2025 season thread

[Sharkonabicycle]

if he flat out balls this season we are screwed. Thats my feeling. Like i stated a few days/weeks ago either resign him now or trade him if you get good comp for him like a 2nd in either 2025 or 2026 would be good comp.

I agree with that.. or maybe you can get him on a cheaper extension. If we draft a DB early (which I'm afraid we'll do) and then Woolen goes HAM... we're right back to spending a ton of money or draft capital on a fuckin' secondary while ignoring the trenches, AGAIN.. ugh.

 

[MrS]

Woolen is a guy that will get paid and quiet quit. Trade him now and get value.

 

[Sharkonabicycle]

Woolen is a guy that will get paid and quiet quit. Trade him now and get value.

That's all assuming we could get a 2nd now (meaning a 1st next year, or 2nd+ next year).

I would DOUBT any team is offering that for him. All speculation.

If the best we can get is a 4th now or a 3rd in 2026, I'd say just keep him. More flexibility in the draft. And then if he does breakout in 2025, you could resign him and not have to worry about drafting DB at all in 26. Giving Mac another season might help.

 

[Screamin12th]

That's all assuming we could get a 2nd now (meaning a 1st next year, or 2nd+ next year).

I would DOUBT any team is offering that for him. All speculation.

If the best we can get is a 4th now or a 3rd in 2026, I'd say just keep him. More flexibility in the draft. And then if he does breakout in 2025, you could resign him and not have to worry about drafting DB at all in 26. Giving Mac another season might help.

Yes, but they have to give him a contract "NOW" when the chances are it would be cheaper than trying to bid for him as a FA and if he balls out like he can then they would just flat out lose him in 2026 for nothing but MAYBE a comp pick the season after that ( 2027 ). They need to work on a deal now ( in the next 4 months ) OR Trade him no if ands or buts about it.

 

[HaroldSeattle]

Yes, but they have to give him a contract "NOW" when the chances are it would be cheaper than trying to bid for him as a FA and if he balls out like he can then they would just flat out lose him in 2026 for nothing but MAYBE a comp pick the season after that ( 2027 ). They need to work on a deal now ( in the next 4 months ) OR Trade him no if ands or buts about it.

Would depend on what they can get in a trade, won't it?

 

[Screamin12th]

Would depend on what they can get in a trade, won't it?

Well yes, but if they can get a good offer then go after it. Im just saying they are at the point now where they can't wait no longer. Sign him to a 3 or 4 year deal or, right now when he has value do something. I guess they could if they had to, use him as a in season trade bait but still. Doing nothing means he walks or they have to pay more to keep him.

 

[HaroldSeattle]

Doing nothing means he walks or they have to pay more to keep him.

Not necessarily, or not necessarily a ton more. Chances are he plays good enough but not outstanding in which case they should be able to sign him to a reasonable contract. If he plays great of course it going to cost more maybe a lot more, but then your OK paying up to a point. If he plays poorly then maybe a prove it contract. this is the dilemma when your nor sure how the player will do in the final year of a contract.

 

[Sharkonabicycle]

Well yes, but if they can get a good offer then go after it. Im just saying they are at the point now where they can't wait no longer. Sign him to a 3 or 4 year deal or, right now when he has value do something. I guess they could if they had to, use him as a in season trade bait but still. Doing nothing means he walks or they have to pay more to keep him.

Well, the agent and Woolen may not want to sign. They may say, "We are not interested in an extension right now... we'd like to play out 2025." Certainly the agent knows this... and the agent is certainly better on the fact that Woolen will improve in 2025. In part due to the fact that Mac is now in his 2nd year, and also the fact that Seattle's D should be better this year given a year in the system, stability at ILB, and D Law, and whatever they can snag in the draft.

Right now Seattle would be buying quite low, and the agent knows this. He knows that if Woolen has another similar year they're right back in the same position (Woolen is still young) and if he breaks out, a MUCH larger contract is coming. It'd be stupid of Woolen/Agent to sign right now.

