it was a strike-shortened year).

 

[da55bums]

While the Mariners, Dodgers, and Angels will all be challenging most likely, The odds of a in-month collapse is pretty unlikely. The offense really doesn't have to be very good to win games so much as it has to be competent.

That isn't all that inconceivable considering that likely entails Butler hitting closer to his career norms. The team can "hit," but it has always needed more baserunners.

Now if Yost could figure out that Aoki and Dyson are perfect platoon partners...

should have pinch ran Dyson for Aoki in todays game when Aoki winced...SB would have avoided the DP.

 

[Fountain City Blues]

should have pinch ran Dyson for Aoki in todays game when Aoki winced...SB would have avoided the DP.

Dyson started actually. Gordon was apparently ill. Vomiting and what not during BP. Unfortunate. Really could have used him during some AB's with runners on.

 

[Fountain City Blues]

Coors is a fair point, though even if he hit elsewhere, he'd still be among the best offensive shortstops in the league (career .274/.348/.471 hitter on road). And combine that with his defense and he's still a top 3 shortstop.

But who knows what kind of numbers he'd put up outside of Coors? Larry Walker was still a very good hitter after he got traded to the Cards by the Rockies. Batted .286/.387/.520 (134 OPS+) in 144 games with the Cards before retiring. And Walker's home/away splits are huge (though his .865 OPS on the road is still quite good). Walker was becoming a great hitter before he went to Colorado too (he had a 128 OPS+ as an Expo, 151 in his last year with the Expos (granted it was a strike-shortened year).

Well, they try to adjust it. I believe wRC+ is park adjusted.

* At least at the MLB level- damn those minor league nerds and their lazy updating and what not.

 

[broncosmitty]

A #4 on the Tigers... and a #2 on most teams.

Just not a #2 on any team he's actually played for. I don't like the imaginary starter rankings personally. If Fister is your #2, you probably aren't stacked in the starter department.