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...But it still bothers me (ignorantly?) that we drafted to a position of strength (catching, offense) rather than a position of need (pitching, infield)....
I agree though.

From Around the Foghorn
"After the Giants selected NC State catcher Patrick Bailey with the 13th overall pick yesterday, they were the only team with more than 5 selections on Day 2 of the MLB Draft. The Giants used their six picks on a slew of prospects to give them the following draft class.

13. Patrick Bailey, Catcher, North Carolina State
49. Casey Schmitt, 3B/RHP, San Diego State
67. Nick Swiney, LHP, North Carolina State
68. Jimmy Glowenke, SS, Grand Canyon
85. Kyle Harrison, LHP, De La Salle HS (CA)
114. Roderick (RJ) Dabovich, RHP, Arizona State
144. Ryan Murphy, RHP, Le Moyne College

Check out my grades and reports on each pick.

Who the Giants took: Patrick Bailey, Catcher, North Carolina State
13th overall pick
Expected Signing Bonus: Just below or at slot value
Future-Value Grade: 45
Grade: B-

The Giants had some more exciting options available on the board at 13. Prep righty Mick Abel, catcher Tyler Soderstrom, and shortstop Ed Howard were three of my favorite prospects, but Bailey wasn't a stretch. Expected to go in the early to late teens, Bailey's selection fit right in line with his draft stock, and any fans' frustration is more rooted in a preference for different profiles.

Catching is always valued more highly by pro teams than fans and one baseball insider told me they loved what the Giants did by adding Bailey to a system that already has Joey Bart the Giants put them in a great position to have a great replacement for Buster Posey and potentially move the other if they both pan out.

Early reactions focused on Bailey's elite defense behind the plate, but the more I talked to insiders, the more positive reviews his bat got. While Bailey has struggled at times with swing-and-miss, most people I talked to have confidence that he'll be able to be an above-average hitter.

The public scouting community consensus seemed to view his offensive profile as a poor man's comp of Joey Bart with a ceiling for his hit tool around 50 and power at 55 that probably ends up as a 45/55 profile (Bart is more around 55/60 and likely 50/60). However, it seemed that a few insiders believe Bailey has the potential to be above-average across the board.

Bailey's approach helps alleviate some of the contact concerns. Over his career at NC State he walked 86 times in 578 plate appearances alongside 93 strikeouts. In fact, his career triple-slash line of .302/.411/.568 is quite comparable to his former teammate and recently acquired Giants prospect Will Wilson when he played at NC State.

A switch-hitter, Bailey has been equally effective from both sides of the plate, so there does not appear to be too much platoon risk and his makeup gets consistently rave reviews. In fact, he was actually in Wilson's wedding. Bailey, like Bart, called pitches for the entirety of his collegiate career (and even called pitches in high school).

Still, Bailey's closest thing to a premium tool is his work behind the plate. A "premium defender" according to one insider, Bailey was the best defensive catcher available in the draft.

One wrinkle that hasn't been discussed with Bailey is the potential for him to play elsewhere. Since he's a consensus solid defensive catcher scouts never really questioned whether he'd have to move positions, but with Bart already in the organization it remains an open question.

Bailey is considered a good athlete for a catcher, but it's unclear if that translates elsewhere on the diamond. It's worth noting that last year the Giants suggested they thought their second-round pick (Logan Wyatt) could handle the outfield when almost everyone considered him a first-base only prospect, implying they may have faith in their ability to teach positional flexibility.
Who the Giants took: Casey Schmitt, 3B/RHP, San Diego State

49th overall pick
Expected Signing Bonus: Below-slot
Future-Value Grade: 40
Grade: C-

Schmitt was one of my 21 players to watch on Day 2 of the draft, but even I didn't expect to hear his name called this early. Schmitt seemed like a late 3rd-5th round prospect and given his flexibility it seemed likely he was a good candidate to go a bit higher for a below-slot deal and it seems the Giants to dove right in with that mindset. The slot for 49th pick is just over $1.5MM, but I'd expect Schmitt to sign for closer to $1MM.

Schmitt was a two-way contributor at San Diego State where he served as an everyday third baseman and high-leverage bullpen arm. He was announced as a third baseman, but the Giants PR team shared his information as a 3B/RHP. While the Giants have not developed a two-way guy yet, president of baseball operations Farhan Zaidi has seemed very open to the idea in the past.

