2023 offseason thread

[DJ Fieri]

Harden hasn’t knocked any women out on video.

Maybe knocked them up.

But not out.

He’s a different kind of human garbage than Rice, Chris Brown, Joe Mixon, Kevin Porter Jr.

Harden getting lapdances yo !!!!!

 

[bksballer89]

 

[dtgold88]

You think the guy who traded Dame is likely to keep his job?

In the NBA every summer 90% of the teams are capped out and can’t pay people. The Blazers are in a position wherein they may have to overpay a young up and comer that is coming off a rookie deal. There are likely a dozen players that fit that bill every year. Expiring cap space is always valuable. If you’re willing to pay more than everyone else (and yes, they will have to overpay) you’re going to land talent on your roster.

Mostly agree but would think the space is more valuable for a UFA coming off 2nd deal. Seems like a guy off rookie deal who can get a max stays with his old team and not sure they want to overpay a guy who is not worthy of a max.

 

[The Q]

Mostly agree but would think the space is more valuable for a UFA coming off 2nd deal. Seems like a guy off rookie deal who can get a max stays with his old team and not sure they want to overpay a guy who is not worthy of a max.

Look at how no one paid reaves

 

[bksballer89]

Great article on bleacher report from Haynes regarding Lillard

Going to post the interesting stuff shortly

 

[bksballer89]

1) The Heat say they never had a legitimate opportunity to negotiate. Throughout the process, they felt Portland allowed emotions to get in the way of business. Lillard's camp believed it had become personal.Miami believes it could have included a third team and netted the Trail Blazers up to three first-round picks with the inclusion of Tyler Herro.

Frustrated with the lack of suitable offers, sources say the Trail Blazers ceased all communication with Lillard and Goodwin in early September.

Portland's rationale for keeping them in the dark was to prevent Goodwin from getting involved in potential deals behind the scenes.
For approximately three weeks, calls and texts to the Trail Blazers from Lillard and Goodwin went unanswered.

2) In late August, Goodwin suggested to Cronin that he meet with Lillard to mend the relationship in case his client were to return to the team. Cronin agreed, and they met at Lillard's Portland-area mansion on Sept. 5. It was the first time the two had spoken in quite some time.

With a little less than a month away from training camp opening, the two sat in the entertainment center of Lillard's home and the meeting lasted about an hour.

Lillard expressed his disappointment with how his situation had been handled, citing his steadfast commitment to the organization over the years. He questioned why there was no dialogue with Miami and expressed how it would be disheartening to be sent somewhere against his wishes.

According to sources, Portland had asked Lillard to sit out the final 10 games of the 2022-23 regular season to help the franchise improve its lottery odds. He was told the higher the draft pick, the better chance they had at using the pick to facilitate a trade for a proven veteran player. He reluctantly acquiesced to being shut down, citing a "calf injury."

In the Sept. 5 meeting, Cronin conveyed that if he was forced to do a deal with Miami, he had every intention of going after every attractable asset. Lillard knew then he was unlikely to end up in Miami.

 

[bksballer89]

Now the most shocking part and confirms Cronin is a POS

Lillard then said if a deal couldn't be worked out with the Heat, he would prefer to rescind his trade request and return to the Trail Blazers.
Cronin's response to the seven-time All-Star was that there was no coming back.

Lillard was shocked, sources said. He said it was discouraging to hear he couldn't return, but added that he didn't want to be somewhere he wasn't wanted, and he ended the meeting.
Lillard was still hopeful a deal with the Heat was within reach. However, he had to face the realization that he might not be moved.
So on Sept. 11, he started showing up at the Trail Blazers' practice facility to work out. He went in for eight days. He said Cronin did not address him once.
"I went into the facility because I was still on the roster and usually that time of the year is when team activities start to pick up as a group. I wasn't confident I would be moved so I showed up to be in the mix," Lillard told B/R.

"I didn't go there to cause any problems," Lillard continued. "That's not my character. If they felt that way, it wasn't my intent. I was just trying to get acclimated and everyone was happy to see me. Every single person except Joe. He never spoke to me. And when I noticed that, I made up in my mind that I'm not going out my way to speak to him."

 

[thunderc]

It’s good for the league that a guy with that many years left on his contract wasn’t able to just dictate no matter what. The Heat are collateral damage unfortunately.

 

[DJ Fieri]

Anybody with half a brain knew this.

Not exactly breaking news.

 

[bksballer89]

Anybody with half a brain knew this.

Not exactly breaking news.

