2020 NFL Draft

[DALLAScornhusker]

I agree. if we are talking one particular guy we want. if we have 4 or 5 guys we legit like graded the same & we move back 7 or 8 spots. I am cool with that kind of gamble.

Otherwise I am always leary of getting to cute, if the guy we are targeting is there at our pick.

In the case above (weighing Chaisson or pass) we take the player every time. When that player and more targets graded similarly are gone, you turn attention toward the next group and decide how far to move back. You don't ever stand still and take the lower graded player (reach). That is when you end up drafting a Taco - or more in line with this situation - a Felix Jones (Baun) to use as a specialist when there are plenty of good full time players on the board. If you didn't already have a solid RB like Barber III (LVE and Smith), then the pick wouldn't hurt so bad because he'll be counted on more and play a high %.

I'll pony up 17 for a guy who has a legit chance at being a pro bowler as an OLB and could transition into a down DE on 3rd down and maybe grow into his frame to become a permanent weak side DE in the future.

I won't do the same for an OLB with a little weaker pass rush traits but also size/skill limitations that keep him at one position as a stand up Sam.

 

[Schmoopy1000]

In the case above (weighing Chaisson or pass) we take the player every time. When that player and more targets graded similarly are gone, you turn attention toward the next group and decide how far to move back. You don't ever stand still and take the lower graded player (reach). That is when you end up drafting a Taco - or more in line with this situation - a Felix Jones (Baun) to use as a specialist when there are plenty of good full time players on the board. If you didn't already have a solid RB like Barber III (LVE and Smith), then the pick wouldn't hurt so bad because he'll be counted on more and play a high %.

I'll pony up 17 for a guy who has a legit chance at being a pro bowler as an OLB and could transition into a down DE on 3rd down and maybe grow into his frame to become a permanent weak side DE in the future.

I won't do the same for an OLB with a little weaker pass rush traits but also size/skill limitations that keep him at one position as a stand up Sam.

honestly in this draft. I do not want to see a LB or TE picked with our 1st rd. pick. Only exclusion is if Simmons fell to us. (who I would want to use more as a Darren Woodson than an actual LB anyways)

My actual wishlist (not names of players but just position) at 17.
DT, DB, Game changing WR.

Although wont complain about any of the other positions (except the 2 already mentioned)

 

[DALLAScornhusker]

I want the best CB we could get, a good C, a WR that stretches the field and scares safeties and DCs, a DL that can function in 2 gap, an intelligent safety that doesn't miss tackles, and a situational pass rusher or DE.
Might be too much to ask for, but all this can be had in this draft.

 

[Schmoopy1000]

I want the best CB we could get, a good C, a WR that stretches the field and scares safeties and DCs, a DL that can function in 2 gap, an intelligent safety that doesn't miss tackles, and a situational pass rusher or DE.
Might be too much to ask for, but all this can be had in this draft.

All in one draft. Yeah probably too much to ask. But hey. Might as well shoot for the stars!!! (or Star)

 

[DALLAScornhusker]

This is what I'd want in my draft.
1. CB CJ Henderson, Florida
2. OLB/DE Julian Okwara, Note Dame
3. OC Tyler (Badass) Biadasz, Wisconsin
4. WR Devin Duvernay, Texas
5. DT McTelvin Agim, Arkansas
5. SS Javin White, UNLV
7. OT Trey Adams, Washington

 

[tomodach10]

This is what I'd want in my draft.
1. CB CJ Henderson, Florida
2. OLB/DE Julian Okwara, Note Dame
3. OC Tyler (Badass) Biadasz, Wisconsin
4. WR Devin Duvernay, Texas
5. DT McTelvin Agim, Arkansas
5. SS Javin White, UNLV
7. OT Trey Adams, Washington

Good list. I would take Diggs first.

 

[jarntt]

In the case above (weighing Chaisson or pass) we take the player every time. When that player and more targets graded similarly are gone, you turn attention toward the next group and decide how far to move back. You don't ever stand still and take the lower graded player (reach). That is when you end up drafting a Taco - or more in line with this situation - a Felix Jones (Baun) to use as a specialist when there are plenty of good full time players on the board. If you didn't already have a solid RB like Barber III (LVE and Smith), then the pick wouldn't hurt so bad because he'll be counted on more and play a high %.

