2021-2022 Mariners offseason/free agency thread

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[wazzu31]

I dont know if I would be in minority here, but I would love a Carlos Correa signing.

Jerry essentially crossed him off the list the day after the season ended when he said JP is the SS

 

[wazzu31]

Yeah I'm not really sure on the Kyle Lewis thing but perhaps you might be right regarding Lewis. I think he has had 2 or 3 knee related issues while he's been in the organization and as a high caliber athlete, perhaps he's frustrated and thinking that the medical staff is the problem as it's not common to have that many significant knee injuries. He may be dealing with it from the perspective that "it's not me, it's the medical staff," which I suppose would be the way many would cope with the situation. Who knows?

That's a fair counter offer with Story and I know I'm beating a dead horse, but I have to assume that MLB front offices have the same reservations that I do, which is why he hadn't signed before the stoppage. I think in the end, Story will probably settle for a deal similar to what you proposed.

I still think our best route to solving our 3B/LF problem is Kris Bryant. Doesn't cost us prospects and he can play 3rd, 1st and LF competently. Dipoto emphasized versatility and Bryant has that. Kris Bryant is the one guy I would overpay for in a second and I feel if we sign him and make a few other moves, the offseason would be a success.

No idea with Lewis. I haven’t ever had any issues with surgeries. As you said he has had multiple surgeries and they all have been under the Mariners umbrella. Or maybe he thinks they rushed him back? Who knows, it is the only thing I could think of if they are saying there isn’t a timetable. Every surgery I’ve had or have heard of they’ve given me a timetable within a month at the longest and then it becomes flexible with a set backs or whatever. Or maybe it is on the Mariners side on thinking Kyle isn’t recovering as quick as they want and it is a shot across the bow for him. No idea, it just very strange.

Bryant is the number 1 guy and has been my number 1 guy. It is just if he is going to price himself out of Jerry’s range….which there shouldn’t be. I think Story would be a plan B but the Frazier move kind of seems like Jerry is on plan B at least with 2B so probably with 3B too. I know I am redundant but I really really want them to figure out 3B so there is as least the option of dangling Marte for a big trade. With how “stacked” the farm system is it would be nice if they break camp and they don’t have any untouchables in the system assuming Julio breaks camp.

 

[Tapey]

Jerry essentially crossed him off the list the day after the season ended when he said JP is the SS

Correa has said he is open to playing 3rd.

 

[ulmax]

frazier is the best..#3 hitter...he could find..ya need a LHH..in the top of the order....no matter were he plays..or DH...
he is a good 2B as well.....mariners have enough...guys..but any of those guys..will make them even better...

conforto to replace seagers..36 HRS..and outfield....that alone..could help at this point...

yeah..bryant
or story...will help them...i like guys up the center..who are really good....and mainers could use a speedy guy..to hit #2..story is almost ..
perfect...
i will take any of those guys...cuz....they will put them over the top...

 

[ulmax]

but.. frazier could do it as well..as far as 2b...it

would nice to make the mariners weakness..a strength..though..

 

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mlb trade rumars....
the offseason to the likes of Kris Bryant, Seiya Suzuki, Trevor Story and the since-signed Javier Báez (Tigers) and Marcus Semien (Rangers). Though Seattle has already acquired left-handed-hitting infielder/outfielder Adam Frazier in a deal with the Padres, president of baseball operations Jerry Dipoto figures to come out of the lockout intent on further deepening his lineup.

MLB Network’s Jon Heyman indicated recently on his Big Time Baseball podcast that Seattle indeed made an offer to Story prior to the

lockout — presumably with the idea that Story would move off of shortstop in deference to incumbent J.P. Crawford. Dipoto plainly stated earlier in the winter that the organization’s plan was to keep Crawford at that position, and reports since that time suggested the team’s interest in Story would likely be predicated on a move to second base.

my 2 cents....some say story arm is not what it once..was...ok no prob..2B...and ss..are waiting..on the mariners...yes...he would be back up ss guy..with moore backing him up....if they dont trade him..

but those guys are obiuos..jerrys fav guys as well...cuz they on the list....

 

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but some guys...would rather...play..somewhere..else...who can blame those..guys...but the mariners need someone to want to be on there team....lololol

if i was a ballplayer..i would like here...
k.C.
san diego.....has a sea breeze..its hot but nice
bay area..either team..
i dont really like L.A....so...to much smogg...yuk
and really hot heat bothers me ..so...
or i would prob like texas..
i dont like really big citys....like new york and chicogo..but i am a bit of a.... yankees fan...lololol..more of a follower...lolo

but lets say ballplayers have preferances..as well

 

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aline up of

crawford...
story
frazier..Dh
haniger....
france..
conforto...LF/dh
lewis......CF
this is an all star line up so far...
murphy
toro.....toro will..be better..than people think...he will be as good as he was when...he first got here...patience....skywalker...

you guys know the catchers...we will see..................

