2021-2022 Mariners offseason/free agency thread

[ulmax]

i dont think i really...understood the graph above....and that...moran..had played..3B in2019..and 2018..and i think bell..was pitts 1B then..
and he played some at 2b....11 games..nice..

 

[wazzu31]

I had heard Toro but not White. I do not see any point in putting White out there. He has a defensive position, just needs to hit. Until he at least proves he can hit in AAA there's zero reason to factor him into anything

I may be wrong, but I swore a writer brought up White in his postseason presser and Jerry said he could see him trying to play in the outfield because of his athleticism. I do agree in premise with Jerry wanting Crawford at SS but IMO it would be dumb to not sign a top SS free agent if that guy wants SS. Crawford can either slide to the easier 2B or Jerry could sell high on Crawford at the moment. If all works out to plan, Crawford is the number 9 hitter for the team.

 

[ulmax]

I may be wrong, but I swore a writer brought up White in his postseason presser and Jerry said he could see him trying to play in the outfield because of his athleticism. I do agree in premise with Jerry wanting Crawford at SS but IMO it would be dumb to not sign a top SS free agent if that guy wants SS. Crawford can either slide to the easier 2B or Jerry could sell high on Crawford at the moment. If all works out to plan, Crawford is the number 9 hitter for the team.

yeah...i think ..the basic.....idea...for a lot of us is trevor story.....cross your fingers....or whatever....yeah...i think..story at 2B..would go over really well
leaves..frazier...at...DH...a lot..really..you could put almost any..there..depending.....i mean..DH....2b story and frazier...what more do ya need

 

[wazzu31]

I actually didn't take that into consideration when mentioning Conforto.

If I had to speculate, he probably declined the tag so that he could attempt to get a multi-year deal in free agency and if he doesn't, he'd get a one year deal worth around the tag amount he was offered.

This is what MLBTR had to say about it while projecting he signs a 1 year deal worth $20m. I think it's a good take:

There will be teams that happily make Conforto a multiyear offer, crediting his long track record as one of the game’s better left-handed hitters over his mediocre 2021. The guess here is that Conforto will turn down the qualifying offer, find the multiyear offers insufficient, and sign a comparable one-year deal with a new team to rebuild value and shake off the QO. Yasmani Grandal and Marcell Ozuna followed this model successfully. If the Mets don’t hammer something out with Conforto, he could fit with the Rangers, Braves, Phillies, Cubs, Brewers, Rockies, Padres, Guardians, and Royals.

I guess it does change my calculus a bit. I do think it's an option worth keeping our eyes on though.

All the scuttle bud with Conforto is he wants to be in Seattle and even possibly giving a hometown discount because he wants to come home. But that also means a multi year deal and I just don’t think Jerry is there. Ever time Jerry has been asked about the needs for the off-season one of them is a left handed power bat. And he is the opposite of Cruz where he could play in the field to give days for Lewis and Haniger to DH. But then, there is the JRod issue. Signing him might mean that Jerry has to trade Haniger…preferably for a starting catcher. Raleigh really changed my perception of him in Tacoma last year but he and Raleigh going into the season as the catchers is a big weakness IMO. As of now Raleigh’s role should be backup with the ability to take innings from the starter and Murphy’s role is to figure out how replicate 2018 instead of the rest of his baseball card.

 

[ulmax]

All the scuttle bud with Conforto is he wants to be in Seattle and even possibly giving a hometown discount because he wants to come home. But that also means a multi year deal and I just don’t think Jerry is there. Ever time Jerry has been asked about the needs for the off-season one of them is a left handed power bat. And he is the opposite of Cruz where he could play in the field to give days for Lewis and Haniger to DH. But then, there is the JRod issue. Signing him might mean that Jerry has to trade Haniger…preferably for a starting catcher. Raleigh really changed my perception of him in Tacoma last year but he and Raleigh going into the season as the catchers is a big weakness IMO. As of now Raleigh’s role should be backup with the ability to take innings from the starter and Murphy’s role is to figure out how replicate 2018 instead of the rest of his baseball card.

just depends on if you think moore is expendable..cuz story..could ss..frazier..2b..or toro...if no story..it may not be a prob...anyway....its hard..to say..

so if all that is right...toro..has to be your 3B..at least...for now..and uless..they get..an other ..1B...like moran......where france could 3B..
basicly..i think..no trevor story..then they could conforto...or they may be able..to regardless.....if Cf..is taken care of...

 

[ulmax]

so if all that is right...toro..has to be your 3B..at least...for now..and uless..they get..an other ..1B...like moran......where france could 3B..
basicly..i think..no trevor story..then they could conforto...or they may be able..to regardless.....if Cf..is taken care of.....

or they could send kelinic ..down...which..i do not think they will do.....unless...he is really bad...at the start..

let me do a line up with conforto....and story..no..moore

 

[ulmax]

line up....100,000,0001.00

1J.P. Crawford 3....ss...L/L
2Trevor Story.................2B
3Adam Frazier 26...........dh..L/L
4Mitch Haniger 17........RF/CF
5Ty France 23.............1b
6.Michael Conforto76Rf/DH....L/L..Odubel Herrera...he is the guy..who really fits..CF
7Tom Murphy 2...catch...
8Jarred Kelenic0.....L/L...LF
9 Abraham Toro 13.....3B..

