2021 NBA Offseason

[trojanfan12]

JR Smith enrolled at North Carolina AT&T......petitioning the NCAA so he can play on the golf team,

lol

Look at JR tryna get a golf scholly.

 

[Shanemansj13]

 

[DJ Fieri]

lol

Look at JR tryna get a golf scholly.

Don't think he is worried about that. He is worth 35 million.

He is apparently a pretty good golfer.

 

[DJ Fieri]

He and Schroder really fucked up.

 

[bksballer89]

Sometimes you bet on yourself and you lose

 

[thunderc]

Don't think he is worried about that. He is worth 35 million.

He is apparently a pretty good golfer.

Yea he is supposedly like a 5 handicap. He will get approved to play, it’s a formality since he never enrolled in college.

 

[DJ Fieri]

Yea he is supposedly like a 5 handicap. He will get approved to play, it’s a formality since he never enrolled in college.

He won't graduate.....LOL.

 

[Shanemansj13]

Sometimes you bet on yourself and you lose

*twice lol

 

[bksballer89]

*twice lol

The Pacers one I totally understand but the Houston one? I get you don't want to stay in Houston but with his recent injury history, that is a deal you need to take

 

[Shaqdaddy11]

The Pacers one I totally understand but the Houston one? I get you don't want to stay in Houston but with his recent injury history, that is a deal you need to take

Another example how it’s a bad deal for the player but great deal for the team.

How is his injury? Is he rumored to be out for a while?

 

[bksballer89]

Another example how it’s a bad deal for the player but great deal for the team.

How is his injury? Is he rumored to be out for a while?

First two months. Sounding like January right now

 

[Shaqdaddy11]

First two months. Sounding like January right now

Still worth a shot for the min.

 

[bksballer89]

Still worth a shot for the min.

Without a doubt. Get him hopefully for 45-50 games and the playoffs would be great

 

[WiggyRuss]

Right.

So it was a much different process.

Like I have said all along.

I would definitely agree the Cavs started with less- especially considering Love basically becoming useless because of injury.

 

[WiggyRuss]

what?

you started with a top 10 pick

you bungled the Russ smith contract

but you had a better head start than most rebuilding teams who just made the finals

who is Russ Smith?

and they did start with the 8th pick that became Sexton- but people look at that as the "start"- which is really not the case.

plus trading Nance would what? get you a late first rounder maybe?

seems like one of the reasons why Philadelphia still has issues could be that they didnt have any kind of vets to stabilize the situation. Jahlil Okafor, Nerleans Noel, Dario Saric- where all very highly rated prospects and all of them failed.

Now you see guys like Thybulle and Maxey actually come along nicely- the difference is likely having some kind of framework and vets to teach them instead of throwing them to the wolves.

One of the reasons i am glad the Cavs kept Allen is that it will not throw Mobley to the wolves. Now Mobley can play the 4 or 5, wont get the crap beaten out of him by bigger players on a nightly basis, and can develop the right way. Its very possible that guys like Saric, Okafor, Noel could have had very different careers if they werent expected to be extremely important parts to an NBA team right off the bat.

I am glad the Cavs have vets like Rubio and Nance who can take control when things get shaky, can give the kids some confidence and guidance. I think its better for them and their development.

 

[WiggyRuss]

No, not at all.

Had they landed a healthy Embiid, they would have started trying to win at least a year or 2 earlier.

Burn it took 2 years to figure out what they actually had there, so they decided to keep punting.

had Embiid been healthy they wouldnt have landed him.

 

[WiggyRuss]

The Cavs may very well have landed their superstar. But they got him 4th and that is a bit fortunate that they didn’t win too many games to hit the 3rd pick.

uhhhh what?

the Cavs had the 3rd pick........

 

[Shanemansj13]

who is Russ Smith?

and they did start with the 8th pick that became Sexton- but people look at that as the "start"- which is really not the case.

plus trading Nance would what? get you a late first rounder maybe?

seems like one of the reasons why Philadelphia still has issues could be that they didnt have any kind of vets to stabilize the situation. Jahlil Okafor, Nerleans Noel, Dario Saric- where all very highly rated prospects and all of them failed.

Now you see guys like Thybulle and Maxey actually come along nicely- the difference is likely having some kind of framework and vets to teach them instead of throwing them to the wolves.

One of the reasons i am glad the Cavs kept Allen is that it will not throw Mobley to the wolves. Now Mobley can play the 4 or 5, wont get the crap beaten out of him by bigger players on a nightly basis, and can develop the right way. Its very possible that guys like Saric, Okafor, Noel could have had very different careers if they werent expected to be extremely important parts to an NBA team right off the bat.

I am glad the Cavs have vets like Rubio and Nance who can take control when things get shaky, can give the kids some confidence and guidance. I think its better for them and their development.

I mean some are acting like they lucked into top picks year after year. If you look at the drafts the last 4 years, they were very top heavy the majority of the time and before this year the Cavs didn't have one top 3 pick.

Sexton #8
Garland #5
Okoro #5

If they land a top 3 pick in that 2018 draft they might have Trae or Luka. So the Cavs have been trying their best to make the best out of their picks and that's all they can do when don't pick top 3 every year. Now in the past is a different story they had their fair share of luck so this evens itself out, some may say.

 

[WiggyRuss]

Nobody said they did.

What they did was continued the tank until they had a legit franchise superstar (they thought they had 2) to build around.

The Cavs may very well have landed their superstar. But they got him 4th and that is a bit fortunate that they didn’t win too many games to hit the 3rd pick.

1st-no team can tank for 5-6 years and expect to have a legitimate fan base and any kind of culture.

2nd- I really think that you are not realizing your own stupidity----

I dont know how many times I have to repeat- that when the Sixers were tanking the lotto odds were drastically different.

for example- the lotto odds used to be for the first pick:

Worst record- 25%- 100% could pick no worse than 3rd under any circumstance
2nd worst- 19.9% - 100% chance the pick could be no worse than 4th
3rd worst- 13.8% - 100% chance the pick could be no worse than 5th
4th worst- 13.7%
5th worst- 7.6%
6th worst- 7.5%

now they are:
worst record- 14% at first pick----- only 40% chance of picking in the top 3 ----47.9% chance of picking 5th
2nd worst record- 14% ------- only 40% chance of picking in the top 3 -47.8 chance of picking 5th or 6th
3rd worst record 14% ------ only 40% chance of being in the top 3------- 47.8% chance of picking 5th 6th or 7th
4th worst record- 12.% ----- 37% chance of picking in the top 3-------51.8 % chance of picking 5th, 6th, 7th, or 8th
5th worst record- 10.5% etc.
6th worst record- 9.0%

i hope this is eye opening.

 

[WiggyRuss]

I mean some are acting like they lucked into top picks year after year. If you look at the drafts the last 4 years, they were very top heavy the majority of the time and before this year the Cavs didn't have one top 3 pick.

Sexton #8
Garland #5
Okoro #5

If they land a top 3 pick in that 2018 draft they might have Trae or Luka. So the Cavs have been trying their best to make the best out of their picks and that's all they can do when don't pick top 3 every year. Now in the past is a different story they had their fair share of luck so this evens itself out, some may say.

not only that- but all 3 guys were- if not THE pick you would take with retrospect- at least very very close--- thats pretty unheard of. Considering their spots they have done a pretty good job.