2nd round qb's and overly optimistic fans

[Flyingiguana]

No he wasn't. The year that he got injured was the only "elite" year he put up. If he were elite, like Brady, he would have returned to his status. He's been very average since that injury. I think that one year is the aberration.

This still rocks:

some can't come back from injury. i think it affected his throwing strength and it was called a career threatening injury.

 

[wartyOne]

some can't come back from injury. i think it affected his throwing strength and it was called a career threatening injury.

Fair enough, but one year does not an elite QB make.

 

[Flyingiguana]

The first pick overall is 50/50 when the pick is a QB. How is that not a toss up? There are as many David Carrs as there are Eli Mannings (I guess you could say the same for Russells versus Peytons).

And again, that list is highly indicative of a very important fact. 1st round QB's are allowed a much longer leash, because they come with a much higher price. The fact that there are so many first round busts is exactly the argument.

Who would you say is better of the following, or in order if you prefer: Tom Brady, Vince Young, Jamarcus Russell, Alex Smith, Drew Brees, Ben Roethlisberger, Joe Montana, Donovan McNabb, Cade McNown, Tony Romo, Jeff Garcia, Tony Banks? Hell, throw in Dan Marino and Peyton Manning.

even if there are a large number of busts, it's still a much better % than 2nd rounders. if a qb shows ability they will have a longer leash. there isn't enough quality starters to fill 32 teams so plenty of qb's taken after the 1st round will have opportunities.

kap should sit and learn behind a vet as a back up. in the event of an injury, maybe he can showcase his ability like warner and brady did. but to simply say 'o we got kap, who cares what happens with smith' is just stupid. we would have to replace smith, with whom i don't know.

 

[wartyOne]

even if there are a large number of busts, it's still a much better % than 2nd rounders. if a qb shows ability they will have a longer leash. there isn't enough quality starters to fill 32 teams so plenty of qb's taken after the 1st round will have opportunities.

kap should sit and learn behind a vet as a back up. in the event of an injury, maybe he can showcase his ability like warner and brady did. but to simply say 'o we got kap, who cares what happens with smith' is just stupid. we would have to replace smith, with whom i don't know.

If a QB has a higher price tag they will have a longer leash. That's just the nature of the business. I'd have to run more numbers than what I have, but I don't think the percentages bear out that a 1st round QB has a higher success rate than that of 2nd rounders. I'll do more research. I could be wrong. It's late. I hafta go. Cheers, Iguana.