2021-2022 Mariners offseason/free agency thread

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on santiogo....i dont like to see guys put out...in a trivial..way...ill give him an other shot......

he did well..for the mariners....until...he was out....

i blame MLB....
yeah..well..they could be convicted....of ..useing 2 diff...balls.....so i would let it...go...or do they want to make an issue out of it.....


you like a beef..........................yeah..all star..should be a hawaii thing...cuz..they never going to have a baseball team..

 

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you like a beef..........................yeah..all star..should be a hawaii thing...cuz..they never going to have a baseball team..
so they could see all of them at once...and or..take it to pota rico...and or dominican....or..london...or australia...or japan..to pomote the sport..

 

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jose wales..ten bears...ten bears rep...MLB..

 

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give the fans...a gift....and end the strike...doing yourselfs a favor..at the same time......happy holidays..

 

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cheeese..........

MLB Rumors: League & Players Association 'Unlikely' To Discuss Core Economics Until January

this is not.....mojo....more like....bufumofo

 

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stop acting like....its not about...the fans dollars....cuz..if it is not.....ya all......can just go home...................(players and owners)..

and go cry..to yo.....pillow...

 

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Rockies' Trevor Story. The 27-year-old batted .279 with 26 home runs and 92 RBIs in an All-Star 2021 season.

this is not a great year for story...he is only...29 years old....but draft pick....comes with it#4...im ok with that....but i would like to get 1or both back

in a trade...to heck..with the players...i need cbb...picks...they can sit on my sailor spike.....the only..reason ..they dont like competitive..balance..

is so my money..goes up...you already..get paid enough...jirrrrckoooffff....jackson..but the minimum..still could go up...eat ..garbage...and go home to a pillow...
raising the min...sal..alone...could raise..the.mariners...total..sal..by 20mil....then arb..will be raised as well...yeah just the way it is folks..then..you say
lux tax...180....no...i dont think so...i suggest....raise it enough...to help the yankees....225..mil...dodgers would be happy...for now....angels will get close

..i like ..re build..

when the product...goes..to crap.....and who are the players to say....anyway...........................................................................................................................................
go...talk...to your...rev/padres.....and get out of the garbage can............you may need some ...soul...search....and identity check...cuz you not owners..
stay in your own...arena...

opps..sorry to rant.....ok...treavor story......just slap me a few times.....ahhhh..aaahh....ok that did it....

Trevor Story​

Age: 29
Bats/Throws: R/R
6' 2" / 213
SS

Birthdate:	11/15/1992 (29 y, 1 m, 10 d)
Drafted:	2011 June Amateur Draft - Round: CAs, Pick: 12, Overall: 45, Team: Colorado Rockies
Service Time:	6.000	MiLB Options:	n/a

Quick Look

2021 Games Played:	SS:	138	DH:	1

Season	Team	Level	G	PA	HR	AVG	OBP	SLG	wOBA	wRC+	WAR
2021	COL	MLB	142	595	24	.251	.329	.471	.341	100	3.5
2022	Steamer	PROJ	149	655	27	.246	.322	.449	.330	107	3.6
Total	- - -	MLB	745	3136	158	.272	.340	.523	.362	112	21.6

RotoWire News:Story officially declined the Rockies' $18.4 million qualifying offer Wednesday, Jon Heyman of MLB Network reports. (11/17/2021)

Articles:	12/3/2021	RG	The Sleeper and the Bust Episode: 990 – More Moves Before the Lockoutby Paul Sporer
11/8/2021	FG	2022 Top 50 Free Agentsby Ben Clemens

 

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storys peers...and seager..and semien..seem to be better.....even though..spotrac..says..29 mil...aaaahhhh..24500..would be right.....
but the mariners cant go by that...they have to be top bidder......on story...conforto...they could prob just...20.to 22 mil..and its all.. good..
and that prob would be high for conforto..4 years..
story..6..he would be 35..then.with maybe 2 good years left..yeah..not over..7 years..he would be 36...