From my view, he's a future 45 reliever and batter, which might allow him to consistently contribute 1.5-2.5 wins above replacement with a creative coaching staff and front office. His fastball sits from 92-94mph and has tremendous late-movement that allows it to play up and pair well with a potentially average curveball and splitter. As a hitter, Schmitt is an above-average third baseman with a plus arm and plus raw power. The hit tool is pretty underdeveloped and he has yet to tap into his power potential, but some scouts are quite high on his potential to develop at the plate with more time.

Schmitt tore his right meniscus before the start of this season, so while his production was more good than great, a scout could see the injury covering up greater potential production. While the value seemed like a reach, Schmitt has an intriguing skillset that allows you to project a pretty high floor while also dream on his tools a bit as well. The Giants have invested heavily in their player development and they'll be responsible for making the organization look smart with this pick.

3 OF 8
Who the Giants took: Nick Swiney, LHP, North Carolina State
67th overall pick
Expected Signing Bonus: Slot value
Future-Value Grade: 35+
Grade: B

Giants scouting director Michael Holmes built his reputation in the Carolinas and he's been very keen on tapping into his history over the past two cycles. Swiney joins former teammates Wilson and Bailey in San Francisco's system out of NC State.

There was no consensus on Swiney among public scouting heads. FanGraphs ranked Swiney the 51st best prospect in the draft and Keith Law of The Athletic ranked him as worthy of a first-round pick (22nd overall), but most other boards had him ranked around 80.

Swiney fits the pitching profile that the Giants have seemed to favor over the past couple drafts. The southpaw doesn't have traditional overpowering stuff, his fastball works in the low-90s as a starter and sat around 93-95mph out of the pen.

His fastball works alongside a changeup and curveball. The breaking ball projects as above-average and gets some plus grades. However, he's made some notable strides with his changeup and it looks like it could be a usable big-league pitch as well.

Working out of the bullpen through his first two seasons, Swiney racked up strikeouts, but it came with sacrificed control. As a sophomore, Swiney struck out 95 batters in less than 60 innings but walked nearly 5 batters per innings.

Out of nowhere this spring, Swiney moved into the rotation and through four starts seemed like he'd reached a new level. He didn't lose too much velocity in the rotation and he showed newfound control, walking just 6 batters in 28 innings across 4 starts. More importantly, he maintained the same kind of swing-and-miss punch, striking out 13.5 batters per nine.

Law believed Swiney was going to pitch himself into the back-end of the first round if the season hadn't been cut short. Pitch-tracking data seems keen on Swiney's fastball movement to help it play beyond its velocity as well. While the track record remains short-lived, there is plenty of reason to believe he can be a mid to back of rotation arm."
 

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Pt 2:

"4 OF 8
Who the Giants took: Jimmy Glowenke, SS, Grand Canyon
68th overall pick
Expected Signing Bonus: Below-slot
Future-Value Grade: 35
Grade: D

This pick is the most confusing of the class. Glowenke ranked outside of most everyone's top-100 and only one of the remaining picks seems likely to require a substantial above-slot bonus. Potential savings from the Schmitt pick would seem to have been enough to cover any discrepancies. Honestly, I wonder if the Giants had another above-slot pick in mind that fell through either because the player's reps backed out or another team called their bluff and selected them.

Glowenke is a solid prospect and was a consensus 3rd-4th round prospect. Young for his class, Glowenke only turned 21-years old six days ago. The starting shortstop for Grand Canyon, his professional future is probably more reliant on defensive versatility around different parts of the diamond. On the Cape last year, Glowenke played second, third, and short, and put up a solid .296/.342/.385 line.

He had elbow surgery last fall and so he was unable to play in the field this spring. Before the injury his arm was fringe for shortstop and if it doesn't come back stronger he'll probably be limited to second base and left field. However, he has strong fundamentals and doesn't have too many holes.

Projecting as an above-average hitter with the potential for 10-12 home runs a year, the solid hitting middle-infield profile has been one the Giants have gone to consistently over the last two drafts and it tends to pay dividends. Still, given the number of picks they had, the Giants were well situated to take a bigger risk with this pick.


5 OF 8
Who the Giants took: Kyle Harrison, LHP, De La Salle HS (CA)
85th overall pick
Expected Signing Bonus: Well-above slot value
Future-Value Grade: 40
Grade: A-

A number of outlets rank Harrison as the second-best prospect in the Giants draft class. Law was the high man on Harrison, ranking him the 54th best prospect in the class. MLB.com had him at 61, while BA and FanGraphs were lower at 71 and 103 respectively. Regardless of the ranking though, given Harrison's commitment to UCLA, I'd expect him to command a bonus between $1.5MM-$2MM.

