2021 NBA regular season thread

[Wamu]

HOLY FUCK!

Vanessa Bryant is being sued...my her own mother. Sofia Lane is claiming she worked unpaid as a "longtime personal assistant and nanny". And that Kobe promise to take care of her for the rest of her life.

That's just wrong. WTF is wrong with her? It's not painful enough for Vanessa losing her husband & daughter now she has to deal with this nonsense?

 

[Shanemansj13]

So who would Houston want in a Miami trade?

Obviously, Herro is the centerpiece.

Herro, Iggy, Olynyk and a couple 1st’s but they want Robinson as well.

 

[trojanfan12]

Yeah he does have a point and the $40M/year is obviously the difference. If you are paying a guy that much you want to know you can build around him. You can build around Harden but a little more tricky.

Guys I personally would take over Harden that make $30-$40M/year

9 total - Steph, KD, Lebron, Kawhi, Kyrie, Lillard, Jokic, AD, Giannis

Guys I would take over Harden on long-term and age a factor:

6 total - Murray, Booker, Mitchell, Tatum, Bam, Towns

Guys that make $20M or less or on rookie contracts I would take over Harden...potential is a key here as well as contract...

5 total - Morant, Luka, Trae, Herro, Zion

Iffy...Ingram, J Brown, Zinger, LaVine

I mean there is 20 and 4 iffy’s. I’m sure I am missing some. He is around 25 but it’s close but he is still a top 10 player in this league...he is getting a little too much hate imo

Depends on what you mean by hate.

He's not getting hate as in, no one is saying he can't play or isn't one of the top players in the league. The hate is on the fact that he hasn't shown himself to be someone who's committed to winning titles or who can lead a team.

He's very much like what @tlance said about Kyrie...his skillset/style is that of someone who should be a #1, but mentally he's a #2.

Most of the hate I see is about his attitude, not his talent or ability.

 

[DJ]

Feel really dirty.....I want USC to beat Oregon tonight so OD shuts his pie-hole.

 

[DJ]

Depends on what you mean by hate.

He's not getting hate as in, no one is saying he can't play or isn't one of the top players in the league. The hate is on the fact that he hasn't shown himself to be someone who's committed to winning titles or who can lead a team.

He's very much like what @tlance said about Kyrie...his skillset/style is that of someone who should be a #1, but mentally he's a #2.

Most of the hate I see is about his attitude, not his talent or ability.

Yeah.....this.....

I think if Milwaukee wanted to trade for him.....he and Giannis would be a nice 1-2 punch. That would probably be the best spot for him, if there is a best spot for him.....not sure if that is even possible at this point....

 

[DJ]

So who would Houston want in a Miami trade?

Obviously, Herro is the centerpiece.

Herro, Iggy, Olynyk and a couple 1st’s but they want Robinson as well.

Harden is not even close to what Miami needs in their offensive scheme.

Total opposite matches. Not to mention that doesn't work financially.

 

[trojanfan12]

Feel really dirty.....I want USC to beat Oregon tonight so OD shuts his pie-hole.

 

[DJ]

OD has started his shtick at the other site and annoying to everybody.....just want him to shut the fuck up. It's more annoying that rooting for a hated rival.....if that makes any sense.

 

[tlance]

Yeah he does have a point and the $40M/year is obviously the difference. If you are paying a guy that much you want to know you can build around him. You can build around Harden but a little more tricky.

Guys I personally would take over Harden that make $30-$40M/year

9 total - Steph, KD, Lebron, Kawhi, Kyrie, Lillard, Jokic, AD, Giannis

Guys I would take over Harden on long-term and age a factor:

6 total - Murray, Booker, Mitchell, Tatum, Bam, Towns

Guys that make $20M or less or on rookie contracts I would take over Harden...potential is a key here as well as contract...

5 total - Morant, Luka, Trae, Herro, Zion

Iffy...Ingram, J Brown, Zinger, LaVine

I mean there is 20 and 4 iffy’s. I’m sure I am missing some. He is around 25 but it’s close but he is still a top 10 player in this league...he is getting a little too much hate imo

Taking Kyrie over Harden is insane to me

Kyrie is 3 years younger. But there is nothing he does on the court better than Harden.

And they are both crazy.

All those iffys you got in the list are hell no’s

You can build a good team around James Harden. He is an elite player.

You aren’t building an good team around Brandon Ingram and Zach LaVine.