TOTALS							130	$1,940,325,000	$14,925,577
AVERAGE							2.32	$34,648,661	$14,925,577
PLAYER (56)	POS.	AGE	BATS	THROWS	FROM	TO	YRS	DOLLARS	AVERAGE SALARY
Corey Seager	SS	27.6	L	R	LAD	TEX	10	$325,000,000	$32,500,000
Marcus Semien	2B	31.2	R	R	TOR	TEX	7	$175,000,000	$25,000,000
Javier Baez	SS	28.9	R	R	NYM	DET	6	$140,000,000	$23,333,333

 

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these are actually...some of the top..ss/2B..guys in the league...including story....so this should be close....i think...

spotrac..conforto...

Michael Conforto

RF

28.8

L

R

NYM

TBD

Market Value: $19,107,704

conforto..is a really good...add...and makes it a lot more simple..to deal..with...cuz basicly..re -places seager+++++ his ave is better than seagers..
and his arm..is awsome..in LF or RF....

 

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mariners can really...run.......with this line..up...it is built in..


1.J.P. Crawford 3....L/L...ss

2Trevor Story ............... 2b../ss

SS

29.1

R

R

COL

TBD

Market Value: $29,829,964

3Adam Frazier 26.............DH/2b/3b..L/L

4Mitch Haniger 17................Rf/CF....haniger..can run better...than france...so you have..4 really fast guys...to start
5Ty France 23.........................1B

6Michael Conforto..............dh/RF/LF

RF

28.8

L

R

NYM

TBD

Market Value: $19,107,704

7Tom Murphy 2......catch

8Jarred Kelenic 10......L/L...L/F
9Abraham Toro 13..........3B/1B..look....toro..is better...than bahm(phili)..so lets try him.......if he does not work..send down or trade...i think he will..
and frazier for back up...i dont want to get rid of the guys..that got them as far ...as they got last...year..for an other unknown...basicly..

spring..everyone....should be ready....and re-evaled..anyway..

10.Cal Raleigh 29...catch
11Sam Haggerty 0.........switch....utility....i know...they need him...
12Kyle Lewis 1
13jerry..dipoto....well...swinging door...whoever..or trammell...everything crossed...and spit for luck....

 

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mariners would only need trade...there..excess....and moore may fit anyway....but a prob is cant be sent down..

AAA
..DH..or ss..or both
Jose Caballero 14.....2b..from..arizona in mike leak trade...could a prob....if not takin in major league rule5 draft....or...mariners could pick..there own guy...lololo...so no one else can...so prob would have to invite to spring...at least....loololol

AA..i expect..
Cade Marlowe 10...
Tanner Kirwer 65....both on tacoma right now
Zach DeLoach 32
Jack Larsen 21
this is a really good outfield
1b /3bBobby Honeyman
2BKaden Polcovich 5
ssPatrick Frick 15
3B..???..they are a bit low..aDH...parker..could get..here..fast..im not sure..about..any others..yeah plus dh..

modesto and everett..takin care of for starters...

Walking Cabrera...should at...modesto...

 

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Phillies: Scott Kingery, UTIL (ineligible for Phillies Top 30)
So, he’s not a prospect and anyone taking him would be on the hook for $14.5 million in salary over the next two years, which would make this less of a bargain option. But if he’s healthy, he can play just about anywhere, has some pop and has the speed to steal bases.

a lot of team...may skip him.....in rule 5..i dont think...mariners will....or oakland..and maybe not washington either...but they are prob after..pitchers
if on 60 day..no prob...if healthy..no prob again...lololol,...nice...

why....insurance...and he is a better hitter..than haggerty..or.. moore..but ...i woud still need haggerty..at #13...unless..trammell..was there

 

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the guy above is prob as good as the mariners could do...they prob would have to re-turn..any others.....or i missed a bull pen guy.who could make it.....but he could be gone..by pick 21...as well...yawn.........or trade him onto the 4o man..10 min before the draft....lolo,olol

 

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of interest..in rule 5...

