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2025 Patriots Draft

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At a minimum I see him as camp competition. In his limited action he was serviceable. Just another reason why I think we should get one of the skill players with the first pick. See what the OTs we select this season have and if there is still a void get a LT next season when we don't have so many holes to fill.
Well, I can't agree with taking a skill player over an OT, but if it happens I will live with.
 

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I don't disagree. I saw rumors for what they're worth with the Bears giving up #10, 41 and a 1st next year. Now that's a deal I can get behind.
Yeah if we land a deal like that you take it. Then just grab the best OT you can get at 10. I still think Banks will be there and Simmons.
 

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@YankeeRebel, I'm not sold on either Simmons or Banks. If I had to choose I'd pick Simmons. At #10, I think you can still trade back and get either of them.
 

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There may be greater value in a trade from a team interested in him

Not sure there is going to be great value in trades for this draft for the seller. There was talk of the Bears wanting to move up. I think it was Ian Rapaport that said after someone mentioned it "And there are 6 teams ahead of them wanting to move back."
 

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Not sure there is going to be great value in trades for this draft for the seller. There was talk of the Bears wanting to move up. I think it was Ian Rapaport that said after someone mentioned it "And there are 6 teams ahead of them wanting to move back."
I think if Carter or Jeanty are there there may be some interest
 

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I think if Carter or Jeanty are there there may be some interest

Carter yes...Jeanty is a little lower just because of positional value and depth of the position in the draft. I don't think many are going to be willing to trade next year's 1st for Jeanty.
 

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Has everyone given up on Cadean Wallace? We only got a glimpse of what he could do when Lowe went down and before he got injured.
I have not given up on Wallace yet but......
This is how I remember him:

"Wallace was penalized for failing to report as an eligible receiver in overtime of New England's Week 2 loss, and he picked up right where he left off on Thursday. The rookie was flagged three times on Thursday, first for an illegal formation call in the first quarter. Wallace was also called for holding on back-to-back third down plays in the third quarter, one of which nullified an Austin Hooper catch that would have put the Patriots at the New York two-yard line and a shot at their only touchdown of the night."
 

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I have not given up on Wallace yet but......
This is how I remember him:

"Wallace was penalized for failing to report as an eligible receiver in overtime of New England's Week 2 loss, and he picked up right where he left off on Thursday. The rookie was flagged three times on Thursday, first for an illegal formation call in the first quarter. Wallace was also called for holding on back-to-back third down plays in the third quarter, one of which nullified an Austin Hooper catch that would have put the Patriots at the New York two-yard line and a shot at their only touchdown of the night."
Debbie Downer
 

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I have not given up on Wallace yet but......
This is how I remember him:

"Wallace was penalized for failing to report as an eligible receiver in overtime of New England's Week 2 loss, and he picked up right where he left off on Thursday. The rookie was flagged three times on Thursday, first for an illegal formation call in the first quarter. Wallace was also called for holding on back-to-back third down plays in the third quarter, one of which nullified an Austin Hooper catch that would have put the Patriots at the New York two-yard line and a shot at their only touchdown of the night."
I was joking when I said yes, obviously we let him compete for a job but we still need to look at options in the draft
 

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"Wallace was penalized for failing to report as an eligible receiver in overtime of New England's Week 2 loss, and he picked up right where he left off on Thursday. The rookie was flagged three times on Thursday, first for an illegal formation call in the first quarter. Wallace was also called for holding on back-to-back third down plays in the third quarter, one of which nullified an Austin Hooper catch that would have put the Patriots at the New York two-yard line and a shot at their only touchdown of the night."
Two things. Rookie inexperience and more, shitty coaching.

The entire O-Line sucked and it wasn't just being lousy players. Not a single bit of decent coaching. When a line has multiple penalties in a game, the coaches have to step up. First in the film room on Monday. Then bring in the entire line on Tuesday and start working with them on alignment and footwork.

On Wednesday, spend the first half or at least two hours working against the defense on every possible passing situation and for the final fifteen minutes having the RBs picking up a LB, CB or Safety blitzer. The payoff would have been enormous by December. The 2024 Pastriots coaching staff either didn't understand what was wrong, or didn't know WTF to do.

In the first mini camp after the draft, do what I just described above and you'll have a basic idea of who can or can't play a position on the OL. Immediately cut the guys who just can't do it and go find an equal number of undrafted kids and sign them up until the wheat is separated from the chaff. (BK book of Elementary school football coaching)
 

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Two things. Rookie inexperience and more, shitty coaching.

The entire O-Line sucked and it wasn't just being lousy players. Not a single bit of decent coaching. When a line has multiple penalties in a game, the coaches have to step up. First in the film room on Monday. Then bring in the entire line on Tuesday and start working with them on alignment and footwork.

On Wednesday, spend the first half or at least two hours working against the defense on every possible passing situation and for the final fifteen minutes having the RBs picking up a LB, CB or Safety blitzer. The payoff would have been enormous by December. The 2024 Pastriots coaching staff either didn't understand what was wrong, or didn't know WTF to do.

In the first mini camp after the draft, do what I just described above and you'll have a basic idea of who can or can't play a position on the OL. Immediately cut the guys who just can't do it and go find an equal number of undrafted kids and sign them up until the wheat is separated from the chaff. (BK book of Elementary school football coaching)
You omitted discipline or better lack there of. I doubt we'll see so many dumb penalties and mental mistakes this year.
 
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