2023 offseason thread

[bksballer89]

 

[bksballer89]

 

[Mebert]

KAT has actually claimed that the Wolves winning the play in game was more impressive than the Nuggets winning the championship. This guy is next level delusional, every day he proves Butler correct about him, but still thinks he is not the issue. This on top of him claiming that he could retire now and people would be talking about how he changed the game.

This on top of him implying that Nuggets knowing the wolves plays was some kind of magic, not serious prep with a good coach and a smart team. I can see why he never bothered to learn to protect the rim, he is probably convinced he is Mark Eaton at the rim.

 

[trojanfan12]

Yeah, it's time for him to shit or get off the pot.

He talks about wanting to win, but continues to stay with a team that has never fully committed to putting a contending roster around him.

Being loyal to a team is great and noble in theory, but if the team isn't showing that same loyalty it's on the player to decide if loyalty is more important than winning. If it is, great, there's no shame in being Reggie Miller. But if that's the decision he's made, don't cry when you don't win.

At this point, it's as much his fault as it is the Blazers.

 

[trojanfan12]

KAT has actually claimed that the Wolves winning the play in game was more impressive than the Nuggets winning the championship. This guy is next level delusional, every day he proves Butler correct about him, but still thinks he is not the issue. This on top of him claiming that he could retire now and people would be talking about how he changed the game.

This on top of him implying that Nuggets knowing the wolves plays was some kind of magic, not serious prep with a good coach and a smart team. I can see why he never bothered to learn to protect the rim, he is probably convinced he is Mark Eaton at the rim.

He seems like a guy who has never been told the truth about himself and the team has enabled that. Jimmy tried to tell him the truth about himself and even showed him when he beat the other starters in a scrimmage with end of the bench guys.

But it was Jimmy who was the "problem" and got moved.

 

[thunderc]

Is that their choice or his at this point? At 29, it sounds like he isn't pushing to come to the NBA?

He is in the OKC right now having discussions. I expect the Thunder to trade him but we will see.

 

[Mebert]

He seems like a guy who has never been told the truth about himself and the team has enabled that. Jimmy tried to tell him the truth about himself and even showed him when he beat the other starters in a scrimmage with end of the bench guys.

But it was Jimmy who was the "problem" and got moved.

Need KAT gone before Edwards is ruined by proxy

 

[shopson67]

If the size of the market is the problem...move the team.

As for tanking and gutting a team, that shouldn't even be something that the league should be addressing unless it turns into a situation like we saw with the Clippers under Sterling.

Teams like the Sixers with their "Process" or OKC who has used tanking to put together what looks to be an exciting, fun young team should not be punished because in both cases there was a clear plan to get better.

Also, if it's about protecting smaller market teams, why is the CBA set up so that OKC will be forced to let some of the talent they drafted and developed go because they are coming off of their rookie deals?

It seems like the league is set up for "poorer" teams to draft and develop players only to have "richer" teams poach that talent when the time comes for them to get their "bag".

What are the odds that OKC keeps all of these players and they all earn max contracts? When are you projecting them to exceed $179M? Besides, their leading salary is not homegrown (SGA).

 

[shopson67]

He is in the OKC right now having discussions. I expect the Thunder to trade him but we will see.

Interesting, just surprised that he's finally considering coming over at 29.

 

[shopson67]

People need to get out of Dame's business. If he wants to stay, that's his decision.

 

[shopson67]

Yeah, it's time for him to shit or get off the pot.

He talks about wanting to win, but continues to stay with a team that has never fully committed to putting a contending roster around him.

Being loyal to a team is great and noble in theory, but if the team isn't showing that same loyalty it's on the player to decide if loyalty is more important than winning. If it is, great, there's no shame in being Reggie Miller. But if that's the decision he's made, don't cry when you don't win.

At this point, it's as much his fault as it is the Blazers.

It's not that the team isn't showing loyalty, they just aren't showing the facility to get the job done. They've made the wrong moves.

 

[fightinfunbags]

@bksballer89 what do the Blazers even have that would interest you? If they’re making this move it’s to have him play with Dame. Portland is fucking nuts.

 

[trojanfan12]

What are the odds that OKC keeps all of these players and they all earn max contracts? When are you projecting them to exceed $179M? Besides, their leading salary is not homegrown (SGA).

Based on what we've seen so far? Seems like a possibility. They've put together a roster like it before when they had KD, Westbrook, Harden and Iggy.

 

[bksballer89]

People need to get out of Dame's business. If he wants to stay, that's his decision.

Thats fine...point is we dont want to hear anything about him leaving again if thats the case. He made pointed comments after the season that indicated he did not want to go the rebuilding route at his age.

 

[shopson67]

Based on what we've seen so far? Seems like a possibility. They've put together a roster like it before when they had KD, Westbrook, Harden and Iggy.

Who do you see currently that is a max player on that roster other than SGA?

 

[trojanfan12]

It's not that the team isn't showing loyalty, they just aren't showing the facility to get the job done. They've made the wrong moves.

From what I recall, they've never really taken the "big swing". They've never really gone after another superstar or 2 to pair with him. Some of that is on Dame because he's never really demanded it...but mostly it's on the team for not looking at what they had with him and doing everything in their power to put a contending roster around him.

The Lakers have rightfully been roasted for bringing in Westbrook. But, we can at least say that, as misguided as it was, it was a "big swing".

 

[shopson67]

Thats fine...point is we dont want to hear anything about him leaving again if thats the case. He made pointed comments after the season that indicated he did not want to go the rebuilding route at his age.

Has he said ANYTHING about leaving other than giving a few teams when someone directly asked him if any teams interested him?

 

[bksballer89]

@bksballer89 what do the Blazers even have that would interest you? If they’re making this move it’s to have him play with Dame. Portland is fucking nuts.

Yeahh lol i think any big trade miami make is to have bam & jimmy play with any big name player they acquire

 

[WiggyRuss]

 

[WiggyRuss]

pretty hilarious troll.