I mean injury is always a concern... but eh...

 

[flyerhawk]

@Screamin12th Congrats! Your boy is back!

 

[HaroldSeattle]

@Screamin12th Congrats! Your boy is back!

Is this a sign that the Seahawks don't take a flyer on a QB this draft? I'm OK if they decide not to draft a QB this season.

 

[flyerhawk]

Is this a sign that the Seahawks don't take a flyer on a QB this draft? I'm OK if they decide not to draft a QB this season.

Yeah there isn't anyone in this draft that I'm really that interested in. I guess taking someone like Gabriel, Leonard, Ewers on day 3 would be ok.

 

[Sharkonabicycle]

@Screamin12th Congrats! Your boy is back!

lol I just imagine Schneider jacking off to a picture of Lock in his office...

Whatever. Sounds like Seattle is not going to force the issue at QB this year, unless someone falls in the mid round and they just cut Howell. Rumor is Seattle would like to draft a QB but wont force the issue. I think as they're having some of these interviews for mid round picks, they're prob. just not impressed which makes sense. Don't force a QB issue now unless one falls - which could happen. This draft feels reminiscent of 2022 and Ward going #1 overall is kind of laughable, but whatever. The lack of overall amazing talent for #1 kind of forces it.

You have:

Some DECENT OL in the mid rounds (need)
WRs all over the place (need)
Some TE talent (need if you want to ditch Fant)
Decent Nose tackles (big need)

And for your 1st round there's SOME stuff that might fall that's worthy of the 18th pick. Johnson, Warren, Booker, Membou, Grant, Banks... I think you just take. Booker/Banks are not ZBS guys, but they're just good players. Teach them for the love of God. And Booker is the last thing you want in a ZBS, but the guy just moves people. If every team plays against your ZBS, you have to adapt a bit, and Booker will just plow people into the next level. Sadly, all these guys will prob. be gone.

Emmanwori is the only player (to my knowledge) we've visited twice with... I am not a fan of the pick, but if Mac thinks that's the FINAL ingredient to make the defense top 10, then fine. Bryant and Love are still far above average safeties, so I don't get it... but whatever. I'd rather get someone like Grant so Murphy can slip into a 3 tech or outside DE and use his motor one on one. I know a NT type in round 1 seems insane, but Grant can get pressure, is a smart player/hard worker, and it seems teams are getting back to the run more.. Add Grant to this DL and you can plug whoever the F you want in at safety.

 

[Screamin12th]

@Screamin12th Congrats! Your boy is back!

I will take Lock over any QB in this draft that we have a shot at drafting in the 2nd or later. Dart wont be there. Also i think he is a upgrade over Sam Howell. I love Drew Lock's size and arm talent and believe he just needs playing time.

 

[HaroldSeattle]

Some DECENT OL in the mid rounds (need)
WRs all over the place (need)
Some TE talent (need if you want to ditch Fant)
Decent Nose tackles (big need)

Think I'd put it like this:

LG Biggest need on the roster hands down Don't even have a LG on the roster, some folks think Haynes could be one but has only played right guard EVER. Is he a NFL quality starter? 3rd round pick from small school who lacks strength, didn't impress the coaching staff last season at all. No other player on the roster mentioned as a possibility to play or back up at LG. Zabel is picture perfect for the job.

WR a need, could use another z type WR , don't need any more slot types. Not a urgent need for 2025

Corner Only one corner under contract for 2026 so maybe a need.

RG The ones on the roster seem lacking so yeah a need.

Center I'd like a upgrade but JS seems to like what the Seahawks have. I'd list it as a need for better results.

TE Seems like everyone but JS thinks Fant is unimpressive and not worth what he is making. Barner looks promising. Seems like the Seahawks are riding with what they have.