 

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fansided..suggested..

MARINERS GET
UT ZACK MCKINSTRY

DODGERS GET
RHP ERIK SWANSON

this would be interesting

this also is interesting..

MARINERS GET
OF STEVEN DUGGAR

GIANTS GET
RHP YOHAN RAMIREZ

mariners may do a trade like one of these.....just depends..but they will need all there bull pen guys this year..

 

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by Christopher O'Day @MarinersLifer
There isn’t a lot going on in baseball right now. We can throw out proposals, talk about the lockout, and dream about baseball coming back. There’s also one other thing that is a bit more tangible and realistic than the rest. Talking about the upcoming class of new major leaguers in the 2022 draft, and examining related mock drafts whenever they happen. Prospects Live just came out with their 1.0 Mock draft, and they have the Mariners selecting Jackson Ferris with the 21st pick.

Mariners – 1/21 – Jackson Ferris, LHP, IMG Academy​

For quite a while, the Mariners took college players and had a nice run of college arms. They bucked the trend last year when they took the incredibly athletic Harry Ford in the first round with the 12th pick overall, a high schooler who can play catcher, second, or even outfield.

So, what does Jackson Ferris bring? It sounds like he has greatly increased his fastball velocity from 2020 to 2021. In 2020, he was sitting high 80s, and would occasionally touch into the low 90s. After improving his base and core strength, he now sits in the low 90s and can tough 96. That’s a massive jump, and you have to imagine that there is still some room for him to improve once he gets into a major league system.
A lanky lefty, he currently sits around 6’4″ and 190 lbs. You’d think he would be a bit wild (as is common with hard-throwing and lanky players looking to generate extra velocity), but he is actually pretty accurate with a very repeatable delivery. It’s his secondary and tertiary pitches that he needs to work on, as the consistency can be a bit tough.
It is something that he has improved on, as he had a big tell on his curve in 2020, which seems to be something he has been working on and eliminating through 2021 and into 2022. The curve is a plus pitch, with a hard late break that can be difficult to pick up. He throws a change as well, but it needs work.
Just from reading about him, I’m sure you can get a picture in your head of what he is like. He’s got a loose delivery, and it seems fairly smooth without over-exuding effort. The delivery actually looks like a mix of Tim Lincecum and Madison Bumgarner, according to a 2020 article from Prospects Live.

Much like Lincicum, Ferris has an elite extension, which comes from the energy created in the high leg kick, and a stellar, albeit non explosive drive (this creates the desired low vaa fastball). As he enters his drive, he stays extremely closed off (front side), which visually looks like a fusion of Lincicum and a Bumgarner’s deliveries (slow collected stride of Mad Bum, kick/gather/extension Lincicum)

im all..about joe doyle...and prospects live....and even a LHP....but before....we go with...any one guy....

lets make a mariners...draft srtategy...so we know...who they need.....then..we can go with who...they want..

and..who..they need and want..could run into one in the same.......or 2 or 3 of the same......

to do that...deturmine..the mariners need....you need to know who they have right now...

i will do this...it takes...a while..an hour or 2...and put it on sports SportsHoopla..but i may have already...on ulmax..mariners draft..2022

ihave not posted there in a while....but i still have time...

keep up with joe doyle....he is on it..

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an exercise.....
list...top pitchers..for draft...by round..the 10 to 20 of them for each round...this could take all spiring...and close to the draft
short stops.....
center fielders......
less of 2b...
RF/1B...mariners..are on these guys..the better they are...they want 2 position guys...just in case..
3B/1B/of..

well..do however you like..but i think you get the point...............

LF...??...yeah i know..ya like..2draft..CF..then..they become...Lf ers...
same with ss...to..2B...2B to 3b...and so on

 

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yeah ya take hard looks...at short stops..and centerfield guys most..

.yeah...pitchers are a seperate catagory...

catchers,...same

corner guys..are last..RF/1b..3B//..whatever..cuz..you can always get these guys from 2B..and ss guys...

 

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put in all the info....and who fits in the catagories...more than..one time...5 times ok.....in the overall..stratagies..

that is how to wittle..the ..wood...huh..oh..yeah..somehow that did not sound right...

