2022-2023 NBA Season Thread

[The Q]

Those posted numbers? Only if you're looking at ppg. Of course, we all know the other side of the coin (defense), lol.

Jokic leads the NBA in

Raptor
Win Shares
Win Shares per 40
Box Plus minus
VORP
WAR

In most of those cases it's not even close.

Not even a litlte bit.

Just in PER where he just edges out Embiid.

 

[thunderc]

Jokic leads the NBA in

Raptor
Win Shares
Win Shares per 40
Box Plus minus
VORP
WAR

In most of those cases it's not even close.

Not even a litlte bit.

Just in PER where he just edges out Embiid.

The eye test says Embiid every day of the week.

 

[The Q]

The eye test says Embiid every day of the week.

The eye test means little

 

[thunderc]

The eye test means little

I guess it does

 

[The Q]

I guess it does

it means people dumb af

 

[Shaqdaddy11]

Their recent play has just been building towards a quick exit. Maybe not in the play-in, but it certainly seems to be looming.

To me their play looks a little too inconsistent.

I never expected them to win against the Clippers, especially after a back to back.

But those games against Utah should have been blow-outs.

They also need to figure out their free throws and limit turnovers.

And for fuck sake, give the ball to AD in the paint more often. Neither Minnesota or potentially Memphis has anyone to stop him.

 

[thunderc]

it means people dumb af

They were 2 years ago that’s for sure

 

[Mecca of the “B” Team]

I mean, not really. Most Lakers fans on this board are more critical of them than other fans. If they lose tonight I am going to rip them a new one on this forum.

Some exceptions of course....

We are realist.

Hopeful.

But, not homerific to the point of losing credibility.

Their recent play has just been building towards a quick exit. Maybe not in the play-in, but it certainly seems to be looming.

I don’t think you can beat the Suns.

But, if AD plays like a Clydesdale, instead of my little pony, the other top seeds would get snuffed.

 

[Mecca of the “B” Team]

The eye test means little

Depends on whose voting.

 

[The Q]

Depends on whose voting.

It just proves narrative > reality

Jokic lapped the field this year

But because he won 2 in a row people aren’t gonna vote for him

 

[thunderc]

It just proves narrative > reality

Jokic lapped the field this year

But because he won 2 in a row people aren’t gonna vote for him

The fact that many think he got screwed out of at least one of those 2 is certainly a factor as well. Sorry, Jokic doesn’t belong in 3 in a row territory.

 

[shopson67]

But, if AD plays like a Clydesdale, instead of my little pony, the other top seeds would get snuffed.

 

[Mecca of the “B” Team]

It just proves narrative > reality

Jokic lapped the field this year

But because he won 2 in a row people aren’t gonna vote for him

I’m not using that as part of my narrative.

So, it isn’t a stretch for me to believe that some of the people voting simply believe Embiid deserves to win.

 

[shopson67]

The fact that many think he got screwed out of at least one of those 2 is certainly a factor as well. Sorry, Jokic doesn’t belong in 3 in a row territory.

That's such a false narrative. What happened last year should have no impact on this year. If he deserves it this year, he should get it.

Besides, what "many" think doesn't matter if they aren't voters.

That said, it's pretty safe that he won't. That vote sampling seems pretty clear.

 

[Mecca of the “B” Team]

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[Shaqdaddy11]

We are realist.

Hopeful.

But, not homerific to the point of losing credibility.

I don’t think you can beat the Suns.

But, if AD plays like a Clydesdale, instead of my little pony, the other top seeds would get snuffed.

Suns and Clippers are the only two teams where I am almost 100% sure the Lakers have no chance of beating. Everyone else in the West is fair game IMO

That and whoever comes out of the East.

If by some absolute miracle they represent the West in the Finals, they will get absolutely SLAUGHTERED by the winner of the East.

 

[The Q]

The fact that many think he got screwed out of at least one of those 2 is certainly a factor as well. Sorry, Jokic doesn’t belong in 3 in a row territory.

3 in a row doesn’t matter

It’s a season award

 

[The Q]

Jokic leads the NBA in

Raptor
Win Shares
Win Shares per 40
Box Plus minus
VORP
WAR

In most of those cases it's not even close.

Not even a litlte bit.

Just in PER where he just edges out Embiid.

@Mecca

The evidence is overwhelming

It’s the narrative

 

[Stakesarehigh]

@Mecca

The evidence is overwhelming

It’s the narrative

If he can push the Nuggets to a final the narrative shifts. And everyone can please stop acting like his lack of playoff success relative to other multiple time winners isn't a factor.

 

[Mecca of the “B” Team]

@Mecca

The evidence is overwhelming

It’s the narrative

Not for me.

I”m not a big analyctics Gal.

I keep it simple.

Embiid is the better scorer.

Embiid is the better defender.

Embiid’s team won more games.

I’m not anti-Jokic.

He’s a monster.

Joel is just a tad better, TO ME, this season.