2024 NFL Draft: The Quarterback Class

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[molsaniceman]

 

[ducky]

Caleb looked pretty good against the Vikes yesterday.

It is absolutely amazing what a difference a different playcaller can make even if it is the exact same offense.

 

[cdumler7]

Caleb looked pretty good against the Vikes yesterday.

It is absolutely amazing what a difference a different playcaller can make even if it is the exact same offense.

I would say fit matters almost as much as talent in today's NFL. I don't think Bo Nix is doing what he is doing say he went to Chicago instead of Denver. So yeah a different coach can make a QB look night and day different.

 

[Clayton]

I would say fit matters almost as much as talent in today's NFL. I don't think Bo Nix is doing what he is doing say he went to Chicago instead of Denver. So yeah a different coach can make a QB look night and day different.

Bryce Young seems to be a good example of that. Carolina brought in a coach that Stroud was "perfect" for and they picked Young instead and ended up firing their coach. QBs are so important, though. I dont understand why multiple teams were probably interested in Michael Penix at 8 and nobody tries to jump up and steal Nix before pick 12.

 

[cdumler7]

Bryce Young seems to be a good example of that. Carolina brought in a coach that Stroud was "perfect" for and they picked Young instead and ended up firing their coach. QBs are so important, though. I dont understand why multiple teams were probably interested in Michael Penix at 8 and nobody tries to jump up and steal Nix before pick 12.

So often fear of failure causes teams to pass on talent at the QB position. If you get it wrong oh boy every one is fired. I think back to the Broncos in 2018 I think it was. They had the 5th overall pick and were debating between Josh Allen and Bradley Chubb. They had just come out of the Paxton Lynch era of failure where they took an athletic QB that needed some work and Elway panicked not wanting to make the same mistake twice. So they took the edge guy. Chubb is a good player (when healthy) but nowhere near the franchise changer as that of Allen.

 

[cdumler7]

 

[Clayton]

So often fear of failure causes teams to pass on talent at the QB position. If you get it wrong oh boy every one is fired. I think back to the Broncos in 2018 I think it was. They had the 5th overall pick and were debating between Josh Allen and Bradley Chubb. They had just come out of the Paxton Lynch era of failure where they took an athletic QB that needed some work and Elway panicked not wanting to make the same mistake twice. So they took the edge guy. Chubb is a good player (when healthy) but nowhere near the franchise changer as that of Allen.

I think the past year or so we've seen coaches wise up a bit. Broncos kicked Russell Wilson to the curb. Packers kicked Aaron Rodgers to the curb. Raiders kicked Derek Carr to the curb although they're the Raiders.

You can have a risky QB. You can have an expensive QB. Risky and expensive? Go fishing in the draft instead. imo.

 

[cdumler7]

I think the past year or so we've seen coaches wise up a bit. Broncos kicked Russell Wilson to the curb. Packers kicked Aaron Rodgers to the curb. Raiders kicked Derek Carr to the curb although they're the Raiders.

You can have a risky QB. You can have an expensive QB. Risky and expensive? Go fishing in the draft instead. imo.

Mistake the Raiders made compared to the others is they really didn't have a plan at QB after Carr. Broncos knew they would be taking a QB in this draft. Payton pretty much talked about it nonstop of them needing to get this right. Packers obviously with Love knowing they have a guy in the wings ready to go.

I'm with you that I would rather take the risk and be wrong than continue to sit in that QB purgatory of taking ok veterans and paying them big money hoping they can be more than what they have shown so far in their career. Seems to just keep you in that midtier of the NFL where not bad enough to get a good QB but never good enough to compete for Super Bowls.

 

[Moab]

Mistake the Raiders made compared to the others is they really didn't have a plan at QB after Carr. Broncos knew they would be taking a QB in this draft. Payton pretty much talked about it nonstop of them needing to get this right. Packers obviously with Love knowing they have a guy in the wings ready to go.

I'm with you that I would rather take the risk and be wrong than continue to sit in that QB purgatory of taking ok veterans and paying them big money hoping they can be more than what they have shown so far in their career. Seems to just keep you in that midtier of the NFL where not bad enough to get a good QB but never good enough to compete for Super Bowls.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't the 49ers kick Garrapalo to the curb thinking they had Lance in the bullpen? I realize it worked out with Purdy, so maybe sometimes it's better to get lucky than be good.