And Tyler Herro should not be on that list. Cmon man. 1 of these things is not like the others.

 

[DJ]

Taking Kyrie over Harden is insane to me

Kyrie is 3 years younger. But there is nothing he does on the court better than Harden.

And they are both crazy.

All those iffys you got in the list are hell no’s

You can build a good team around James Harden. He is an elite player.

You aren’t building an good team around Brandon Ingram and Zach LaVine.

And Tyler Herro should not be on that list. Cmon man. 1 of these things is not like the others.

Yeah, Harden is a way better scorer than IRving.

And BI and LaVine are 3rd options at best on a title contender.

 

[The Q]

Yeah he does have a point and the $40M/year is obviously the difference. If you are paying a guy that much you want to know you can build around him. You can build around Harden but a little more tricky.

Guys I personally would take over Harden that make $30-$40M/year

9 total - Steph, KD, Lebron, Kawhi, Kyrie, Lillard, Jokic, AD, Giannis

Guys I would take over Harden on long-term and age a factor:

6 total - Murray, Booker, Mitchell, Tatum, Bam, Towns

Guys that make $20M or less or on rookie contracts I would take over Harden...potential is a key here as well as contract...

5 total - Morant, Luka, Trae, Herro, Zion

Iffy...Ingram, J Brown, Zinger, LaVine

I mean there is 20 and 4 iffy’s. I’m sure I am missing some. He is around 25 but it’s close but he is still a top 10 player in this league...he is getting a little too much hate imo

definitely not Dame or Kyrie.
No to any of the iffy’s

no to tre or hero and frankly no to morant

I wouldn’t take most of booker Tatum Murray etc for 2020.

We are talking winning in 2020. That’s it

that’s the question of who is the better player

 

[tlance]

definitely not Dame or Kyrie.
No to any of the iffy’s

no to tre or hero and frankly no to morant

I wouldn’t take most of booker Tatum Murray etc for 2020.

We are talking winning in 2020. That’s it

that’s the question of who is the better player

I would take Tatum.

Not Murray, probably not Booker.

But if people think Harden gets past the top 15 in an NBA redraft, they are fooling themselves.

 

[CitySushi]

Warriors championship confirmed.

 

[DJ]

I would take Tatum.

Not Murray, probably not Booker.

But if people think Harden gets past the top 15 in an NBA redraft, they are fooling themselves.

Yep, still a very talented player.....

 

[DJ]

Warriors championship confirmed.

Wow.

Oubre looks like he could be a really solid fill in for Klay.....

 

[The Q]

I would take Tatum.

Not Murray, probably not Booker.

But if people think Harden gets past the top 15 in an NBA redraft, they are fooling themselves.

I’ll listen on Tatum.

I think he’s a little overrated right now, but he’s also young enough to make the jump

 

[CitySushi]

Wow.

Oubre looks like he could be a really solid fill in for Klay.....

I love Oubre's game so far with the Warriors. He looks like he's going to be an All NBA Defense candidate this year. He's a great fit so far with this team. He's going to be really streaky shooting the ball though I can already tell.

 

[tlance]

Warriors championship confirmed.

People keep saying the Warriors are a 1st round playoff exit at best.

I think they could be right there with teams like the Nuggets and even Clippers if Wiseman pans out and Draymond plays well.

Could still lose in the 1st round, but also could win a series or 2 depending on matchups.

 

[DJ]

I love Oubre's game so far with the Warriors. He looks like he's going to be an All NBA Defense candidate this year. He's a great fit so far with this team. He's going to be really streaky shooting the ball though I can already tell.

You can't replace Klay but if Oubre can give you something similar on defense and maybe 35% that would help teams not just double Steph.....they'd have to respect Oubre....

I can see them being a difficult 6 seed to face....

 

[CitySushi]

People keep saying the Warriors are a 1st round playoff exit at best.

I think they could be right there with teams like the Nuggets and even Clippers if Wiseman pans out and Draymond plays well.

Could still lose in the 1st round, but also could win a series or 2 depending on matchups.

Yeah problem with this season is that there are a lot of "ifs" that need to go right.

IF - Steph stays healthy
IF - Draymond gets back into his old all star self
IF - Wiseman develops to be able to contribute some this year
IF - Wiggins buys in and also contributes on defense

I totally understand the skepticism regarding the Warriors.