Game Thread: 4/13 Rockheads @ MadBum

[msgkings322]

I'm telling you - dude sucks. Can't hit, slipping defensively.

Well, he can't hit. Not very often anyway.

 

[tzill]

Well, he can't hit. Not very often anyway.

Yup. Stupid trade. Not an upgrade.

 

[msgkings322]

Yup. Stupid trade. Not an upgrade.

Moving the goalposts, plus strawmanning.

 

[tzill]

Moving the goalposts, plus strawmanning.

Moving the goalposts, plus strawmanning.

 

[msgkings322]

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Not surprised, you think a lot of wrong things

 

[tzill]

Not surprised, you think a lot of wrong things

Including thinking Pillar was an upgrade and that Hollturd isn't a good pitcher.

 

[msgkings322]

Including thinking Pillar was an upgrade and that Hollturd isn't a good pitcher.

Those claims are fine.

The wrong ones were saying Pillar was a good hitter (he isn't) and that Holland sucks (he doesn't, he's an average 3-4 type)

 

[LHG]

Those claims are fine.

The wrong ones were saying Pillar was a good hitter (he isn't) and that Holland sucks (he doesn't, he's an average 3-4 type)

Looking at BBRef, here's the WAR for Mac Williamson and Pillar in 2018:
Mac - 0.5 in 28 games
Pillar - 2.5 in 142 games

Assume that Mac got to play 142 games in 2018, had he stayed the course, he would have posted . . . a 2.5 WAR. Here is the kicker for me. Mac's dWAR, in those 28 games, equaled Pillar's for the 142 games. Sure, Mac's defense could have fallen apart. His offense could have also gotten better. I understand that small sample size isn't everything, but it still can be predictive. Pillar's WAR, thus far with SF, suggests that he'll post a 2.85 WAR if he continues on his current path and plays every game the rest of the season.

 

[tzill]

Those claims are fine.

The wrong ones were saying Pillar was a good hitter (he isn't) and that Holland sucks (he doesn't, he's an average 3-4 type)

I never claimed that. In fact, I said JUST THE OPPOSITE.

But hey, don't let the facts get in the way of a good rant.

 

[tzill]

Looking at BBRef, here's the WAR for Mac Williamson and Pillar in 2018:
Mac - 0.5 in 28 games
Pillar - 2.5 in 142 games

Assume that Mac got to play 142 games in 2018, had he stayed the course, he would have posted . . . a 2.5 WAR. Here is the kicker for me. Mac's dWAR, in those 28 games, equaled Pillar's for the 142 games. Sure, Mac's defense could have fallen apart. His offense could have also gotten better. I understand that small sample size isn't everything, but it still can be predictive. Pillar's WAR, thus far with SF, suggests that he'll post a 2.85 WAR if he continues on his current path and plays every game the rest of the season.

Here's the problem. dWAR is notoriously a noisy stat. It's not particularly useful over a whole season, much less 28 games. So, no, it's pretty much accepted by the statheads that dWAR over less than 250 games isn't very predictive. If Pillar were to put up 2.5-3.0 WAR this year, I'd be pretty happy.

 

[jeep99tj]

Pillar gets Player of the Week.