If indeed his price was that high, then the Giants indeed probably had to go under-slot with both Schmitt and Glowenke, but if he signs towards the lower end of that range then it might be reasonable to speculate the Giants had another high priced prospect in mind to pair with Harrison.

Harrison is a well-developed prep arm who's far enough ahead that his advanced age (closer to 19 than 18) doesn't concern me as much as I usually would be. His profile isn't too dissimilar from Trevor McDonald, an over-slot prep pitcher the Giants nabbed last year. Both players put on 15-20 lbs leading up to their senior season and showed the ability to hold low-90s velocity on a fastball with strong spin rates that play up.

Harrison has a good feel for pitching and a breaking ball that is inconsistent but flashes plus-break. His motion is a bit clunky and he tends to short arm his pitches, which generates inconsistent arm action, but that leaves some more ways to dream on his development. Generally, if guys can pitch they can make the necessary improvements and Harrison has that feel.

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Who the Giants took: Roderick (RJ) Dabovich, RHP, Arizona State
114th overall pick
Expected Signing Bonus: Slot value
Future-Value Grade: 35+
Grade: B+

Dabovich was picked right around where he was ranked on most big boards. A primary reliever out of the Arizona State bullpen over the past three seasons, Dabovich has flashed premium stuff and some scouts think it could play in a rotation.

He doesn't have the typical violent delivery you associate with big bullpen stuff and inconsistent control and so it's easy to dream him into a more premium role. Still, Dabovich's numbers leave room to question whether he's close to putting together the consistency to be successful in the rotation.

Dabovich was at his best in the Cape Cod League when he was a tweener working out of the bullpen and a bit as a starter. In his 19 innings on the Cape (across 7 games and 4 starts), Dabovich struck out 29 batters and walked just 5. He held the high strikeout rates in a small-sample size this spring, but his walk rate soared to 6.9 per nine innings, raising even further questions around his ability to throw strikes.

Dabovich has the best stuff of any pitcher the Giants drafted. His fastball sits between 93-95mph and has touched 98mph. His curveball is probably the best secondary pitch in his offering at the moment, but his slider has plus potential if he can work out some of its inconsistencies.

Dabovich is further along in his development than Giants pitcher Sam Coonrod was at this point and he's a bit more gifted tools wise, but he has a similar profile. He'll be an exciting project for the team's development team.

7 OF 8
Who the Giants took: Ryan Murphy, RHP, Le Moyne College
144th overall pick
Expected Signing Bonus: ???
Future-Value Grade: 30+
Grade: B-

Murphy attended Division II Le Moyne College and wasn't ranked by any of the large prospect coverage groups, but given slot for the selection is only $379,000 it wouldn't be out of the question to see him get slot. Although if I did have to make a guess, I'd lean towards a bit lower.

A young junior (won't turn 21 until October), Murphy has a very fun profile to build off. While he lacks premium velocity on his fastball and tends to sit 89-92mph with his heater, he's shown three different secondary offerings that flash average.

His curveball is his most advanced pitch that has sweeping 11-5 movement. He's shown consistently good control, never walking more than 2.4 batters per nine innings, and a good ability to generate strikeouts (albeit against weaker competition).

The New England Collegiate Baseball League is not on the same level as leagues like the Cape but tends to be filled with lower-tier D-1 talent. Last summer, at just 19 years old, Murphy was especially dominant. In 8 starts, Murphy threw 48 innings, struck out 55, walked 12, allowed 44 hits, and had a 2.25 ERA.

Still, relatively unknown, Murphy has the kind of track record that could make him the biggest surprise of the draft class. The key will be seeing how he handles the adjustment to far tougher competition than he has ever faced before.

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San Francisco Giants 2020 MLB Draft Final Grade: B-
The Giants took a unique approach to this draft. Normally, with two compensation picks and a large draft pool, we expect a team to target some high-risk high schoolers. Instead, the G-Men added just a single prep player and one who isn't considered to have premium upside. Although, it's worth pointing out that in one conversation with an industry source they described Harrison as "a potential first-round guy."

If you go by most big board rankings, the Giants draft looks like a series of reaches, although it's worth noting that I'd expect Keith Law to be quite high on it given his rankings of Swiney and Harrison.

