2022 NBA Offseason thread

[DJ Fieri]

Just unloading RW's contract will help our outside shooting.

Addition by subtraction.....LOL.

 

[DJ Fieri]

IMO, THT was never going to realize any potential he may have with Lebron in LA. He is not a great fit with Lebron on the floor. IMO, for impact upon this season, Stanley Johnson would've been as valuable for LA as THT. Bev basically moves Johnson's defense to guard, where it is needed more. Bev's 3 pt shooting was down with the Wolves last year, but was approx 40% during his time with the Clips and Rockets. Floor spacing, ball handling, and defense all great fits with Lebron. Bev doesn't have the athleticism of THT, but otherwise he's the better fit now of the three.

As you noted, the additional flexibility next season could be huge too. That might give the Lakers some pause with the Pacers deal, which has Hield due $19M in 23/24 and an extension for Turner assumed ultimately if acquired. That potential cap savings for next season could be gone in a flash.

Pretty sure Turner would walk in the summer....the Lakers would have bigger fish to fry so to speak.

 

[DJ Fieri]

I'm not sold on Oubre with better shooting options potentially available.

What free agents are available that would be better than Oubre?

You're forgetting we would also be getting the guy we wanted last summer in Hield....he's the designated gunner if we acquired him

 

[bksballer89]

 

[Mecca of the “B” Team]

If you have to give a team 2 firsts to eat Randle's deal the Knicks interest in a Westbrook trade makes total sense.

Knicks not willing to attach first-rounders to trade Julius Randle

The four remaining seasons on Julius Randle’s deal have made teams, even ones who believe last season wasn’t representative of who he is, hesitant about acquiring him. The Knicks, meanwhile, haven’…

hoopshype.com

 

[msgkings322]

Couldn't stand the S.O.B. personally. But fuggit, he's on our squad now...

Your squad is filling up with guys you can't stand

 

[DJ Fieri]

That Marques Johnson's son?

 

[Retroram52]

It makes the Lakers better because Pat Bev fits with Lebron far better than Westbrook. Pat Bev plays defense, Westbrook doesn't. Pat Bev can hit the 3, Westbrook can't. Pat Bev doesn't need the ball in his hands a lot to be effective, Westbrook does.

It doesn't make them contenders, but it does make them better.

Get the Hield/Turner trade done...then they can be looked at as contenders if they stay healthy.

Spot on TJF12. The Hield/Turner trade is next along with Westbrook leaving!

 

[Black Adam]

Your squad is filling up with guys you can't stand

It's officially ugly lol...

 

[Mecca of the “B” Team]

Yo, on Twitter they are calling the backcourt duo of Pat Bev and Russ...


Trick y'all and brick y'all

The internet is a cold ass place...lol

 

[Retroram52]

The Lakers are now willing to part with both 1st rounders in the right deal.....this was back on the 17th.

Woj: Lakers Willing To Trade Two First-Round Picks

They would reportedly send both to Brooklyn in a Kyrie Irving deal, but the Nets aren't interested.

www.hoopsrumors.com

All that is left is whether the Lakers send both Number ones to Indiana or split them-up if the Bees get involved.

 

[True Lakers Fan]

It makes the Lakers better because Pat Bev fits with Lebron far better than Westbrook. Pat Bev plays defense, Westbrook doesn't. Pat Bev can hit the 3, Westbrook can't. Pat Bev doesn't need the ball in his hands a lot to be effective, Westbrook does.

It doesn't make them contenders, but it does make them better.

Get the Hield/Turner trade done...then they can be looked at as contenders if they stay healthy.

To say he is a better fit than Westbrook isn't saying much -An over the hill Shaq Oneal would be a better fit - but I do agree being that while he is an old man and going to be injury prone(They always are by the time we get them), I do think he will play better defense.

That wasn't the reason they Lakers made this move though - Tucker had a player option for next year - and Beverly doesn't - The Lakers will now have something like 34 million under the cap to sign any free agent they want. That is what that trade was about.