Nose tackle Is a need of sorts although with Reed, Murphy, Williams the nose tackle would get limited snaps. Can find a run stuffer late in the draft think Cam"Ron Jackson Florida would be prefect fit, probably could draft 5th or 6th round

 

[Sharkonabicycle]

Think I'd put it like this:

LG Biggest need on the roster hands down Don't even have a LG on the roster, some folks think Haynes could be one but has only played right guard EVER. Is he a NFL quality starter? 3rd round pick from small school who lacks strength, didn't impress the coaching staff last season at all. No other player on the roster mentioned as a possibility to play or back up at LG. Zabel is picture perfect for the job.

WR a need, could use another z type WR , don't need any more slot types. Not a urgent need for 2025

Corner Only one corner under contract for 2026 so maybe a need.

RG The ones on the roster seem lacking so yeah a need.

Center I'd like a upgrade but JS seems to like what the Seahawks have. I'd list it as a need for better results.

TE Seems like everyone but JS thinks Fant is unimpressive and not worth what he is making. Bowers looks promising. Seems like the Seahawks are riding with what they have.

Nose tackle Is a need of sorts although with Reed, Murphy, Williams the nose tackle would get limited snaps. Can find a run stuffer late in the draft think Cam"Ron Jackson Florida would be prefect fit, probably could draft 5th or 6th round

I assume with Bowers you meant Barner on the tight end

 

[HaroldSeattle]

I assume with Bowers you meant Barner on the tight end

Oh yeah.

 

[Screamin12th]

Think I'd put it like this:

LG Biggest need on the roster hands down Don't even have a LG on the roster, some folks think Haynes could be one but has only played right guard EVER. Is he a NFL quality starter? 3rd round pick from small school who lacks strength, didn't impress the coaching staff last season at all. No other player on the roster mentioned as a possibility to play or back up at LG. Zabel is picture perfect for the job.

WR a need, could use another z type WR , don't need any more slot types. Not a urgent need for 2025

Corner Only one corner under contract for 2026 so maybe a need.

RG The ones on the roster seem lacking so yeah a need.

Center I'd like a upgrade but JS seems to like what the Seahawks have. I'd list it as a need for better results.

TE Seems like everyone but JS thinks Fant is unimpressive and not worth what he is making. Barner looks promising. Seems like the Seahawks are riding with what they have.

Nose tackle Is a need of sorts although with Reed, Murphy, Williams the nose tackle would get limited snaps. Can find a run stuffer late in the draft think Cam"Ron Jackson Florida would be prefect fit, probably could draft 5th or 6th round

Tackle ( RT ) is a need. Lucas has a cronic Knee and like Pete said when he was here " No, this is a cronic issue, it's not going away" WR i agree we need someone thats not a slot and MVS and Kupp are on the wrong side of 30 and Kupp is a slot guy which is JSN's job. Corner they need to either hand out an extention or get someone in here.

TE i LOVE Barner, not that i think he is a all pro but the guy plays with fire and looks like he enjoys playing. He has that desire i wished Geno would have had. I like those type of guys the ones that look like they just love playing. Bobo, Brady Russell, Barner.

 

[Anointed One]

Could be a smoke screen... Maybe trying to get other teams to think they're not going QB in round 1 or 2...

 

[HaroldSeattle]

Tackle ( RT ) is a need. Lucas has a cronic Knee and like Pete said when he was here " No, this is a cronic issue, it's not going away" WR i agree we need someone thats not a slot and MVS and Kupp are on the wrong side of 30 and Kupp is a slot guy which is JSN's job. Corner they need to either hand out an extention or get someone in here.

TE i LOVE Barner, not that i think he is a all pro but the guy plays with fire and looks like he enjoys playing. He has that desire i wished Geno would have had. I like those type of guys the ones that look like they just love playing. Bobo, Brady Russell, Barner.

A back up tackle is a need and a back ILB also.

 

[Screamin12th]

A back up tackle is a need and a back ILB also.

Jones helped the defense out a lot and that just shows how important linebackers are. Jones isnt a great linebacker he is a good linebacker and we could do better. He is like a Malcolm Smith level linebacker not a KJ or Bobby. I wouldn't mind landing Campbell.