You can respond to their twitter. Ham didn't announce that Lebron and AD will be starting so for him to announce this means some thought it might be a PG battle in camp between Vincent and Russell

 

[The Q]

1) The Heat say they never had a legitimate opportunity to negotiate. Throughout the process, they felt Portland allowed emotions to get in the way of business. Lillard's camp believed it had become personal.Miami believes it could have included a third team and netted the Trail Blazers up to three first-round picks with the inclusion of Tyler Herro.

Frustrated with the lack of suitable offers, sources say the Trail Blazers ceased all communication with Lillard and Goodwin in early September.

Portland's rationale for keeping them in the dark was to prevent Goodwin from getting involved in potential deals behind the scenes.
For approximately three weeks, calls and texts to the Trail Blazers from Lillard and Goodwin went unanswered.

2) In late August, Goodwin suggested to Cronin that he meet with Lillard to mend the relationship in case his client were to return to the team. Cronin agreed, and they met at Lillard's Portland-area mansion on Sept. 5. It was the first time the two had spoken in quite some time.

With a little less than a month away from training camp opening, the two sat in the entertainment center of Lillard's home and the meeting lasted about an hour.

Lillard expressed his disappointment with how his situation had been handled, citing his steadfast commitment to the organization over the years. He questioned why there was no dialogue with Miami and expressed how it would be disheartening to be sent somewhere against his wishes.

According to sources, Portland had asked Lillard to sit out the final 10 games of the 2022-23 regular season to help the franchise improve its lottery odds. He was told the higher the draft pick, the better chance they had at using the pick to facilitate a trade for a proven veteran player. He reluctantly acquiesced to being shut down, citing a "calf injury."

In the Sept. 5 meeting, Cronin conveyed that if he was forced to do a deal with Miami, he had every intention of going after every attractable asset. Lillard knew then he was unlikely to end up in Miami.

If herro had the trade value the heat thought he did, Dame would be a Heat right now.

 

[thunderc]

If herro had the trade value the heat thought he did, Dame would be a Heat right now.

Perhaps, I personally think there was pressure not to just give in, as there should have been.

 

[bksballer89]

If herro had the trade value the heat thought he did, Dame would be a Heat right now.

I did not include the part where they refused to communicate with miami since summer league so even if miami had a 3rd team for herro then portland would have never known. He wasn't going to give dame his wishes so the heat trade was never going to happen unless bam or jimmy was included...that much is clear after reading the article

Herro was never going to Portland

 

[bksballer89]

Perhaps, I personally think there was pressure not to just give in, as there should have been.

Yeah loyalty means nothing in this league. More players should be kyrie irving

 

[The Q]

It did not include the part where they refused to communicate with miami since summer league so even miami had a 3rd team for herro then portland would have never known. He wasn't going to give dame his wishes so the heat trade was never going to happen unless bam or jimmy was included...that much is clear after reading the article

Miami had salary matching, plus picks & contracts for herro, and Jovic and Jacquez.

They barely offered any of it.

They thought Port would cave

Hollinger on the athletic mentioned it's bad form for Portland to shop herro before they acquired him so that is Miami's job to do so.

they picked a dude they picked up off the street over Dame as well. Meanwhile MIL traded one of their best players to make it happen.

 

[bksballer89]

Miami had salary matching, plus picks & contracts for herro, and Jovic and Jacquez.

They barely offered any of it.

They thought Port would cave

Hollinger on the athletic mentioned it's bad form for Portland to shop herro before they acquired him so that is Miami's job to do so.

they picked a dude they picked up off the street over Dame as well. Meanwhile MIL traded one of their best players to make it happen.

Easier to trade one of your best when they play the same position as the guy you want. Had Jrue played another position then dame probably not in Milwaukee either

 

[thunderc]

Yeah loyalty means nothing in this league. More players should be kyrie irving

Oh bullshit, he was “loyal” as long as it meant more money. There is no bad guy here, it’s business. Things had swung way too far one way, if you don’t want to play somewhere don’t sign the contract. It’s that simple.

 

[bksballer89]

Oh bullshit, he was “loyal” as long as it meant more money. There is no bad guy here, it’s business. Things had swung way too far one way, if you don’t want to play somewhere don’t sign the contract. It’s that simple.

He was ready to comeback and they said fuck you. Way to treat the best player in team history

 

[bksballer89]

 

[Mecca of the “B” Team]

Yeah loyalty means nothing in this league. More players should be kyrie irving

Loyalty?


Lmfao

I don't have a shred of sympathy for Lillard.

He and his agent tried to fuck the Blazers out of a maximum return.

After he couldn't get to Miamj, he tried to rescind the request and they rightfully told him to go fuck himself.

Damian Lillard wanted to rescind trade request but Joe Cronin declined

Lillard then said if a deal couldn’t be worked out with the Heat, he would prefer to rescind his trade request and return to the Trail Blazers. Cronin’s response to the seven-time All-S…

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