Angels: Robinson Pina, RHP (No. 20)
Pina pitched his way to Double-A in 2021, though he struggled there and then had a bit of an inconsistent showing in the Arizona Fall League. Still, he struck out 13.2 per nine during the regular season and showed a high-spin rate fastball (over 2,500 rpm) up to 95 mph and a slider that can miss bats in the AFL. A starter in the past, he has stuff that could tick up in shorter stints out of the 'pen, where command issues won’t be as much of an obstacle.

Rockies: Tommy Doyle, RHP (unranked on Rockies Top 30)
Just a year ago, Doyle looked like a success story, going from being the University of Virginia’s closer in 2017 to saving 37 games over his first two Minor League seasons and making his brief big league debut in 2020. A shoulder injury sidelined him for nearly all of 2021, so a team would have to be sure he’s healthy, but he was once a Top 30 prospect with a plus fastball and above-average curve.

so yeah...i would trade for kingery...then..rule 5 for one of these 2..or nothing..

 

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mariners ..bull pen..

Ken Giles 58.....Cl
Diego Castillo 63
Justus Sheffield 33....L/L
Paul Sewald 37
Casey Sadler 65
Drew Steckenrider 16
Anthony Misiewicz..L/L
Matt Brash 47
Erik Swanson 50...swanny is a good pitcher...even last year...if he gits better..he may be devisdating...25000..revs..nice

021

SEA

AL

0

3

3.31

33

2

0

0

5

1

3

35.1

28

18

13

5

564

1

10

1

35

.212

1.08

0.56

Andrés Muñoz 54
Yohan Ramirez 55
Wyatt Mills 40
Joey Gerber 59
Aaron Fletcher 41......L/L

Juan Then 43
...they could use a Lh..relief at tacoma....but not dying for one...

 

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Matt Brash 47...is prob start at tacoma...but ya never know....


trevor story..bat..stats standard....fan graphs

Standard
PostseasonProjectionsMinor LeaguesRegular MLB Seasons

Season	Team	Level	G	AB	PA	H	1B	2B	3B	HR	R	RBI	BB	IBB	SO	HBP	SF	SH	GDP	SB	CS	AVG
2016	COL	MLB	97	372	415	101	49	21	4	27	67	72	35	2	130	5	1	2	5	8	5	.272
2017	COL	MLB	145	503	555	120	61	32	3	24	68	82	49	4	191	2	1	0	12	7	2	.239
2018	COL	MLB	157	598	656	174	89	42	6	37	88	108	47	3	168	7	4	0	12	27	6	.291
2019	COL	MLB	145	588	656	173	95	38	5	35	111	85	58	0	174	7	3	0	3	23	8	.294
2020	COL	MLB	59	235	259	68	40	13	4	11	41	28	24	1	63	0	0	0	5	15	3	.289
2021	COL	MLB	142	526	595	132	69	34	5	24	88	75	53	2	139	11	5	0	7	20	6	.251
2022	Steamer	PROJ	149	581	655	143	82	31	4	27	85	88	59	2	166	9	5	2		20	7	.246
Total	- - -	MLB	745	2822	3136	768	403	180	27	158	463	450	266	12	865	32	14	2	44	100	30	.2

 

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same..with war....def..slide the bar over
DashboardCustomize
PostseasonProjectionsMinor LeaguesRegular MLB Seasons