I'll pony up 17 for a guy who has a legit chance at being a pro bowler as an OLB and could transition into a down DE on 3rd down and maybe grow into his frame to become a permanent weak side DE in the future.

I won't do the same for an OLB with a little weaker pass rush traits but also size/skill limitations that keep him at one position as a stand up Sam.

You get a Taco when you draft need over BPA

 

[ArlingtonCowboys100]

seen a 4 round mock where we pick up Tyler Biadasz - C from Wisconsin. (pick 123)

Anyone know about this guy?

If there in 3rd I would like him.

 

[ArlingtonCowboys100]

Why trade back, if guy you want is there? If you trade back a few spots, someone can jump you and get your guy. Stay put.

I tend to agree. I really dont remember too many trade downs that worked in our favor. . 2009 draft we traded down enough to miss out on NFL quality players and ended up with a collection of players that could not crack an arena league team.

 

[PDay8810]

It's going to be interesting to see how many trades are made when teams are on the clock in this draft. I'm thinking less than previous years. I still think if the the guys you want at 17 are gone then a trade back would be best if you can find a partner. Everything I'm reading say's there will be solid NFL football players in rounds 2,3 & 4 with an emphases on the DB's and WR's. Still hope we draft two DB's by the end of round 4

 

[PDay8810]

This is what I'd want in my draft.
1. CB CJ Henderson, Florida
2. OLB/DE Julian Okwara, Note Dame
3. OC Tyler (Badass) Biadasz, Wisconsin
4. WR Devin Duvernay, Texas
5. DT McTelvin Agim, Arkansas
5. SS Javin White, UNLV
7. OT Trey Adams, Washington

Husker....I like a local kid who played his last season with his brother at Nebraska. Darrion Daniels
Good kid with a huge desire to get better and projected to go in the 5th round. Why not this guy over Agim?

 

[ArlingtonCowboys100]

In the case above (weighing Chaisson or pass) we take the player every time. When that player and more targets graded similarly are gone, you turn attention toward the next group and decide how far to move back. You don't ever stand still and take the lower graded player (reach). That is when you end up drafting a Taco - or more in line with this situation - a Felix Jones (Baun) to use as a specialist when there are plenty of good full time players on the board. If you didn't already have a solid RB like Barber III (LVE and Smith), then the pick wouldn't hurt so bad because he'll be counted on more and play a high %.

I'll pony up 17 for a guy who has a legit chance at being a pro bowler as an OLB and could transition into a down DE on 3rd down and maybe grow into his frame to become a permanent weak side DE in the future.

I won't do the same for an OLB with a little weaker pass rush traits but also size/skill limitations that keep him at one position as a stand up Sam.

Chaisson didn't put up huge sack totals,but the potential is there. I don't know if I would pass on him.. I dont like trading down,but I would target Gladney If we were to trade down. I also would trade down if a team was dumb enough to give us their 1st rounder, a 2nd or 3rd rounder this years draft and a number 1 next year. Make it worth our while. Maybe a team that is desperate for a QB would be this stupid?

 

[DALLAScornhusker]

Husker....I like a local kid who played his last season with his brother at Nebraska. Darrion Daniels
Good kid with a huge desire to get better and projected to go in the 5th round. Why not this guy over Agim?

Not aggresive enough for a slow footed power player. Daniels allows the lineman to direct where he goes. Doesn’t have a feel for resisting, just pushes forward. And if his momentum is stopped, he rarely re-engaged, just became more spectator than player. He wasn't the only one either, which is why I won't co-sign for any Husker in this class.
Maybe he was different at OSU, I haven't bothered to look into his past.

 

[Nasty_Magician]

I don't like him at 17 but I think Brandon Aiyuk would be perfect for this offense (if we moved back in the first). Not a great route runner but electric with the ball in his hands.