This is just the second draft under the Zaidi/Holmes regime, but a couple of trends do seem to be emerging. While the team insisted the season getting cut short did not have any impact on their selections, they seemed to lean towards lower-risk collegiate prospects, including a pair of guys (Bailey and Swiney) from Holmes' wheelhouse.

My prospect preferences lean in a different direction than the team, but I have to admit your opinion probably depends on your opinion of Harrison. If you're convinced he's on par with guys like Tanner Witt or Carson Montgomery, it's easy to see what the Giants are doing.

Also, the value really doesn't matter now. Assuming all these players sign with the Giants, they are all legitimate prospects that can contribute at the big-league level.

Regardless of your opinion of the Bailey selection, he immediately ranks among the Giants top ten prospects. Swiney and Harrison probably rank among the teams top twenty prospects and Schmitt, one of my draft crushes for some time, ranks on the border of the system's top thirty prospects.

Murphy and Glowenke have the tools to be solid major leaguers and Dabovich, while full of risk, has a lot of tools to dream on."
 
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The next Ryan Howard!
YES! That would be AWESOME! We could really use a....

huh?

not THAT Ryan Howard?

You mean the OTHER Ryan Howard...

yeah...


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YES! That would be AWESOME! We could really use a....

huh?

not THAT Ryan Howard?

You mean the OTHER Ryan Howard...

yeah...


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Reading the synopsis that pachyderm posted makes the possibility of this guy making the big leagues sound slim. His arm strength was borderline for a shortstop, before his injury, and he could possibly be relegated to 2nd base and the corner outfield spots. And his slugging in college was .385. I guess his pop could develop. As a 2nd baseman, that may help him.
 

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From MLB Trade Rumors:
The Giants have no apparent limits when it comes to signing amateur free agents now that the draft is completed. John Shea of the San Francisco Chronicle provides a primer for this period of amateur free agents, writing, “The process starts at 6 a.m. Sunday, and the Giants will compete with the other 29 teams for the best available talent. But rather than outspending the others, all they can do is try to outsell them and offer appealing opportunities.” Given the Giants’ current position as a team looking to infuse as much young talent as possible, one would expect them to be aggressive in their attempts to add players from this pool. Obviously, more players than usual will be returning to college or committing to school as high school graduates, but given the volatility of the MLB draft under normal circumstances, it’s fair to expect a quality player or two to emerge from this pool of undrafted amateurs.
 

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The next Ryan Howard!
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The Giants have signed their 3rd round pick, De La Salle lefty Kyle Harrison, to a WAY overslot bonus of $2.5 million. The Giants must really like what they saw, and I'm sure it also took quite a bit extra to get him out of his UCLA commitment. This is 1st round money he's getting.

 

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The Giants have signed their 3rd round pick, De La Salle lefty Kyle Harrison, to a WAY overslot bonus of $2.5 million. The Giants must really like what they saw, and I'm sure it also took quite a bit extra to get him out of his UCLA commitment. This is 1st round money he's getting.

First Giants signee?
 

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By my reckoning, that gives us about 8 legit prospects now who could compete for top 100 lists. That is a nice turnaround...

Bart
Luciano
Ramos
Bailey
Hjely
Corry
Bishop
Wilson

I'd say a quick spitball ranking for me, in order:

Bart
Luciano
Ramos
Bailey
Bishop
Wilson
Matos
Corry
Canario
Webb
Hjelly
Kyle Harrison??

With Bart and Luciano clear top 20 guys, Ramos and Bailey top 50 guys, Bishop and Wilson top 100 guys, and then Matos, Corry and Canario fringe top 100 guys with a bit of luck.

Very nice turnaround indeed.
 

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Not sure, but first major news regarding it. They've scooped up a few NDFA's, but they don't count toward the bonus pool.
I have not heard anything about NDFAs yet. I used to use BBRef as my source for almost everything baseball related, but it is almost worthless now. Very sad for the loss of that website.
 

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Not sure, but first major news regarding it. They've scooped up a few NDFA's, but they don't count toward the bonus pool.
I found 2 NDFAs who have signed. Both were true seniors, and not much is known about them at this time (so they likely were not big gets)...

OF Carter Williams (North Carolina Central)
RHP Ty Weber (Illinois)
 

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Might as well put this here for some quick reference. I will try to repost this as more signings come in...