 

[ulmax]

if i draft..3 top ss...one way..or an other....i will have a top 3B...just do not worrie about that...by the time they hit...AAA..
or traded..a ss..for one..................

 

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example

..a team drafts an awsome hitting...LFer...but they play him in RF..and teach him..1B...could happen...just saying..

by the time..he hits...MLB...he is still...a valued...player....just sayin...ya know...

cuz in MLB..there is a center fielder..playing....LF

cutting down the numbers lets you consintrat..on.......pitchers..

 

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mariners .....example...

James Parker​

Modesto Nuts

3B.....james parker

Low-A Affiliate

• SS
• B/T: R/R
• 6' 1"/200
• Age: 21

yes that ..james parker...of clemson...ss.........now 3B........

• #15 James Parker​

  
  
  

 

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Career Stats

Three-time ACC Academic Honor Roll member … was the starting shortstop in 2020 and 2021 … a career .303 hitter with a .454 slugging percentage and .373 on-base percentage in 92 games (80 starts) over three seasons … had 18 doubles, 10 homers, 53 RBIs, 49 runs, 29 walks, seven hit-by-pitches and five steals.

2021: Drafted in the eighth round (No. 234 overall pick) by the Seattle Mariners and signed in July … Second-Team All-ACC selection … All-ACC Academic selection … ACC Academic Honor Roll member … hit .324 with 33 runs, 13 doubles, eight homers, 38 RBIs, a .500 slugging percentage, .411 on-base percentage, 24 walks, seven hit-by-pitches and a steal in 52 games (52 starts at shortstop) … led the team in batting average, at-bats (210), hits (68), doubles and multiple-hit games (21) … tied for the team lead in games, starts and two-out RBIs (19) … only Tiger to start all 52 games in the batting order … had a .929 fielding percentage (14 errors) … had 12 multiple-RBI games … had 19 two-out RBIs … had a 12-game hitting streak from March 2020 to February 2021, which included the last seven games of 2020 and the first five games of 2021 … had an 11-game hitting streak from March to April … had a 10-game hitting streak in May … went 2-for-5 with a homer, three RBIs and the walkoff single in the 10th inning against Cincinnati on Feb. 21 … went 3-for-5 with a game-tying homer in the ninth inning and two RBIs against No. 16 South Carolina at Greenville, S.C. on Feb. 27 … went 1-for-3 with a homer, two runs and a walk against No. 13 Virginia Tech on March 19 … went 1-for-3 with a homer and walk against No. 13 Virginia Tech on March 20 … hit a go-ahead three-run homer on an 0-2 pitch with two outs in the eighth inning against No. 13 Virginia Tech on March 21 … went 3-for-6 with three RBIs and three runs at Boston College on March 26; hit a two-out, two-run single in the seventh inning to tie the score … went 3-for-5 with a homer, two RBIs, a run and walk in the first game of a doubleheader against Boston College on March 27; was 8-for-16 with a homer, six RBIs and four runs in the series … went 2-for-5 with a double and two RBIs against Virginia on April 9 … went 2-for-3 with a homer, two RBIs and two walks against College of Charleston on April 13 … went 3-for-6 with a double, two RBIs and three runs against No. 4 Louisville on May 2 … went 1-for-2 with an RBI, two walks and a hit-by-pitch against No. 16 South Carolina on May 11; received the Bob Bradley Award, as he was 6-for-11 (.545) with a homer, double, four RBIs, two runs and a .667 on-base percentage in the season series … went 2-for-5 with a double, two RBIs and two runs at No. 10 Florida State on May 15 … went 3-for-4 with a homer, double, four RBIs, two runs and a walk against No. 17 Georgia Tech in the ACC Tournament on May 26; was 4-for-8 with a homer, double, four RBIs, three runs and two walks in two ACC Tournament games … No. 327 college prospect for the 2021 draft in the preseason by D1Baseball … No. 44 ACC prospect for the 2021 draft in the preseason by D1Baseball.

 

[ulmax]

nolve marte...ss..right now..could end up a 2B...for example
jamesparker....3B..this is prob right for james....Milkar Perez 13..right at modesto as well..so we will prob see parker at high a everett

Cole Barr #39​

ACL Mariners
Rookie Affiliate

• 3B
• B/T: R/R
• 5' 11"/195
• Age: 23

and

Ben Ramirez #17​

ACL Mariners
Rookie Affiliate

• SS
• B/T: L/R
• 6' 3"/200
• Age: 23

at AZL...all 3b..or 1B..we will see...point is....ya think ..they will..draft...any 3B guys

..well..maybe right...............yeah.....

but they will draft..a lot more....short stops...............