A.L. Central Discussion 2016

[mr.hockey4242]

Kepler!!!

 

[broncosmitty]

Kepler!!!

 

[dougplayer]

Fuck that fucking Kepler kraut.

1948 really sets you off slinky. I bet 1940 through 1945 does to. Germans are pepole to. Don't Be racist

 

[dougplayer]

Down to 3. I called that right didn't i?????
Break up the Twins.
BAWWWWWWHAAAAA

 

[dougplayer]

The return of zimmy. I'am going to say 2. Yep. 2 after tonight.
Miggy 6 HRS after ASG. Just saying

 

[bksballer89]

Indians better wake up. I can't deal with Douglas running his fucking mouth

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

1948 really sets you off slinky. I bet 1940 through 1945 does to. Germans are pepole to. Don't Be racist

1948 doesn't set me off, it cracks me up. It was the last year that both the Indians and your precious faggots in Ann Arbor won a championship and you try to use it to get at me. It's funny, not troubling.

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

Indians better wake up. I can't deal with Douglas running his fucking mouth

Hi. I'm the AL Central Threads over the past two years. Have we met?

The talking meatball is going to run his fucking mouth regardless of how the Tigers or the rest of the division actually perform. That's the beauty that is Doug.

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

Miggy 6 HRS after ASG. Just saying

Hey! Just like Napoli, with two less HRs!

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

Break up the Twins.

Fuckin' A. They're monsters. Tribe's 4-7 against them this year. They own the Indians so far. Not unlike how the Indians own the Tigers, but not nearly as bad.

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

The Indians are 26-8 vs AL Central teams not from MIN.

The Twins are 6-21 vs AL Central teams not from CLE.

The Twins are 7-4 vs Cleveland.

Fucking bizarre. Nearly half of the Indians' intra-division losses have come against the worst team in the American League. I was hopeful that when the Indians won the series against the Twins last month that this whole sordid affair was behind us. The 22-11 shellacking the Twins put on the Indians over the last two games proves that is decidedly not the case.

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

Indians are 11-14 since their 14-game win streak ended on July 2nd.

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

All this nonsense is making my dick itch.

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

Germans are pepole to. Don't Be racist

I'm half German, ya meatball.

 

[TrustMeIamRight]

Indians are 11-14 since their 14-game win streak ended on July 2nd.

That is really bizarre. They look like World Killers against Detroit. Yet they seem to struggle against everyone else, not really struggle, but only a couple games over .500.

Detroit looks horrible against the Indians and like World Killers against everyone else.


I still think the Indians will take the Central, but Detroit is getting JD Martinez back and Upton has looked like the player we thought he'd be recently. With the surprise of Cameron Maybin being much better than I ever thought he'd be and Kinsler having a monster year. Detroit is going to have a pretty potent lineup going forward.

They also announced today that Fulmer may have a start or two pushed back, but that he won't be shut down. They said, while his innings are up, he is extremely efficient on his pitch count. He is around 1500 pitches right now. To put it in perspective with comparable guys. Ordorizzi went over 3000 and Yordano Ventura went to 2900 their rookie years. Syndegaard and DeGrom went to around 2300-2400. Even if he threw 100 pitches in his last 8-10 starts. That only puts him at 2300-2500 pitches.

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

They also announced today that Fulmer may have a start or two pushed back, but that he won't be shut down. They said, while his innings are up, he is extremely efficient on his pitch count. He is around 1500 pitches right now. To put it in perspective with comparable guys. Ordorizzi went over 3000 and Yordano Ventura went to 2900 their rookie years. Syndegaard and DeGrom went to around 2300-2400. Even if he threw 100 pitches in his last 8-10 starts. That only puts him at 2300-2500 pitches.

That's reasonable and could very well be the case, but flipping back and forth between IP and total pitches is a little misleading.

Odorizzi and Ventura also pitched about 25% more innings in the seasons before their rookie years, so you'd expect them to go further.

 

[TrustMeIamRight]

That's reasonable and could very well be the case, but flipping back and forth between IP and total pitches is a little misleading.

Odorizzi and Ventura also pitched about 25% more innings in the seasons before their rookie years, so you'd expect them to go further.

Innings pitched isn't the best qualifier though. It is the amount of pitches that really matters. Fulmer has only hit 100 pitches in a game 4 times this year, yet he is averaging over 6 innings per start (this is a guess, but he seems to go 6-8 every start)

If he were averaging 100 pitches and only 5 IP per start -- he'd Only have 150 IP in 30 starts, but 3000 pitches thrown

If he were averaging 100 pitches and lasting say 6 1/3 IP per start -- he'd hit 190 IP in 30 starts, and have the same 3000 pitches thrown.

So innings pitched can be misleading if a pitcher is efficient, as Fulmer has been with Detroit so far.

 

[Iffster]

The return of zimmy. I'am going to say 2. Yep. 2 after tonight.
Miggy 6 HRS after ASG. Just saying

Did doug accept the reduced ($200) bet with slinky?

Why do I ask? He'll never bet....all talk, no balls.

 

[dougplayer]

I'm half German, ya meatball.[/QUOTE

Indians better wake up. I can't deal with Douglas running his fucking mouth

You and slinky just can't handle the truth

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

Innings pitched isn't the best qualifier though. It is the amount of pitches that really matters. Fulmer has only hit 100 pitches in a game 4 times this year, yet he is averaging over 6 innings per start (this is a guess, but he seems to go 6-8 every start)

If he were averaging 100 pitches and only 5 IP per start -- he'd Only have 150 IP in 30 starts, but 3000 pitches thrown

If he were averaging 100 pitches and lasting say 6 1/3 IP per start -- he'd hit 190 IP in 30 starts, and have the same 3000 pitches thrown.

So innings pitched can be misleading if a pitcher is efficient, as Fulmer has been with Detroit so far.

I understand your point. My point is that the other two threw more pitches in 2013 (pre-rookie seasons) than Fulmer did last year, so you would expect them to throw more pitches (and innings) in their rookie seasons than Fulmer is in his.

He may be more efficient in regards to pitches/inning, but they're still risking him the further he goes into 2016. For his sake, I hope he handles it in stride. For Doug's sake, I hope he implodes and is never the same again.