13. Patrick Bailey, Catcher, North Carolina State
49. Casey Schmitt, 3B/RHP, San Diego State
67. Nick Swiney, LHP, North Carolina State
68. Jimmy Glowenke, SS, Grand Canyon
85. Kyle Harrison, LHP, De La Salle HS (CA) (signed 6/15)
114. Roderick (RJ) Dabovich, RHP, Arizona State
144. Ryan Murphy, RHP, Le Moyne College

NDFA Carter Williams, OF, North Carolina Central (signed 6/15)
NDFA Ty Weber, RHP, Illinois (signed 6/15)
 

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From what I have read, I am “excited” about Bailey, Swiney and Harrison. It seems the other picks were more about clearing pool money for these guys.
 

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From what I have read, I am “excited” about Bailey, Swiney and Harrison. It seems the other picks were more about clearing pool money for these guys.

Yeah, I agree with this sentiment. I think there's enough to get excited about for Schmitt as well, but more as a unique player. The rest were cost-savings players to get Harrison.
 

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Who the Giants took: Casey Schmitt, 3B/RHP, San Diego State

49th overall pick
Expected Signing Bonus: Below-slot
Future-Value Grade: 40
Grade: C-

Schmitt was one of my 21 players to watch on Day 2 of the draft, but even I didn't expect to hear his name called this early. Schmitt seemed like a late 3rd-5th round prospect and given his flexibility it seemed likely he was a good candidate to go a bit higher for a below-slot deal and it seems the Giants to dove right in with that mindset. The slot for 49th pick is just over $1.5MM, but I'd expect Schmitt to sign for closer to $1MM.

Schmitt was a two-way contributor at San Diego State where he served as an everyday third baseman and high-leverage bullpen arm. He was announced as a third baseman, but the Giants PR team shared his information as a 3B/RHP. While the Giants have not developed a two-way guy yet, president of baseball operations Farhan Zaidi has seemed very open to the idea in the past.

From my view, he's a future 45 reliever and batter, which might allow him to consistently contribute 1.5-2.5 wins above replacement with a creative coaching staff and front office. His fastball sits from 92-94mph and has tremendous late-movement that allows it to play up and pair well with a potentially average curveball and splitter. As a hitter, Schmitt is an above-average third baseman with a plus arm and plus raw power. The hit tool is pretty underdeveloped and he has yet to tap into his power potential, but some scouts are quite high on his potential to develop at the plate with more time.

Schmitt tore his right meniscus before the start of this season, so while his production was more good than great, a scout could see the injury covering up greater potential production. While the value seemed like a reach, Schmitt has an intriguing skillset that allows you to project a pretty high floor while also dream on his tools a bit as well. The Giants have invested heavily in their player development and they'll be responsible for making the organization look smart with this pick.

Not to rag on this blog or writer, but what they described here is an awesome get for any team. An average 2-win player that helps your pitching staff and bench is excellent value, yet get's a C- grade? Kinda odd.

I'm not saying he's guaranteed to be this guy, but the reasoning just doesn't add up to me. They describe an amazing role player, but give a below average grade. Just odd reasoning.
 

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It seems that one thing teams are allowed to do with their NDFAs is to offer full scholarships. That could be a game changer moving forward. Maybe one thing orgs can do to appease the minor league players is to offer partial scholarships (transferable to family members??) as part of signing bonuses. Maybe they accrue 15k towards an interest bearing trust for every year in the org (or something similar). The trusts can have strings attached that they revert back to the org after 25 years or something if not used. Maybe some language where the funds could be transferred to an education IRA??

Whatever the details, this could be a way to attract kids out of HS while not forcing the kids to “go all in” on baseball and ruining their futures if they don’t hit the baseball lottery. I believe most colleges have very limited baseball scholarships to offer anyway, and are seldom full scholarships. Going pro could be a better option for them than going immediately to school.
 

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Darren Baker returns to school after not being drafted...

Undrafted Darren Baker decides to return to Cal instead of turning pro

"For the first time since 2007 and second time since 1968, no Cal baseball players were drafted. Stanford had no one drafted for the first time since 1971. Last year, eight players were drafted from Stanford and seven from Cal, including Andrew Vaughn (third overall to the White Sox).

“I had my mind made up for a while that I was going to return to school if I wasn’t picked,” said Baker, a second baseman who hit .306 as a sophomore with 21 steals (in 21 attempts) and was an All-Pac-12 defender in 2019, then hit .342 in the Cape Cod League.


It’s normal practice for big-league teams to contact players before and during a draft to determine the signing bonus they’re seeking, and Baker received calls during rounds three through five. Perhaps if he had made it clear he would have signed for significantly less than slot value, he would have had a better shot at getting drafted."


 
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