 

[PDay8810]

Not aggresive enough for a slow footed power player. Daniels allows the lineman to direct where he goes. Doesn’t have a feel for resisting, just pushes forward. And if his momentum is stopped, he rarely re-engaged, just became more spectator than player. He wasn't the only one either, which is why I won't co-sign for any Husker in this class.
Maybe he was different at OSU, I haven't bothered to look into his past.

well....I hope your assessment is wrong. He is rated the 15th best DT in this draft, so he musta shown a flash or two along the way.

 

[DALLAScornhusker]

well....I hope your assessment is wrong. He is rated the 15th best DT in this draft, so he musta shown a flash or two along the way.

I just now read what NFL.com has for their assessment on him, looks like he had a great year and a half at OSU. Might be more tilted toward those performances where mine is based only what I saw at Nebraska. I do know he never flashed here the way Collins did. Different players, styles, and techniques played - we now run more 3-4 - but he was sandwiched between the twin Davis' who are also on these draft lists. I won't talk negatively about them but I also won't vouch for Dallas to take them.

 

[PDay8810]

I just now read what NFL.com has for their assessment on him, looks like he had a great year and a half at OSU. Might be more tilted toward those performances where mine is based only what I saw at Nebraska. I do know he never flashed here the way Collins did. Different players, styles, and techniques played - we now run more 3-4 - but he was sandwiched between the twin Davis' who are also on these draft lists. I won't talk negatively about them but I also won't vouch for Dallas to take them.

Fair enough
a Dallas sports talk station interviewed him this week. Guy was posed and said the right things. He grew up here and said would love to play in his home town.

 

[jarntt]

 

[Schmoopy1000]

What round is Justin Jefferson, LSU supposed to be drafted in?

Somethings I read I liked.
With Cooper & Gallup on the outsides for the foreseeable future.

Pro comparison: Cooper Kupp (65.3 catches per year, 865.3 receiving yards per year, 13.2 yards per catch, 7 receiving touchdowns per year, 2017-19).

Neither Jefferson nor Kupp were highly recruited coming out of high school, though they both come from families of athletes. Jefferson's father, John, was a college basketball player, and Jefferson's brothers, Jordan and Rickey, played football at LSU. Kupp's father, Craig, meanwhile, played in the NFL, and I drafted his grandfather, Jake, to play for the Cowboys in 1964. Running mostly possession routes, Jefferson caught 111 passes for 1,540 yards and 18 scores in 2019. He has a knack for making acrobatic catches; Jerry Sullivan, Jefferson's former position coach at LSU, raves about him. Jefferson had a great workout at the NFL Scouting Combine (4.43-second 40-yard dash, 37.5-inch vertical jump, 10-foot-6 broad jump). He's very quick, strong and smart. His best position is the slot, and like Kupp, he excels at creating separation coming out of the break. Jefferson will catch a lot of passes for many years.

 

[jarntt]

I think most mocks have him late 1st early second? Personally I think he is just a hair below the top 3 and some may argue as good. I think he goes mid to late-mid first. It's funny. I had people telling me this past season that Burrow isn't great it's his WRs and now you hear Jefferson isn't great it's the Offense and Chase on the opposite side of the field. Reminds me of Aikman was only good because of Emmitt and Emmitt was only good because of the OL. Maybe everyone is good? I'm not suggesting draft him at #17 because I think there will be better players on board and I would only want us to take a WR if we felt the player was clearly the BPA and I doubt we would have him ranked like that, but I think he'd fit well as a slot guy here and would love to trade up if he falls into the 2nd (but I don't see it). I don't know if he can win on the outside in tough man at this level, but when you watch him dominate in a wide open spread offense running all over the field it looks like he'd be a day one contributor in the slot to me. He would be really good in Dallas. I hear a lot of people saying Philly should take him with their 1st pick. With those 2 TEs and shit WRs, I see Philly needing a more stereotypical outside guy or field stretcher and I'm not sure he will be that year 1. Maybe my perception of him is wrong and that's what he is, but if so, then that makes him an even better prospect.