Series Thread: 3) Philadelphia Sixers vs 6) Brooklyn Nets

[flyerhawk]

So while I do think it is a dirty play to do that, let's not pretend Embiid was trying to actually kick the shooter.

If you want to call it bush league or cheap fine but it wasn't dirty.

 

[tlance]

If you want to call it bush league or cheap fine but it wasn't dirty.

I think that is a fair compromise.

 

[bksballer89]

If you want to call it bush league or cheap fine but it wasn't dirty.

Let's go with bush league

 

[bksballer89]

L2M states Allen was fouled on the critical play.

 

[Sparhawk]

L2M states Allen was fouled on the critical play.

No mention of the Dinwiddie carry that wasn’t called?

Saltiness, thou I have tasted....

 

[bksballer89]

No mention of the Dinwiddie carry that wasn’t called?

Saltiness, thou I have tasted....

I'm not sure. I didn't review it. Never knew. I just happened to come across that tweet this afternoon

Not a fan of the L2M because you can't change anything even if the refs screwed up every call in the final 2 minutes

 

[bksballer89]

No mention of the Dinwiddie carry that wasn’t called?

Saltiness, thou I have tasted....

Just read an article on espn and the carry was mentioned as well.

There was one other missed call, as the league said Nets guard Spencer Dinwiddie should've been called for a carry with 1:45 remaining.

NBA says Nets' Allen was fouled late in Game 4

 

[flyerhawk]

I'm not sure. I didn't review it. Never knew. I just happened to come across that tweet this afternoon

Not a fan of the L2M because you can't change anything even if the refs screwed up every call in the final 2 minutes

L2M shows that there are missed/blown calls in pretty much every game in the last 2 minutes. Kinda unavoidable because the refs don't have perfect views of every play and they can't review each play and keep the game watchable.

 

[bksballer89]

L2M shows that there are missed/blown calls in pretty much every game in the last 2 minutes. Kinda unavoidable because the refs don't have perfect views of every play and they can't review each play and keep the game watchable.

Yeah it is kinda pointless. Just gives fans actual proof that the refs may have screwed up lol.

I would prefer to give coaches a challenge in the final 2 minutes to challenge anything they want and get rid of the L2M

 

[msgkings322]

Yeah it is kinda pointless. Just gives fans actual proof that the refs may have screwed up lol.

I would prefer to give coaches a challenge in the final 2 minutes to challenge anything they want and get rid of the L2M

I think that would be a mistake, would kill the excitement at end of games. And be a free timeout

 

[bksballer89]

I think that would be a mistake, would kill the excitement at end of games. And be a free timeout

Reviewing out of bounds play already do that

 

[Sparhawk]

Reviewing out of bounds play already do that

Champions League game in soccer had a goal ruled offsides by video review from the booth.
Ref just held his hand to his headset, then waved off the goal. It was fairly fast and easy to determine.

If the NBA is going to tell us what they missed, why not have a review team in place just to review the last two minutes of every game. Shouldn't be that difficult for NBA refs to wear headsets if a soccer center ref wears them. For that matter, just have them review the entire game and signal down whenever a call is missed. Really only takes 15-30 seconds to determine if a ball went out of bounds off of someone or hit the backboard on a block.

 

[knowyourenemy]

I think that is a fair point.

But at the same time, Butler and Embiid pretty much said that they will do the exact same thing next time it goes down like this too.

So if Dudley does get suspended, so does Butler.

In that lense, I don't think either should be suspended.

But expect a short leash on all the primary players in this drama for game 5. Simmons included.

And Brett Brown had better be in his players' ear telling them to be above the physical stuff. Because if game 5 is going Philly's way, guess what Dudley is going to do? A similar response could get one or two of the Philly stars a seat on the pine for the next game, which could be devastating.

I didn’t really see anything wrong with what Embiid did. I thought dudley overreacted so it’s hard for me to blame Jimmy either, but I guess I understand that.

In the end, I suppose I’m ok with no suspension. I really just don’t want him starting crap again.

 

[Four4Four]

Yeah it is kinda pointless. Just gives fans actual proof that the refs may have screwed up lol.

I would prefer to give coaches a challenge in the final 2 minutes to challenge anything they want and get rid of the L2M

Also it would be nice to hear that the official responsible for the call, would be fined and/or suspended for the next scheduled playoff game.

 

[flyerhawk]

Also it would be nice to hear that the official responsible for the call, would be fined and/or suspended for the next scheduled playoff game.

I think you should be very cautious about fining officials for missed calls. It can lead to some really troubling netative incentives.

 

[bksballer89]

I think you should be very cautious about fining officials for missed calls. It can lead to some really troubling netative incentives.

Yeah I agree. Unless it is a blatant missed call. A call like the one on Saturday shouldn't lead to a fine/suspension. These guys aren't perfect

 

[Four4Four]

I think you should be very cautious about fining officials for missed calls. It can lead to some really troubling netative incentives.

No not for that call. Just saying for a missed call that determines whether someone advances, we should know if that ref got fined.

 

[flyerhawk]

Yeah I agree. Unless it is a blatant missed call. A call like the one on Saturday shouldn't lead to a fine/suspension. These guys aren't perfect

Yeah. Fines should be limited to really egregious blown calls where the refs CLEARLY should have called the play properly. I'm thinking Rams-Saints conference finals game.

 

[eaglesnut]

Let's go with bush league

What a fucking racist.

 

[tlance]

I didn’t really see anything wrong with what Embiid did. I thought dudley overreacted so it’s hard for me to blame Jimmy either, but I guess I understand that.

In the end, I suppose I’m ok with no suspension. I really just don’t want him starting crap again.

Agreed.

Embiid' rep, his press conference antics and the melee after earned him the flagrant. The play wasn't bad.

More talking about how Butler said he would back up his teammate (as he should) and that Embiid would pay the fine. They were kind of making light of the whole thing.

No suspensions way to go for sure, IMO.