 

[True Lakers Fan]

THT isn’t going to improve on this roster that is championship or bust. There was a reason we didn’t see true progression out of Ball, Ingram, etc. until after they left. THT is still young but he doesn’t fit the roster. He was better off on another team anyway. Beverly right is better at every almost aspect than THT and THT is a very low % shooter right now. No place for him on the current roster

The bigger picture here, however is that the Lakers now will have 34 million under the salary cap next year to sign a free agent

 

[DJ Fieri]

To say he is a better fit than Westbrook isn't saying much -An over the hill Shaq Oneal would be a better fit - but I do agree being that while he is an old man and going to be injury prone(They always are by the time we get them), I do think he will play better defense.

That wasn't the reason they Lakers made this move though - Tucker had a player option for next year - and Beverly doesn't - The Lakers will now have something like 34 million under the cap to sign any free agent they want. That is what that trade was about.

WTF?

Shaq is 50 and not exactly known for his outside shooting.

 

[True Lakers Fan]

IMO, THT was never going to realize any potential he may have with Lebron in LA. He is not a great fit with Lebron on the floor. IMO, for impact upon this season, Stanley Johnson would've been as valuable for LA as THT. Bev basically moves Johnson's defense to guard, where it is needed more. Bev's 3 pt shooting was down with the Wolves last year, but was approx 40% during his time with the Clips and Rockets. Floor spacing, ball handling, and defense all great fits with Lebron. Bev doesn't have the athleticism of THT, but otherwise he's the better fit now of the three.

As you noted, the additional flexibility next season could be huge too. That might give the Lakers some pause with the Pacers deal, which has Hield due $19M in 23/24 and an extension for Turner assumed ultimately if acquired. That potential cap savings for next season could be gone in a flash.

That may be, but then we saw Ingram improve - as I expected, however, the Lakers were dumping THT to get rid of that player option and now have 34 million under the cap next year to run at a third player

 

[DJ Fieri]

Yo, on Twitter they are calling the backcourt duo of Pat Bev and Russ...


Trick y'all and brick y'all

The internet is a cold ass place...lol

That is pretty funny.....

 

[trojanfan12]

To say he is a better fit than Westbrook isn't saying much -An over the hill Shaq Oneal would be a better fit - but I do agree being that while he is an old man and going to be injury prone(They always are by the time we get them), I do think he will play better defense.

That wasn't the reason they Lakers made this move though - Tucker had a player option for next year - and Beverly doesn't - The Lakers will now have something like 34 million under the cap to sign any free agent they want. That is what that trade was about.

Yes and no. I'm sure the cap for next off-season had something to do with it. But Pat Bev brings pretty much everything the Lakers lacked last season. So I think they would look to get him anyway. That he doesn't effect their cap next off-season is an added bonus.

Imo, getting Pat Bev means that it's imperative that they get something more done. You really don't want Pat Bev playing more than about 25 minutes per game Partly because of his age, but also that "dawg" and "irritant" that he is can have diminishing returns when the refs get tired of his act.

 

[DJ Fieri]

Pat Bev tweeted:

"Woke up a Laker!!! It's on!!!"

Dude is excited.

 

[True Lakers Fan]

Yes and no. I'm sure the cap for next off-season had something to do with it. But Pat Bev brings pretty much everything the Lakers lacked last season. So I think they would look to get him anyway. That he doesn't effect their cap next off-season is an added bonus.

Imo, getting Pat Bev means that it's imperative that they get something more done. You really don't want Pat Bev playing more than about 25 minutes per game Partly because of his age, but also that "dawg" and "irritant" that he is can have diminishing returns when the refs get tired of his act.

I like him as a player and yes, he is a better player than Tucker and a better fit - but I am concerned about his age - He is 34 and the Lakers need to develop some younger talent coming off the bench in my opinion

 

[DJ Fieri]

Yes and no. I'm sure the cap for next off-season had something to do with it. But Pat Bev brings pretty much everything the Lakers lacked last season. So I think they would look to get him anyway. That he doesn't effect their cap next off-season is an added bonus.

Imo, getting Pat Bev means that it's imperative that they get something more done. You really don't want Pat Bev playing more than about 25 minutes per game Partly because of his age, but also that "dawg" and "irritant" that he is can have diminishing returns when the refs get tired of his act.

The cap next season is set tentatively at 133 mill....could go up to like 138-140.

The Lakers only have AD, 'Bron, and Christie under contract. Damian Jones has a player option. Jones opts in and they at around 92 mill. Say they add Hield in the RW trade.....that puts us at around 111.