Season	Team	Level	Age	G	PA	HR	R	RBI	SB	BB%	K%	ISO	BABIP	AVG	OBP	SLG	wOBA	xwOBA	wRC+	BsR	Off	Def	WAR
2016	COL	MLB	23	97	415	27	67	72	8	8.4%	31.3%	.296	.343	.272	.341	.567	.380	.360	122	1.9	13.2	3.9	3.1
2017	COL	MLB	24	145	555	24	68	82	7	8.8%	34.4%	.219	.332	.239	.308	.457	.323	.295	82	1.0	-12.0	7.8	1.4
2018	COL	MLB	25	157	656	37	88	108	27	7.2%	25.6%	.276	.345	.291	.348	.567	.384	.352	128	1.8	24.4	4.8	5.1
2019	COL	MLB	26	145	656	35	111	85	23	8.8%	26.5%	.260	.361	.294	.363	.554	.380	.337	122	5.9	25.0	15.1	6.0
2020	COL	MLB	27	59	259	11	41	28	15	9.3%	24.3%	.230	.354	.289	.355	.519	.370	.333	118	4.0	10.0	6.3	2.5
2021	COL	MLB	28	142	595	24	88	75	20	8.9%	23.4%	.221	.293	.251	.329	.471	.341	.333	100	6.4	6.1	9.6	3.5
2022	Steamer	PROJ	29	149	655	27	85	88	20	9.0%	25.4%	.203	.296	.246	.322	.449	.330		107	1.6	7.7	6.3	3.6
Total	- - -	MLB		745	3136	158	463	450	100	8.5%	27.6%	.251	.336	.272	.340	.523	.362

 

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story..war..proj3.6..def at 6.3...would go up at 2B..for mariners

#	Name	Team	Pos	PA	IP	Primary WAR	Total WAR
123 Page size: 63 items in 3 pages
1​	Ty France	Mariners	1B	650​	​	3.5​	3.5​
2​	J.P. Crawford	Mariners	SS	687​	​	3.1​	3.1​
3​	Chris Flexen	Mariners	P	​	179.2​	3.0​	3.0​
4​	Mitch Haniger	Mariners	RF	691​	​	2.8​	2.8​
5​	Kyle Seager	Mariners	3B	670​	​	2.5​	2.5​
6​	Logan Gilbert	Mariners	P	​	119.1​	2.2​	2.2​
7​	Paul Sewald	Mariners	P	​	64.2​	1.4​	1.4​
8​	Drew Steckenrider	Mariners	P	​	67.2​	1.3​	1.3​
9​	Casey Sadler	Mariners	P	​	40.1​	1.1​	1.1​
10​	Yusei Kikuchi	Mariners	P	​	157.0​	1.1​	1.1​
11​	Tom Murphy	Mariners	C	325​	​	1.0​	1.0​
12​	Abraham Toro	Mariners	2B	253​	​	0.8​	0.8​
13​	Kendall Graveman	Mariners	P	​	33.0​	0.8​	0.8​
14​	Tyler Anderson	Mariners	P	​	63.2​	0.7​	0.8​
15​	Justin Dunn	Mariners	P	​	50.1​	0.5​	0.6​
16​	Marco Gonzales	Mariners	P	​	143.1​	0.6​	0.5​
17​	JT Chargois	Mariners	P	​	30.0​	0.5​	0.5​
18​	Jake Fraley	Mariners	LF	265​	​	0.5​	0.5​
19​	Anthony Misiewicz	Mariners	P	​	54.2​	0.5​	0.5​
20​	Joe Smith	Mariners	P	​	18.0​	0.5​	0.5​
21​	Erik Swanson	Mariners	P	​	35.1​	0.4​	0.4​
22​	Hector Santiago	Mariners	P	​	26.1​	0.3​	0.3​
23​	Kyle Lewis	Mariners	CF	147​	​	0.3​	0.3​
24​	Luis Torrens	Mariners	C/DH	378​	​	0.3​	0.3​
25​	Rafael Montero	Mariners	P	​	43.1​	0.3​	0.3​
26​	Matt Andriese	Mariners	P	​	11.0​	0.2​	0.2​
27​	Dylan Moore	Mariners	2B/LF	377​	​	0.2​	0.2​
28​	Will Vest	Mariners	P	​	35.0​	0.1​	0.1​
29​	Sean Doolittle	Mariners	P	​	11.1​	0.1​	0.1​
30​	Cal Raleigh	Mariners	C	148​	​	0.1​	0.1​