10Cal Raleigh 29......catch
11a/Adam Frazier 26
11b/Dylan Moore 25...and moore is traded
12Kyle Lewis 1.......OF
131b/3b...for..me moran...lolol

frazier..off the bench...dh/2b/utility........if haniger..CF..otherwise...i have to say..it does not work..as well...herrera...works

 

[ulmax]

its all...speculation..till..players come back....whatever........
oof coarse..its not bad..if haniger..is cf...not bad at all...and moore stays ..

 

[SeattleCoug]

I hope I'm wrong on this, but I'm not sure if putting Lewis at DH will solve the issue with his knees. Sure it'll reduce the amount of running a bit, but he still has to run the bases. I honestly don't know if his knee injuries were a result of playing outfield or perhaps running too hard, but there's definitely something wrong there.

Fair take, I have no idea either. I just know that he is the best CF in the organization currently but that also will put the most stress on his knee so I am unsure of the solution for him or CF

 

[ulmax]

nope he is not haniger.....but he is haniger...like...prob 1st or 2nd round...depending on how he does this year......keep a serius..eye on him...as many other mlb.clubs..will be as well...most likely a cbb..pick..or early 2nd round..
pac 12...HRS leader...last year..
when..ya draft....you have to think...pitchers...shortstops..and centerfielders...yes..in that order...why..to win the game..i have to stop the other team
from scoring...defence..starts..with the pitcher...short..is usually..your best athlete..and maney can play..CF..CFis your most.athletic..outfielder..
your whole team...starts...from those 3.....pos..catcher..is a whole..diff..thing to me..ijust want to have enough of them....lololol

17DYLAN BEAVERS​

• POSITION Outfield
• CLASS Junior
• HEIGHT/WEIGHT 6-4 / 206
• BAT/THROW L/R
• HOMETOWN Paso Robles, Calif.
• HIGH SCHOOL Mission College Preparatory HS
• MAJOR Undeclared

 

[ulmax]

if not...your starter...then..who...

excercise...for sports hoopa..mariners fans....write down your starting line up....then put...who...would replace them...you will end up...with a depth chart....to the 3rd.. or 4th lvl....ready....set....gooo

add your frree agents in..as you please....

 

[ulmax]

you can use...40 man...///// means at tacoma

1.P. Crawford ....ss..L/LTrevor StoryDylan Moore 25////Donovan Walton 8

2Trevor Story..........2bAdam Frazier 26Abraham Toro 13Dylan Moore 25/// Donovan Walton 8 3Adam Frazier 26.........DHColin MoranKyle Lewis 1 4Mitch Haniger 17..........RFKyle Lewis 1Dylan Moore 25 5Ty France 23........1B...Colin Moran../////Evan White 12 6Odubel Herrera.......CFMitch Haniger 17Jarred Kelenic 10...this..is the prob..with conforto...and lewis....really..and the point..of this excercise 7Tom Murphy 2...catch..Cal Raleigh 29/////José Godoy 78Luis Torrens 22 8Jarred Kelenic 10...LF..Kyle Lewis 1Dylan Moore 25 9Abraham Toro 13..........3bTy France 23Colin Moran it should look....somethiing like this...

 

[ulmax]

its ok if haniger is cf..and conforto...is Rf..yeah..that would take care..of starters...but who..would back up...lewis..or only..kelenic..

and if they can not sign...herrera....but they can..conforto...then a trade....maybe..in order...i cant think...of who...or who...right now...
but...hopefully you get the idea..

 

[ulmax]

the mariners...already...have a solution...if he is ready.....

Sam Haggerty 0

haggerty...can CF...where...moore..is challanged...at that pos..........
if so...a trade...dylan moore....could happen....and a sign....conforto...could happen....
one of many....what ifs....

yeah...that..is...the..dil..e..ma

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missrable peace..

 

[ulmax]

i think...google needs...to sit on my sailor..spike....for there own...good...
just my in rage opinion.....


angry dogs...barking at google...

 

[ulmax]

if lewis..is in CF..all...this is academic..and they sign conforto.....with a happy face...maybe still trade moore...in favor of haggerty..
but i would not be hasty..on that...cuz haggerty...has been injured...a lot...
on the other..hand..having a spot...on the 4o man...for haggerty..seems good...

 

[ulmax]

if lewis is still a year..or more away...a trade...may be in order...with a team like...wash nationals..who are in rebuild anyway...
not a thing i like to think of...

 

[ulmax]

while..the mariners...where...crying....they may have ..tooo..even though..they dont..want to....

Mariners​

Name	Age	Level	P1	P2	Availablility	Years	AFV	Salary	Surplus	Low	Median	High
House		Minors	3B						22.5	17.6	22.5	27.4
Rogers	26	Majors	LHRP	SP	Medium	5.0	3.1	2.0	1.1	0.8	1.1	1.4

Total Value: 23.60​

Nationals​

Name	Age	Level	P1	P2	Availablility	Years	AFV	Salary	Surplus	Low	Median	High
Lewis	26	Majors	OF		Low	4.0	35.6	12.1	23.5	18.8	23.5	28.2

this would auto conforto...at back up LF/RF/DH...and they..may sign..

Odubel Herrera
Baseball center fielder...as well......

 

[ulmax]

while there..is that...i dont think..he is done...but...that is just it.....we dont know..

 

[ulmax]

just in case we forget..what we are missing..

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